2014-03-03 GnuCash IRC logs
00:32:59 *** zanshin has quit IRC
00:41:26 *** Kael has joined #gnucash
00:44:09 <Kael> Hi, I have a question. I started running into the "There was an error parsing the file" error this morning. I googled it, and everyone seems to talk about the "Opening Balances" bug, but I'm using gnucash on mac, and after checking my data file, it doesn't seem like any of the opening balance transactions are missing the data posted tag. Does anyone know of any similar bugs that might cause the error?
00:57:38 *** Kael has quit IRC
01:11:40 *** aqua_ has quit IRC
01:13:57 *** MechtiIde has joined #gnucash
01:43:13 *** StuM has quit IRC
01:43:44 *** StuM has joined #gnucash
02:09:47 *** MechtiIde has quit IRC
02:20:09 *** TradeBorG117 has joined #gnucash
02:21:27 *** uXus has quit IRC
02:24:01 *** uXus has joined #gnucash
03:14:22 *** jmd has joined #gnucash
03:18:19 *** MechtiIde has joined #gnucash
03:22:25 *** jmd has quit IRC
03:42:02 *** wol has joined #gnucash
03:51:01 <mikee-afk> @op
03:51:01 <gncbot> mikee-afk: Error: You don't have the #gnucash,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
03:51:11 <mikee-afk> @op
03:51:11 *** mikee-afk is now known as mikee
03:51:12 *** gncbot sets mode: +o mikee
03:51:15 *** mikee is now known as mikee-afk
03:51:27 *** mikee-afk is now known as mikee
04:17:40 *** warlord has joined #gnucash
04:17:41 *** gncbot sets mode: +o warlord
04:59:59 *** StuM has quit IRC
05:00:40 *** StuM has joined #gnucash
05:32:14 *** fell has joined #gnucash
05:32:15 *** gncbot sets mode: +o fell
06:08:13 *** StuM has quit IRC
06:17:59 *** mentalstring has joined #gnucash
06:19:14 <mentalstring> hi everyone. there seems to be a problem with the OSX .dmg package with the latest release (2.6.2) - it's missing on sourceforge. anyone who can look into this?
06:31:02 <warlord> mentalstring: if it's missing then it may not yet be available. It's 3:30am where jralls is, so I suspect he's sleeping and wont be able to do anything for at least another 5 hours.
06:32:46 <mentalstring> just wanted to drop the note since the announcement mailing-list did mention the packages were available - i don't want to wake up anyone :)
06:33:41 <mentalstring> warlord: will he see this logs or should i shoot an email somewhere?
06:35:03 <warlord> @tell jralls mentalstring can't find the OSX DMG for 2.6.2 on SF. Can you take a look?
06:35:03 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
06:35:28 <warlord> mentalstring: done, if he doesn't see the log when he next gets here then he'll see this message when he next does.
06:35:45 <mentalstring> warlord: oh, cool! thanks
06:36:19 <mentalstring> message delivered - back to work. have a good one
06:37:19 <warlord> Thanks. Later.
06:37:24 <warlord> (time for lunch for me)
06:37:43 <warlord> BIAB
06:37:50 *** warlord has quit IRC
06:38:06 *** mentalstring has quit IRC
06:38:35 *** warlord has joined #gnucash
06:38:35 *** gncbot sets mode: +o warlord
06:39:13 *** warlord has quit IRC
07:03:09 *** Jimraehl1 has joined #gnucash
07:08:29 *** Jimraehl1 has quit IRC
07:33:52 *** wol has quit IRC
07:43:08 *** wol has joined #gnucash
07:43:10 *** StuM has joined #gnucash
07:43:14 *** wol has quit IRC
08:00:09 *** himaxx has joined #gnucash
08:06:12 *** himaxx has quit IRC
08:11:26 *** warlord has joined #gnucash
08:11:26 *** gncbot sets mode: +o warlord
08:37:32 *** aqua___ has joined #gnucash
08:43:21 *** warlord has quit IRC
08:43:21 *** StuM has quit IRC
08:43:21 *** wizkid239 has quit IRC
08:43:21 *** isaacd has quit IRC
08:43:21 *** soa2ii has quit IRC
08:43:21 *** GabrieleV has quit IRC
08:43:21 *** stephan48 has quit IRC
08:43:21 *** kim27 has quit IRC
08:48:54 *** warlord has joined #gnucash
08:48:54 *** wizkid239 has joined #gnucash
08:48:54 *** isaacd has joined #gnucash
08:48:54 *** soa2ii has joined #gnucash
08:48:54 *** GabrieleV has joined #gnucash
08:48:54 *** kim27 has joined #gnucash
08:48:54 *** stephan48 has joined #gnucash
08:48:54 *** irc.acc.umu.se sets mode: +o warlord
08:48:54 *** gncbot sets mode: +o warlord
08:48:57 *** benoitg has quit IRC
08:50:03 *** aqua___ has quit IRC
08:52:11 *** StuM has joined #gnucash
08:57:06 *** MechtiIde has quit IRC
09:02:18 *** StuM has quit IRC
09:06:01 *** StuM has joined #gnucash
09:08:03 *** StuM has quit IRC
09:08:41 *** StuM has joined #gnucash
09:20:44 *** wol has joined #gnucash
09:21:36 *** benoitg has joined #gnucash
09:29:44 *** Coderjoe has joined #gnucash
09:31:36 <Coderjoe> I'm having a weird issue. I can't seem to enter transactions with a date of 03/03/2014. It keeps changing it to 03/02/2014 (M/D/Y. 2.6.1 on Win7)
09:33:02 <Coderjoe> it also does it when I try to change the date of an existing transaction
09:36:15 *** mkultra329 has joined #gnucash
09:37:40 <mkultra329> Is there a way to confirm if a bug has been reported? I'm noticing two issues- one may be a setting somewhere that I can't figure out and the other is most certainly a bug.
