2013-07-09 GnuCash IRC logs
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16:33:16 <gflohr> I have my vendor's (gentoo) gnucash 2.4.11 installed with prefix /usr. when I compile gnucash 2.5.x from git, configure it with the default prefix /usr/local, and install it, I can run neither version because the shared libs are taken from both installations, and the dynamic linker fails to resolve symbols. If I run gnucash with LD_LIBRARY_PATH=[configured_prefix]:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH, both versions run correctly.
16:33:25 <gflohr> btw, my LD_LIBRARY_PATH is empty by default
16:33:54 <gflohr> should I bother writing a detailled bug report or will you refuse to fix that anyway? ;)
16:34:31 <warlord> gflohr: we will refuse to fix it.
16:34:43 <warlord> configure with --prefix=/opt/gnucash and then install into there.
16:34:53 <warlord> (you'll probably still have to remove the system version)
16:36:04 <gflohr> warlord: so the idea is to use a non-standard prefix? or what is the problem with the default /usr/local?
16:36:39 <warlord> the problem is that the runtime linker includes /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib by default so the libraries intertwine.
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16:39:21 <gflohr> yes, sure. but what is wrong with fixing the problem, giving precedence to the prefix of the running image?
16:39:42 <gflohr> or is that explained somewhere already?
16:44:05 <gflohr> btw, installing into /opt/something works, even with two more versions installed in /usr and /usr/local
16:48:33 <warlord> it's a runtime linker problem.
16:48:47 <warlord> (and a libtool problem)
16:48:49 <warlord> we cannot fix it.
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16:56:13 <gflohr> hm, I'm not really convinced. but I can live with one of the workarounds.
17:00:30 <warlord> well, if you want to fix it, patches are always welcome.
17:00:45 <warlord> but the devs wont do it.
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17:04:40 <gflohr> a simple fix for almost everybody would be to install a wrapper script around the actual binary. but I have a vague feeling that such a patch would maybe not be welcome. ;)
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17:05:42 <gflohr> but what about at least warning people about the problem? for example by autogen.sh?
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17:06:08 <gflohr> I found something in HACKING but that referred to running the program from the source tree, not from the installed location.
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17:07:46 <warlord> it would not be welcome.
17:08:19 <warlord> (so yes, you are correct -- we used to have a runtime script and moved away from it for very good reasons)
17:09:01 <warlord> feel free to send in a patch to add the warning
17:10:39 <gflohr> I sent a hint to the devs via irc. they should decide whether it's worth a prominent warning. ;)
17:11:18 <gflohr> but just imagine the situation of some unexperienced user that tries to install a self-compiled version in parallel to the vendor version.
17:11:47 <warlord> See, you just said an oxymoron: unexperienced user building gnucash from source.
17:11:49 <gflohr> that user ends up with both installed versions unusable without having done something wrong
17:11:59 <warlord> By definition, if you're building from source then you are not unexperienced.
17:12:08 <warlord> They did do something wrong..
17:12:37 <gflohr> the idea of the gnu autotools is to allow unexperienced users to build from sources.
17:12:50 * warlord shrugs
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17:13:43 <warlord> Like I said, you're welcome to fix the problem and send in a patch.
17:17:53 <gflohr> Like I said, I can live with the workarounds.
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