2013-08-31 GnuCash IRC logs
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11:54:00 <ivoq> hi
11:54:09 <ivoq> I am doing a gnucash translation to Estonian
11:54:31 <ivoq> but while trying to test my started translation, my translation file is not being used
11:55:06 <ivoq> I followed the steps from http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Translation and started gnucash with LANG=et variable
11:56:07 <ivoq> (gnucash is installed from source to my home directory, so I executed LANG=et ~/Prog/local/gnucash/bin/gnucash)
11:57:19 <ivoq> what could be the cause? do I need to copy the et.mo to /usr/share/locales as I have also installed gnucash from my package manager
11:57:25 <ivoq> I am using Ubuntu 12.10
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12:14:09 <ivoq> got it working, I also set: LANG=et_EE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=et LC_ALL=et_EE.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=et_EE.UTF-8
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13:40:43 <ogee> Has anyone gotten online banking set up for BBVA Compass bank?
13:52:39 <warlord> ivoq: you shouldn't need the LC_MESSAGES, but LANG and LANGUAGE are probably needed on your platform.
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13:52:49 <warlord> ogee: You might try asking on gnucash-user mailing list.
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13:56:08 <busnessman> I really wanna share this for those who wants to work at home..thx http://adf.ly/UuvmJ
13:56:11 <ogee> thanks warlord
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14:00:06 <warlord> Damn spammers
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17:27:18 <teolicy> Hi. I'm looking for a personal finance software, and am considering gnucash. I'm generally computer literate (and accounting moron :), and couldn't figure out how to use it for my needs by 'just playing with it' after importing a file from my bank (Barclays / UK). Is there a quick reference manual or tutorial?
17:27:41 <teolicy> (I found the full documentation set, but I'm not sure I'd like to read ~50 pages just to decide if gnucash is for me)
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17:32:43 <warlord> teolicy_: gnucash is a full double-entry accounting package. It requires at least a BASIC understanding of introductory accounting principles, but doesn't require an accounting degree to use.
17:32:57 <warlord> Do you have a specific question?
17:33:38 <teolicy_> warlord, can you recommend an alternative, preferably free one, for single entry accounting (which I presume will be simpler; I just read about the description of single vs double entry accounting)?
17:34:18 <warlord> Sorry, no clue.
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17:34:32 <warlord> But trust me, you want double-entry
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17:34:48 <warlord> it makes life much better when you want to balance your spending.
17:36:14 <teolicy_> warlord, I recently moved to the UK. I only have a check and savings account here, I earn a salary and spend cash. All I want (at this stage) is a chart of how much I spend each month, and an easy way to label my various debit card purchases, so I could categorise my spending on food/energy/comm./etc
17:36:21 <warlord> In short: a transaction records the movement of value from one place to another. The sources of value (credits) and targets (debits) must balance.
17:37:10 <teolicy_> This isn't quite a "question" per se, but I found this (seemingly simple) need difficult to fulfil with ~30 minutes in GNU cash.
17:37:14 <teolicy_> (hence considering alternatives)
17:37:58 <warlord> It's simple to fill.. Your salary is a transaction from Income -> Bank. You pull ATM from Bank -> Cash. You spend it from Cash -> Expense
17:38:34 <warlord> If you don't care about whether you spend your money on rent v. food v. beer then you don't need separate expense accounts.
17:39:31 <teolicy_> But then "Income" and "Expense" will be unbalanced, I always "withdraw" from Income and always "deposit" to Expense.
17:39:43 <teolicy_> Is that conceptually how things should be?
17:40:25 <warlord> You only "balance" Asset and Liability accounts. Income and Expense accounts are temporary equity and don't get "balanced"
17:40:36 <warlord> Income is where money comes from (and will always increase)
17:40:50 <warlord> Expense is where money goes to (and will always "decrease")
17:41:09 <warlord> c.f http://gnucash.org/docs/v2.4/C/gnucash-guide/chapter_cbook.html
17:41:24 <teolicy_> Thanks warlord, I'll look into this further.
17:42:20 <warlord> seriously, read the Tutorial.. It's REALLY good.
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17:42:59 <teolicy_> I probably will, thanks.
17:43:00 <teolicy_> (one alternative is to just write a Python program to answer this question for me; I know it's the "wrong" solution, but I know more Python than gnucash :)
17:43:14 <warlord> gnucash has python bindings ;)
17:44:51 <teolicy_> For some reason my ADSL is acting up tonight, I need to sort this and will disconnect.
17:44:58 <teolicy_> Thanks for your advice warlord, see you later!
17:45:09 <warlord> Good luck
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