09:39:12 <mkultra329> The setting that I can't figure out (and maybe it is a bug) is what appears to be a timezone setting maybe? It is currently 3/3/2014 but I can't enter a transaction for this date. It is resetting to 3/2/2014 when I try to set it to 3/3/. Any ideas?
09:40:03 <Coderjoe> I'm having that exact same issue
09:40:51 <mkultra329> crapalap.
09:41:35 <mkultra329> It was working yesterday.
09:41:47 <mkultra329> ...and I'm on the same version.
09:45:08 *** aqua___ has joined #gnucash
09:46:25 *** aqua___ has quit IRC
09:48:27 *** MechtiIde has joined #gnucash
09:50:04 *** lmat has joined #gnucash
09:52:15 <mkultra329> I'm running 2.6.1. I just noticed that 2.6.2 is out so I'm going upgrade and see if that fixes it.
09:59:34 <mkultra329> That fixed the problem.
10:01:35 <warlord> Coderjoe: Upgrade to 2.6.2
10:02:19 <warlord> The issue is a DST bug which was fixed in 2.6.2
10:03:12 <warlord> (I dont know the bug# offhand)
10:03:32 <mkultra329> just verified that. And you may know, but in 2.6.1 whenever I added another account it would attempt to add it twice and on the 2nd add it would say it already exists. Definitely a bug.
10:07:01 <mkultra329> relatively easy workaround, though. Just cancel on the 2nd account add attempt.
10:16:17 *** warlord has quit IRC
10:28:08 <Coderjoe> Doh. Thanks, warlord. I should have noticed there was a newer version.
10:30:07 *** warlord has joined #gnucash
10:30:08 *** gncbot sets mode: +o warlord
10:30:38 <warlord> mkultra329: I'm not sure what you mean by "it would attempt to add it twice"...
10:35:53 *** ErKa has joined #gnucash
10:37:50 <mkultra329> tab over to expenses:whatever and hit tab to add category. Prompted: "The account expenses:whatever does not exists. would you like to create it?". click yes. Pompted once again: "The account expenses:whatever does not exists. would you like to create it?". click yes. New Account dialog presented. Click ok. New Account dialog presented once again. Click ok. dialog: "There is already an account with that name". (of course there is, I just created in this
10:43:29 <warlord> Your post ended at " I just created in this"
10:43:38 <warlord> But okay, you're talking about from the register..
10:43:43 <warlord> That does sound like a bug..
10:44:19 <mkultra329> (the rest:)(of course there is, I just created in this task sequence). Click the only button, "close." this takes me back to the new account dialog (the 2nd one that was presented). click cancel. proceed as usual.
10:44:52 <mkultra329> attempting to add an account and it goes through 2 add account sequences? That isn't a bug?
10:45:06 <warlord> It sounds like what used to be a modal dialog is no longer modal,
10:45:21 <warlord> I said "it *does* sounds like a bug"
10:45:25 <mkultra329> ahhh..
10:45:29 <mkultra329> my bad, lol.
10:46:03 <warlord> Please file a bug report?
10:47:14 <mkultra329> I would be happy to. I'm new to this- first day in gnucash irc and interested in working with the project but never have as of yet. I can google for it unless you have a link for me
10:48:23 <mkultra329> I got it. Bugzilla, I'll create an account.
10:54:26 <warlord> Ah, yeah. http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Bugzilla
11:05:22 *** MechtiIde has quit IRC
11:05:59 <mkultra329> Thank you. Done. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725592
11:06:47 <warlord> thanks.
