2014-03-28 GnuCash IRC logs
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13:50:09 <alavarre> Good evening. Can anyone address the dichotomy in GnuCash TXF export between Form 6252 and the now correct IRS form 4562. The TXF.scm calls for Section 179 depreciation to be exported to Form 6252, while IRS instructions say to export to Form 4562. Googling doesn't help... TIA
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14:02:25 <warlord> Most likely the TXF hasn't been updated since the IRS change
14:24:32 <jralls> Hi, Andy!
14:25:59 <jralls> The guy who maintains the TXF, Alex Aycinena, doesn’t usually monitor IRC. Could you post that to the user list to remind him to check it?
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14:34:41 <jralls> gjanssens: Geert, apropos our discussion on devel about branching strategy, what do you think about cleaning out the old feature branches from > 5 years ago?
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16:11:02 <gjanssens> jralls: I looked at some of the oldest feature branches
16:11:31 <gjanssens> the issue I see is that these branches are not merged the git way
16:12:00 <gjanssens> so if we remove those branches we lose some detail on how certain features grew
16:12:30 <jralls> I think some of them might not be merged at all.
16:12:36 <gjanssens> I'll admit I haven't looked at any of them for as long as I've been contributing
16:12:50 <gjanssens> So probably we won't miss out on a lot
16:13:11 <jralls> Suppose we create a new branch “archive” and merge all of them into it?
16:13:20 <gjanssens> Particularly since we're about to radically rewrite the engine
16:13:40 <gjanssens> That sounds like a good idea
16:13:53 <jralls> OK. I’ll do that next week.
16:14:12 <alavarre> >The guy who maintains the TXF, Alex Aycinena, doesn’t usually monitor IRC. Could you post that to the user list to remind him to check it? > John hi. Yes, thanks. I've also posted to gnucash-users, but posted here in case there was a quick answer. Thanks again. No panic, still two weeks to go... PPPPPP... :-)
16:14:27 <gjanssens> If possible it would be ideal if the merge commit mentioned the real commit in history that was once used to merge the feature back in
16:14:46 <gjanssens> But that's likely to be too hard to be realistic
16:15:47 <gjanssens> As you say not all branches were merged and others may have been merged much later than the last commit on the branch
16:15:49 <jralls> Geert, yes, it would rewrite history and require everyone to rebase again.
16:16:24 <gjanssens> No, no, just a the commit hash mentioned in the merge commit into the archive branch
16:16:31 <jralls> Andy, OK. Most of what you’re concerned about should be taken care of by your tax software anyway.
16:16:54 <jralls> Though it might bitch about a mal-formed TXF. You could probably edit that by hand.
16:17:30 <jralls> Geert, huh? If you change one hash you change all of the hashes after it.
16:17:56 <alavarre> Roger that, just addressing the gnucash issue. Certainly not a crisis, (yet! :-) Quill and ink bottle always work... :-)
16:18:32 <gjanssens> If branch yyy was once merged into the trunk branch at commit zzz I was proposing to mention "originally merged in commit zzzz" in the merge message for branch yyy in the archive branch
16:18:57 <gjanssens> Not rewriting the history by really redoing the merge on the old commit zzz
16:19:26 <jralls> Oh, OK. There’s also notes, which can be attached to any commit without affecting its hash.
16:19:33 <gjanssens> Nor altering the commit message of commit zzz
16:19:46 <gjanssens> Ah I didn't know that
16:20:12 <gjanssens> But again, I don't know how much work it would be to figure out where/if each old feature branch was actually merged
16:20:16 <jralls> Anyway, there’s a more pressing problem: The Windows build has been broken since last week when Christian updated Gwenhywfar.
16:20:32 <gjanssens> You'd need to read the commit messages of all the old commits
16:20:37 <gjanssens> Probably not worth it
16:21:02 <jralls> And when I started to rebuild from scratch to check it, ActivePerl puked because they’ve pulled the free 5.14.
16:21:31 <jralls> I’d just go to 5.16 if it wasn’t for the problems with that version and F::Q.
16:21:45 <jralls> How hard would it be to use Strawberry?
16:22:00 <gjanssens> I haven't checked in a while
16:22:27 <gjanssens> In theory the Install-FQ script will install Strawberry automatically if no perl is found
16:22:44 <gjanssens> But I read some issues on the list with installing the lates F::Q version
16:22:45 <jralls> No, I mean for intltool in the build.
