2014-05-14 GnuCash IRC logs
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10:22:16 <warlord> @op benoitg linas_ mikee_
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11:04:01 <linas> ola
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11:07:55 <gjanssens> hi linas
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11:19:27 <otyugh> hey. I'm really fresh user, and I'm wondering what it the right way to manage "I want monthly have "+1%" interest on the basis of that account". I do know how to do a monthly fix operation only. :s
11:19:59 <otyugh> (sorry for the broken english é_è)
11:21:10 <otyugh> the FAQ on interest didn't helped. It don't seem to me it's explaining what shall be done, only the "result".
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12:10:38 <otyugh> It is possible to set a transaction that would be not just a number but something like "currentaccount:CD/100*1.5" ?
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12:11:53 <warlord> otyugh: sort of... but we don't have any way to say "current account balance (as of date)".. So you need to manually enter the balance in
12:12:34 <warlord> But you could certainly enter in, e.g. 12,345.67 * .05 (for 5%)
12:12:45 <otyugh> arf
12:13:01 <warlord> woof?
12:13:04 <otyugh> I'm very sad now :'(
12:13:13 <otyugh> I was hoping it could be automatic
12:13:30 <warlord> Nope. It is a very frequently requested feature.. Patches always welcome
12:13:38 <otyugh> Maybe I should just use a libreoffice calc...
12:14:40 <otyugh> (I'm quite at my "hello world" in the dev side :o)
12:15:41 <otyugh> but well. That is very disapointing. I can not imagine entering by hand every month theses numbres :s
12:15:58 <warlord> What are these numbers you need to enter?
12:16:12 <otyugh> Well
12:16:42 <otyugh> Each month, add the interest of 3 banque accounts
12:17:29 <warlord> So you're talking 3 transactions a month....
12:17:36 <otyugh> yup !
12:17:56 <otyugh> ... :p
12:18:34 <otyugh> Well I though gnucash was a very mature software, than I find this quite unbelievable :s
12:18:55 <otyugh> but well.
12:20:56 <otyugh> well warlord
12:21:01 <otyugh> seem you were wrong
12:21:03 <otyugh> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Scheduled_Transactions
12:24:36 <otyugh> or not. you are right finally. Hell. x)
12:28:57 <warlord> SXes will compute interest of known values. Bank accounts generally are not known.
12:29:21 <warlord> SXes cannot handle principal pre-payment as a result of the lack of a "balance-as-of" function..
12:29:40 <warlord> That's not to say that gnucash cannot compute the balance-as-of... It's just not available in the register or SXes..
12:29:47 <warlord> Internally it most certainly can compute it.
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12:29:58 <otyugh> tsah
12:30:32 <warlord> The hard part that needs to be implemented is the UI to allow the user to *enter* the BalanceOf(Acct) in a user-friendly way but internally store it as a GUID.
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12:36:56 <otyugh> I'll try doing things by hand. But as I know myself, I know I will forget to update it at a good time, and the precision will be screwed up a bit. It's not undoable, but quite dirty and. Yeah. Well thanks for answers anyway x)
12:38:00 <lmat> otyugh: That's what reconciliation is for, my friend!
12:40:54 <otyugh> reconciliation is a check functionnality, not a way to adjust afterward, isn't it ? x)
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12:49:51 <warlord> otyugh: true, reconciliation is to make sure your entries match the bank entries every month. But IMHO that's generally a good time to enter in the (single!!!!) interest transaction for the month!
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14:29:02 <Simon> a loan repayment calculator would be nice to use - pity no loan I've ever had has calculated interest in a way I can replicate
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14:36:38 <warlord> Simon: hahaha
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14:39:09 <Simon> they do however calculate it in my favour compared to the quoted rate
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14:46:58 <jmd> Simon, you owe me $1000
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16:28:55 <rik> i am finding that gnucash is really messed up in Kubuntu 14.04. anybody else having troubles with it?
16:31:15 <rik> quickfill jumps to the end of first match after typing 1 letter. plus, backspace, etc are not working, and the interface is really sluggish, even just entering a date. this is the case even with a fresh data file... i am finding it completely unusable now. I have tried in plasma desktop, unity desktop, and ubuntu-gnome desktops, and am having issues in all
16:32:58 <warlord> rik: have you tried Fedora or a different distro?
16:33:50 <rik> well, wouldn't trying the other desktops be like trying other distros?
16:34:08 <rik> sorry, maybe i don't understand the diff..
16:35:00 <warlord> Different builds of gtk
16:35:06 <warlord> different themes
16:36:57 <rik> well, when i log in with the "ubuntu" (unity) desktop, it looks exactly as if I had installed ubuntu instead of kubuntu. so, is it really different?
16:41:25 <rik> or did you mean different disto, in the sense of non-ubuntu-family?
16:43:51 <warlord> Yes, it could still possibly be different. And it could still be using a broken theme
16:44:01 <warlord> and yes, I meant non-ubuntu family
16:45:07 <rik> so, have you used gnucash in the latest fedora without issue? what enviroment (gnome, kde, ...?)
16:45:32 <warlord> I use it onF18. Gnome desktop.
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23:18:24 <superuser> on linux mint 16 petra, "sudo make install" gives me an endless repeat of....
23:18:27 <superuser> /bin/bash ../../libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../../src/core-utils -I../../src/gnc-module -I../../src/engine -I../../src/backend/xml -I../../src/app-utils -I../../src -I../../src -I../../lib/libc -I../../src/libqof/qof -pthread -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-
23:18:27 <superuser> 1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/harfbuzz -pthread -I../../src/libqof/qof -I../../src/libqof/qof -I/usr/include/libxml2 -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"gnc.gui\" -Wdeclaration-after-statement -g -O2 -Wall -Wu
23:18:28 <superuser> nused -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wno-unused -MT gnc-cell-renderer-popup-entry.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/gnc-cell-renderer-popup-entry.Tpo -c -o gnc-cell-renderer-popup-entry.lo gnc-cell-renderer-popup-entry.c
23:18:31 <superuser> libtool: compile: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../../src/core-utils -I../../src/gnc-module -I../../src/engine -I../../src/backend/xml -I../../src/app-utils -I../../src -I../../src -I../../lib/libc -I../../src/libqof/qof -pthread -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/in
23:18:36 <superuser> clude/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/harfbuzz -pthread -I../../src/libqof/qof -I../../src/libqof/qof -I/usr/include/libxml2 -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"gnc.gui\" -Wdeclaration-after-statement -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-decl
23:18:41 <superuser> arations -Wno-unused -MT gnc-cell-renderer-popup-entry.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/gnc-cell-renderer