11:07:08 *** O01eg has joined #gnucash
11:10:07 *** mkultra3291 has joined #gnucash
11:16:34 *** mkultra329 has quit IRC
11:20:42 *** StuM has quit IRC
11:39:24 *** wol has quit IRC
11:39:59 *** jralls has joined #gnucash
11:39:59 *** gncbot sets mode: +o jralls
11:53:25 <warlord> hey jralls
11:53:35 <jralls> Yessir!
11:53:35 <gncbot> jralls: Sent 5 hours and 18 minutes ago: <warlord> mentalstring can't find the OSX DMG for 2.6.2 on SF. Can you take a look?
11:53:47 <warlord> good afternoon
11:54:23 <jralls> SF was having a problem with serving just-uploaded files. Everything seems to be available now.
11:54:45 <warlord> okay.
11:54:46 <jralls> Except the PPC dmg, which I'm just finishing up and will upload in a few minutes.
11:55:08 <warlord> Are there any PPC machines newer than, oh 2010?
11:55:27 <jralls> More like 2006 IIRC.
11:56:04 <warlord> Do people still use PPC?
11:56:15 <warlord> (Is it worth your time to continue supporting it?)
11:57:52 <jralls> A few still use it. It's not a lot of added active time to build.
11:58:34 <jralls> The 2.6.1 PPC build had 103 downloads last week. I guess it's more than just a few.
12:05:04 <jralls> That said, if we follow cstim's advice to use C++11 on 2.7, I'll either have to drop PPC support or figure out how to get GCC 4.6 or later to build on it.
12:08:20 *** MechtiIde has joined #gnucash
12:09:56 <warlord> Okay..
12:10:07 <warlord> If you dont mind building it then I'm not going to push to drop it.
12:11:11 <warlord> I wonder if we should change the build scripts to build tag builds before the nightly/weekly builds instead of after?
12:12:35 <jralls> That would help a bit. Was code doing something else yesterday that slowed down the build? 14.5 hrs is almost a 50% slowdown from the last time.
12:13:38 <warlord> I honestly don't know. I wasn't around to check what it was doing and don't have load-average measurements.
12:14:47 <jralls> Oh well.
12:16:51 <warlord> Sorry. But we could change packaging/win32/daily_build.bat
12:18:30 <warlord> The trunk build finished at Mar 2 05:30. 2.6.2 finished at Mar 2 20:12
12:18:45 <warlord> It's almost as if the extra CPU I added to the VM is slowing the system down instead of speeding it up!
12:21:11 <jralls> Actually, 2.6.1 also took about 14 hours. 2.6.0 took only 9.5. IIRC you did the upgrade in December, before 2.6.0.
12:21:46 *** jmd has joined #gnucash
12:22:58 *** Krzysiek_K has joined #gnucash
12:25:19 <warlord> Maybe the system needs a Defrag?
12:25:43 <Coderjoe> did you go from 1 to 2 cpus?
12:26:07 <warlord> Coderjoe: Yes, I reconfigured the VM to add RAM and an extra CPU
12:26:56 <jralls> How full is the disk?
12:27:22 <Coderjoe> My first guess would be disk IO contention between compiler instances.
12:28:48 <warlord> jralls: I dont know. I haven't logged in.
12:28:53 <Coderjoe> (my release build vm at work only has 1 CPU because some version of MSVS was tripping over itself and failing. I no longer remember what version, though)
12:29:14 <Coderjoe> (it was an intermittant failure, though)
12:29:22 <warlord> Coderjoe: this is gcc, not MSVS.. But I could drop the 2nd CPU
12:29:28 <warlord> (and leave the RAM)
12:29:30 <Coderjoe> oh
12:29:32 <warlord> and see if it improves the situation
12:30:06 <Coderjoe> any metrics on ram/cachemem usage?
12:30:06 <jralls> We could also pass -j1 to make, which would stop it trying to use both cores.
12:30:53 <warlord> Coderjoe: nothing remote; I'd have to do some contortions to get to the console right now.
12:35:01 *** mkultra3291 has left #gnucash
12:44:46 * warlord is trying to get to the console right now
12:50:29 *** jmd` has joined #gnucash
12:52:18 <warlord> Clearly having network issues between me and the server; took a few times to get to the admin system, and the console isn't connecting (or, rather, isn't actually drawing)
12:52:56 <warlord> .... and that would be because I went to the wrong VM. OOPS. Let me try win32, not code.
12:54:13 *** jmd` has quit IRC
12:56:00 <warlord> Okay, 18G free.
