2014-05-08 GnuCash IRC logs
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04:22:58 <Piiteri> A while ago I made a custom report by modifying https://raw.github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/trunk/src/report/business-reports/taxinvoice.scm .
04:23:26 <Piiteri> After a recent upgrade it stopped working, complaining about not finding bussiness-utils
04:23:54 <Piiteri> After googling I read somewhere business-utils were merged into apps-utils
04:24:11 <Piiteri> so I simply removed the line asking to load business-utils
04:24:34 <Piiteri> => now the report shows up again in gnucash, but running it fails with an error
04:25:21 <Piiteri> it seems it is not finding any gncEntry... functions
04:26:25 <Piiteri> for instance: "ERROR: Unbound variable: gncEntryReturnDiscountValue"
04:26:43 <Piiteri> Any ideas?
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04:40:17 <Piiteri> to be more precise: gncEntryReturnValue, gncEntryDiscountValue and gncEntryReturnTaxValue are the ones causing problems
04:54:24 <gjanssens> Piiteri: these functions have been reworked for 2.6. There was quite some ambiguity in then regarding sign (positive/negative) and rounding depending on the context in which they were used
04:55:33 <gjanssens> Piiteri: so the are now replaced with separate sets of functions gncEntryDoc*, gncEntryBal*
04:56:03 <gjanssens> You can read some background on these functions in src/engine/gncEntry.h
04:56:44 <gjanssens> For your particular situation I would guess you will want to use the 'Doc' variants
04:58:35 <Piiteri> Thanks! I will take a further look and see about updating the wiki to mention these changes on the "custom eguile reports" page.
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05:20:26 <gjanssens> You're welcome and thanks for updating the wiki
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18:42:09 <sirnotes> Hello, is it possible to use the cash accounting method in gnucash 2.6.x?
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18:55:32 <warlord> sirnotes: sure... unless you also want to use Invoices
18:56:13 <sirnotes> Okay, but if you don't use invoices - you end up with Imbalance accounts right?
18:56:24 <sirnotes> btw thanks, warlord
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19:08:15 <sirnotes> bookkeeping question: If I am recording transactions from months past, what Exchange rate do I use to value the currency? Do I have to look up each day's rate?
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19:33:24 <warlord> sirnotes: no, imbalances only happen if you dont properly use double-entry accounting.
19:34:17 <warlord> sirnotes: you should enter the exchange rate from the transaction.. Generally that would be the purchase/sale price, or converting to local currency. I guess it depends: what exactly are you trying to do?/
19:37:02 <sirnotes> I started using gnucash yesterday. I am adding records from year start.
19:38:08 <warlord> okay... but do you really need to account in multiple currencies? For example, when I travel I just record everything in my home currency. I do the conversion directly (and record the foreign amount in the desc)
19:38:18 <sirnotes> Actual exchanges have their rates recorded in my records, but for example a paypal fee in USD, is not converted. So when I add it as an expense, I debit from the PayPal US account (asset) and credit the Expense account (cad)
19:39:19 <warlord> Hmm..
19:39:27 <warlord> why not create a USD Expense account?
19:40:43 <sirnotes> Hmm, maybe!
19:41:13 <sirnotes> I'm just trying to figure out this multiple currency thing. the government requires that everything is reported in CAD of course.
19:41:27 <sirnotes> because I freelance, and some clients pay USD, and some CAD
19:42:16 <warlord> Hmm, it might make sense to do the translation in real time (leaving it as a CAD expense account). But then, yes, you would need to find the historical exchange rates. Of course no one will ever know if you're off by a few cents
19:42:19 <sirnotes> Thanks for your insight. I appreciate it.
19:42:46 <warlord> storing it as USD means the total will be converted later, which might move over time.
19:44:29 <sirnotes> yeah, so I think I'd better just look up the rates.
19:44:36 <sirnotes> fortunately, there is not a lot of entries
19:44:53 <sirnotes> and once I'm caught up, it will use the live rate
19:45:31 <sirnotes> I suppose the alternative would be to just slap in Starting Equity and begin bookkeeping now.
19:45:56 <sirnotes> but i'd guess that wouldn't look very good to the taxman
19:49:05 <warlord> Well, the tax man probably doesn't look at your bookkeeping, per se, just your final year report
19:49:20 <sirnotes> that's true!
19:50:00 <sirnotes> maybe i'll just use a monthly average USD [close] price.. that'll make it a bit quicker, and a bit more accurate.
19:50:57 <warlord> i dont know your local rules..
19:51:02 <sirnotes> lol me either
19:51:25 <sirnotes> i guess i should seek out a local bookkeepr ;)
19:52:02 <sirnotes> thank you for all your input warlord!
19:55:05 <warlord> you're welcome
19:55:10 <warlord> good luck
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20:10:17 <warlord> i'm off. later.
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