2013-08-14 GnuCash IRC logs

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04:05:53 <nano> how can i manage stock in gnucash? warlord
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08:40:37 <warlord> .
08:42:13 <warlord> @tell nano Do you mean stock as in intentory or stock as in stock market? If the former, gnucash does not have inventory. If the latter, stock management is in the documentation.
08:42:13 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
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09:54:35 <Mario> I tried to convert CSV to QIF but seems impossible
09:54:35 <gncbot> Mario: Sent 18 hours and 9 minutes ago: <warlord> your database wont handle multi-split transactions.. But yes, you could easily create a QIF file and import that into gnucash.
09:54:51 <Mario> Every QIF file can be addressed to one account
09:55:46 <Mario> So I should create a QIF file for every account
09:56:51 <Mario> If my bank sends me a CSV with deposits and withdrawals to my bank account, creating a QIF could make sense, because all the transactions credit or debit the same account (the bank account)
09:57:22 <Mario> The main problem here is that I'd like to import data from Daily Money, which is a very useful Android app
09:58:18 <Mario> Also, I'd like to import data from my previous database, made by me, which records for every transaction the amount, the account to be debited and the account to be credited
09:59:16 <Mario> I could make a python script to manage the conversion from CSV to a format which GnuCash can understand, but I'm not sure which format to convert to
10:00:40 <Mario> And I think I'm not the first one who wants to import transactions which have both debit and credit accounts specified for every record, instead of a plus/minus or deposit/withdrawal flag and a single account name for every record
10:01:13 <Mario> Daily Money exports data in the same format as my previous database
10:01:40 <Mario> date, amount (positive and not null), debit account, credit account, note
10:02:32 <Mario> But I'd love to use GnuCash instead of keeping my data all on the phone
10:03:08 <Mario> It would be tedious to copy data by hand every month, from Daily Money to GnuCash
10:03:49 <Mario> And I need a mobile app too, to decide whether to make or not an expense, based on the current balance of accounts
10:04:23 <Mario> I've tried GnuCash for Android, but it crashes while importing my account tree, and seems to me a very unstable application, for now
10:04:48 <Mario> I like very much the idea of having a mobile version of GnuCash
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11:18:00 <nano> hey warlord
11:18:00 <gncbot> nano: Sent 2 hours and 35 minutes ago: <warlord> Do you mean stock as in intentory or stock as in stock market? If the former, gnucash does not have inventory. If the latter, stock management is in the documentation.
11:18:31 <nano> ya inventory management
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15:23:26 <Ahmuck> hi. i have a question on how to handle an account
15:24:13 <Ahmuck> if I borrow 3,000,000 on buisness account, do i set that borrowed ammount in liablities. i am getting an "imbalnce"
15:24:18 <Ahmuck> how do i balance?
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17:15:22 <maurer> If I have two accounts, and I want one of them to effectively lend money to another, how would I record this?
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20:38:43 <warlord> maurer: transfer from one account to the other.
20:41:34 <maurer> warlord: Then where is the fact that the account expects to be paid back stored?
20:42:49 <warlord> What do you mean? Perhaps you need to give me a more explicit example of what you're trying to do.
20:44:12 <maurer> warlord: I have two separate accounts for keeping track of money in different projects
20:44:33 <maurer> However, due to liquidity issues, one project needs a temporary loan from the other project so that it can buy a few things
20:45:35 <warlord> maurer: please define what you mean by "account" in this context... I'm using the GnuCash definition of Account which might not be what you mean, so please be more explicit
20:47:13 <maurer> In real life, they are just two separated groups of assets. Currently I have these two groups each represented by a gnucash account
20:48:11 <maurer> My goal is to send money from account A to account B in gnucash, with some sort of indication of the fact that account B is obligated to send the same amount back to A in the future
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20:48:40 <warlord> IANAA but I would ask you: how would you account for that using Pen&Paper?
20:50:01 <warlord> The issue here is that you are transfering money between two accounts that you own, so it's a promise to yourself to transfer it back. In general there is no way to account for that.. If it was giving money to/from someone ELSE, then you could set up another account (asset or liability depending on the direction of the loan)
20:50:10 <warlord> But in this case..... Set up an SX to remind yourself?
20:50:18 <maurer> SX?
20:50:44 <warlord> I can't think of a good way to account for "I transfered from Bank A to Bank B -- remind me to transfer it back"
20:50:59 <maurer> What's an SX?
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20:51:17 <warlord> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_What_is_the_.22SX.22_thing_I_see_on_the_lists_and_IRC_periodically.3F
20:51:43 <maurer> Ah.
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