2013-07-06 GnuCash IRC logs

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20:32:12 <warlord> smw: no, they can be post-loaded, but there isn't a good development toolset to do so.
20:32:35 <warlord> smw: as for the tax info, you are right, you have to hit "OK" each time, IIRC.
20:33:00 <warlord> (not sure how long I've been offline)
20:35:09 <warlord> Hey john..
20:35:48 <john> warlord: Ah, Derek, you're back. I locked myself out again; please unlock me. IP is 67.169.5.207.
20:36:03 <warlord> Yeah, just saw your email.. Already fixed.
20:37:00 <warlord> .. responded to the email, too :)
20:37:16 <warlord> I wonder when I got disconnected?
20:38:01 <warlord> Looks like yesterday-ish
20:39:41 <john> I don't see a "left the chatroom" for you in my log, but you were there when I went up to make dinner yesterday evening. The box would have gone to sleep an hour after that, and you weren't on when I came down this morning.
20:40:09 <john> Thanks for unblocking me.
20:40:24 <warlord> My pleasure.
20:40:47 <warlord> Yeah, my lastlog entry on code seems to imply 23:43 on the 5th.
20:41:47 <john> Or 2043 here. My box was asleep.
20:42:51 <warlord> Yeah, 23:43 EDT
20:43:05 <warlord> How was the rest of your trip?
20:44:20 <warlord> Oh, and thank you for all your git help! I successfully was able to use it for both gnucash and work. For work I had to apply a rootRewrite rule in the git-svn config.
20:44:21 <john> Pretty good, especially after you took the rain back to Atlanta ;-).
20:44:27 <warlord> LOL
20:44:48 <warlord> Yeah, it's been very wet here. Luckily we've been in Hilton Head for the past 4 days, and it was beautiful there.
20:45:14 <john> My pleasure. Are you getting used to git's somewhat different workflow?
20:45:51 <warlord> No
20:45:52 <warlord> ;)
20:46:51 <john> Too bad. Seems like you're going to be stuck with it. ;-)
20:49:13 <warlord> LOL.
20:49:49 <warlord> My biggest complaint is that git makes it hard to work in multiple branches simultaneously in separate checkout dirs with a common/shared "history" collection.
20:52:04 <warlord> .. and the ability to push back to a server from any of them.
20:52:41 <john> Um, you're doing something wrong, then.
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20:53:59 <john> You can have a single "master" repo and clone branches from it. Git will hardlink a lot of things to save space. And you can set remotes in the branches that will let you push back to somewhere.
20:54:19 <warlord> yeah, but I have to manually set up the remotes..
20:54:27 <warlord> each time
20:54:53 <john> Each time you clone, yes.
20:54:57 <warlord> Historically I've sometimes had a dozen different checkouts.. If I have to manually set up the remotes every time I checkout... that's a PITA
20:55:50 <john> Time for a shell script -- or Perl, if you'd rather. Git comes with Git.pm which exposes most of the commands to direct use in perl.
20:55:53 <warlord> Well, how can I make a new checkout directory without a clone?
20:56:33 <john> cp -R? rsync?
20:57:28 <warlord> ... and without doubling the amount of disk space used.
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20:58:29 <john> fell: Frank, there's something wrong with your IRC client.
20:59:43 <john> Back to clone, then, wrapped in a script that sets up the remotes and whatever else.
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21:01:44 <john> You'll probably also want to write a script to sync the "master" when you push -- that can be simple, you really just need to push twice.
21:02:38 <warlord> Maybe; I think I'd rather to a dcommit ; sleep; pull-in-parent.. but that presumes there is some easy way to figure out from where something was cloned. Like the URL of 'origin'?
21:02:59 <john> git remote -v
21:03:48 <warlord> Interesting; provides different lines for 'fetch' and 'push'..
21:04:01 <warlord> Do you have have a pull URL and a push URL and have them be different?
21:04:18 <john> You don't have to, but you can.
21:04:27 <warlord> Hmm, I wonder how you set that up? ;)
21:04:42 <warlord> (not important in my case; most everything is behind a dcommit)
21:05:16 <warlord> Actually, I take it back, it *would* be useful for my cross-platform work between Mac and Linux; to have the Mac pull from the server but push to Linux.
21:05:37 <john> git remote set-url origin git://foo; git remote set-url --push origin git://bar
21:05:38 <fell> john: I tried to suspend my computer, but something went wrong. It is 03:00 here.
21:06:07 <john> Frank, then why are you still up?
21:06:25 <warlord> gotcha
21:06:39 <warlord> john: he's often up at "odd" hours
21:06:50 <warlord> fell: how far are you from Berlin?
21:07:04 <john> So he'll be back in bed by 0400? ;-)
21:07:28 <fell> It is one of the first summer nights here.
21:07:43 <john> Derek, you can also edit .git/config, which is often easier than messing around with git commands.
21:07:45 <warlord> Ah., right, you probably don't have AC ;)
21:08:12 <warlord> john: sure, but I'm not sure how to set a 'push url'
21:08:59 <fell> warlord Bruxelles, Luxemburg, Amsterdam, Paris and London are not so far from here.
21:09:18 <warlord> Ah, right, you're over in THAT corner.
21:10:32 <john> The push url is spelled pushurl in .git/config; otherwise it looks just like url.
21:11:39 <warlord> see, and it is esoterica like that which will take a long time to learn.
21:13:05 <john> I just ran git remote set-url --push and then cat .git/config. I plan to forget about it almost immediately. ;-)
21:14:39 <john> I also keep http://git-scm.com/docs open in a browser tab. Saves me remembering all of that esoterica.
21:14:50 <warlord> Anyways, yes, I think I am going to have to write a script that is effectively "cd into origin's directory, git fetch, then to a 'git-update' from the current repo" -- as well as a special clone that will look at the parent's git-svn config and duplicate it. looks like I can grab that from 'git svn info' in the URL line
21:15:09 <warlord> LOL.
21:15:50 <warlord> oooh, URL and "Repository Root"..
21:17:19 <warlord> I guess I have my next project.. The URL might affect the rewriteRoot setting
21:17:47 <warlord> so I need to figure out the right 'git svn init' to use as well as whether to add the rewriteRoot, and what to put in it..
21:20:08 <john> git svn has its own block in .git/config. Note the fetch, branches, and tags keys.
21:20:47 <warlord> Yeah, but I wasn't expecting to read/parse the .git/config file.
21:21:06 <warlord> git will already do that for me ;)
21:21:18 <john> As long as you don't do anything weird with your svn repo layout, you can just pass --stdlayout and the "trunk" url to git svn init
21:23:25 <warlord> Right, but need to figure out the trunk URL, Do to the way rewriteRoot works, I cannot take the URL directly, nor can I take the Repository Root directly. I need to merge them.
21:24:30 <warlord> If the protocol and host match between URL and RR then I can just use the URL. Otherwise I need to generate a URL using the RR base with the URL path-to-trunk and then add the RR.
21:24:41 <warlord> (I need to use RR for work)
21:25:31 <warlord> The reason is that their git-svn pull from svn uses a svn://<path> URL, but to dcommit I need to use svn+ssh://<path> -- so I need to rewriteRoot to get it all to work right..
21:26:44 <john> Won't that mess up the commit hashes? Or is that what fixes them?
21:26:55 <john> Dinner time… ttyl
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21:29:18 <warlord> That's what fixed them
21:29:25 <warlord> Anyways, I gotta run too. TTYL
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