16:23:15 <gjanssens> Oh right. I'd expect it to work
16:23:25 <gjanssens> Intltool is not very demanding
16:23:51 <gjanssens> It just needs perl >= 5.8
16:24:09 <gjanssens> But ActivePerl 5.16 should work for building gnucash as well
16:24:26 <gjanssens> It's only for F::Q while running gnucash that seems to cause issues
16:24:54 <gjanssens> If you can't get it working tonight I may have some time tomorrow to look into it
16:25:28 <jralls> I’m actually worried about it messing up my installation for testing FQ, but I can probably hide it with a bit of work. I’ll just change it to A/S 5.16 for now, then.
16:27:01 <gjanssens> Ok
16:28:14 <gjanssens> JFYI I'll be out of town on Sunday
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16:28:42 <gjanssens> If something goes wonky with the release build I won't be able to look into it until Sunday evening or Monday morning
16:30:28 <jralls> OK. That’s part of why I’m rebuilding from scratch now. Sunday’s too late anyway.
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16:31:33 <jralls> BTW, there’s no log for today’s trunk build. It wouldn’t have worked anyway, but it seems either not to have started or hung up.
16:40:04 <gjanssens> Hmm, I can't even log in to the build server. I'm getting a "LoginNeededException: please log in" error message
16:40:12 <gjanssens> warlord ? ^
16:54:28 <warlord> gjanssens: sorry, was out to lunch. I'm back now.
16:54:44 <jralls> Interesting. Strawberry perl adds it’s own gcc to the path which causes trouble. I had to remove it from the path in order for libtool to install correctly. Guess we can’t use that in the build script!
16:55:13 <gjanssens> jralls: hmm, I had forgotten about that
16:55:26 <jralls> warlord: Late lunch or are you in SF?
16:55:27 <gjanssens> But my work-in-progress windows branch should fix this
16:55:35 <warlord> I'm in SF
16:55:52 * jralls waves
16:56:17 <gjanssens> The branch works with a more recent mingw/msys setup which comes with a more recent version of perl by itself
16:56:25 * warlord waves back
16:56:32 <gjanssens> No more need to install Active/Strawberry perl in either
16:56:51 <gjanssens> s/in either/on that branch/
16:56:54 <warlord> jralls: I knew I didn't have any free time this trip which is why I didn't let you know. I'll have more time next trip (late April or early May)
16:57:46 <warlord> gjanssens: I'm having issues just ssh'ing to vmhost right now from here. The machine pings, and clearly the VMs are up because gncbot is here.
16:57:47 <jralls> It’s OK. I have enough trouble keeping track of my own sked. ;-).
16:58:07 <warlord> *giggles*
16:59:30 <jralls> I’m in Richmond VA May 4-11 for a genealogy conference, so I might miss you on the next trip, too, depending on when you come out.
16:59:54 <warlord> It would either be that week or the week before.
17:00:06 <jralls> So even odds. ;-)
17:05:27 <warlord> yep
17:05:43 <warlord> ahh, finally got a shell on vmhost
17:07:26 <warlord> gjanssens: Can you try to force-reload your page?
17:08:11 <gjanssens> warlord: yep, that's working
17:09:05 <gjanssens> someone started a disk defragmentation program...
17:09:24 <gjanssens> but other than that there are no traces of a build that got stuck
17:09:54 <gjanssens> I'm out of time for tonight but I'll try to look at it tomorrow
17:10:30 <warlord> gjanssens: are you in now?
17:10:47 <warlord> I did a disk defrag a couple weeks ago.. Are you saying it is still running?
17:11:09 <gjanssens> I'm in yes
17:11:28 <gjanssens> No the defrag has stopped but the window's still open
17:11:43 <gjanssens> "Some files could not be defragmented" yadayada
17:11:47 <gjanssens> I'll close it
17:11:51 <warlord> Yeah, I didn't log in again to close it.
17:12:39 <gjanssens> np it's done
17:12:58 <warlord> Thanks
17:16:39 <gjanssens> I'm off for tonight
17:16:44 <gjanssens> See you later
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17:26:19 <warlord> Oh, so what is (was?) the status of the build??
17:27:07 <jralls> It appears from here that it never started. Geert ran out of time before he could figure out why.
17:27:48 <jralls> But it’s been broken since the 6th when Christian upgraded Gwen.
17:32:10 <warlord> Have there been any build logs since the 6th?
17:32:33 <jralls> Yes, every day until today.
17:34:20 <warlord> Hmm.
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