12:56:31 <warlord> (that's about 30% free)
12:56:34 *** jmd` has joined #gnucash
12:57:16 <warlord> (37% technically, according to the defrag program
12:57:18 <warlord> )
12:58:51 <warlord> And it says it needs defrag, so... running that now.
12:59:43 *** ErKa has quit IRC
12:59:44 <jralls> I don't think defraying is likely to make much of a difference on compilation speed.
13:00:34 <warlord> It might in terms of disk I/O
13:00:42 <jralls> I wonder if network speed might play a part, though. Most of Gnome is downloaded instead of built.
13:00:56 <warlord> It's only downloaded once.
13:01:12 <warlord> It should be re-using the pre-downloaded deps from the nightly build
13:01:25 <jralls> OK.
13:02:09 <warlord> I have found that a defrag does help... some.
13:03:33 <warlord> There are a bunch of fragmented files on the disk.
13:05:45 *** benoitg has quit IRC
13:06:28 <warlord> okay, going to let it run
13:09:10 *** aqua___ has joined #gnucash
13:11:00 *** jmd` has quit IRC
13:16:05 *** jmd` has joined #gnucash
13:17:05 *** fell_ has joined #gnucash
13:17:06 *** gncbot sets mode: +o fell_
13:25:38 *** jmd` has quit IRC
13:26:29 *** fell has quit IRC
13:33:28 *** hhn10 has joined #gnucash
13:36:09 *** jmd` has joined #gnucash
13:36:16 *** ErKa has joined #gnucash
14:07:20 *** jmd` has quit IRC
14:14:53 *** aqua___ has quit IRC
14:30:46 *** jmd has quit IRC
14:52:20 *** warlord has quit IRC
15:12:34 *** MechtiIde has quit IRC
15:26:50 *** benoitg has joined #gnucash
15:52:13 *** danley has joined #gnucash
15:53:54 <danley> Hi, I've testest GnuCash android. and it seems to work fine except when I import the OFX file the account names are so strange that I can't assign them anywhere. Is there anything I'm doing wrong?
15:54:46 <danley> Also I was unable to import my account structure to the mobile app. I tried with the actual gnucash file and the export -> account structure menu option. both files couldn't be imported
15:55:41 <jralls> The GnuCash for Android guy isn't here. Ask about it on the mailing list.
15:56:19 <danley> GnuCash 2.6.2 and mobile app version 1.3.1
15:57:12 *** TradeBorG117 has quit IRC
15:57:22 <danley> jralls: thanks. which one of the mailing lists do you think would be best?
16:08:01 <jralls> gnucash-user@gnucash.org.
16:13:39 *** O01eg has quit IRC
16:21:50 *** O01eg has joined #gnucash
16:38:02 *** aqua___ has joined #gnucash
16:53:54 *** danley has quit IRC
17:04:35 *** jralls has quit IRC
17:16:47 *** jralls has joined #gnucash
17:16:47 *** gncbot sets mode: +o jralls
17:23:57 *** benoitg has quit IRC
17:30:56 *** [^DraCuLin^] has joined #gnucash
17:31:56 *** [^DraCuLin^] has quit IRC
17:40:33 *** O01eg has quit IRC
17:40:33 *** ErKa has quit IRC
17:40:33 *** lmat has quit IRC
17:40:33 *** stephan48 has quit IRC
17:40:33 *** kim27 has quit IRC
17:40:33 *** soa2ii has quit IRC
17:40:33 *** isaacd has quit IRC
17:40:33 *** wizkid239 has quit IRC
17:40:33 *** GabrieleV has quit IRC
17:40:35 *** stephan48 has joined #gnucash
17:40:36 *** lmat has joined #gnucash
17:40:36 *** wizkid238 has joined #gnucash
17:40:54 *** isaacd has joined #gnucash
17:41:04 *** soa2ii has joined #gnucash
17:41:04 *** GabrieleV has joined #gnucash
17:41:19 *** O01eg has joined #gnucash
17:41:26 *** kim27 has joined #gnucash
17:41:26 *** ErKa has joined #gnucash
17:56:17 *** sjc has joined #gnucash
18:00:02 *** sjc has quit IRC
18:16:55 *** StuM has joined #gnucash
18:29:57 *** Krzysiek_K has left #gnucash
18:35:08 *** ErKa has quit IRC
19:12:22 *** ErKa has joined #gnucash
19:54:51 *** uhopfer has joined #gnucash
20:14:02 *** uhopfer has quit IRC
20:19:08 *** jralls has quit IRC
20:41:32 *** Sleep has joined #gnucash
20:41:39 <Sleep> Accounting Question: For an LLC which passes income directly to members, which accounts should be used?
21:11:48 *** Sleep has quit IRC
22:44:04 *** Sleep has joined #gnucash
23:46:54 *** O01eg has quit IRC