2013-05-03 GnuCash IRC logs

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07:07:56 <kendle> can't figure out where my starting balance comes from. i have entered every transaction from the opening deposit at the bank. there is a "starting balance" of $1.00 when i go to reconcile the account the first time. I checked the equity>opening balance account, and it is empty.
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11:27:36 <quaddle> i am confused by why my first "starting balance" when i reconcile my account register is not $0.00. I didn't use the opening balance account, because when i put in the transactions i put them in starting with the opening deposit for the account.
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11:28:39 <quaddle> i cannot find a transaction to blame for this balance, so i am confused.
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12:04:12 <warlord> quaddle: the o-b might be non-0 if some transactions got imported as 'reconciled'
12:04:50 <warlord> quaddle: the reconcile o-b doesn't come from Equity, it comes from reconciled transactions in the account.
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12:13:44 <quaddle> there aren't any previous transactions, this is the first time to reconcile the account
12:14:08 <quaddle> there are no transactions in the register that are reconciled, at all.
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12:30:35 <warlord> quaddle: If none of the transactions have 'y' in the reconcile column of the account in question (or its subaccounts, if you use that feature), then the starting balance when you reconcile *WILL* be 0. Now, you may be hiding those reconciled transactions...
12:30:49 <warlord> But it will exist if the starting reconcile balance is not 0
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12:31:11 <warlord> it cannot be non-zero without a reconciled transaction. That value isn't cached anywhere -- it is computed.
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13:30:31 <quaddle> if you say so, but i have checked every transaction in the account from the very first one. there are no "y's" in the reconcile column, and there are no subacounts
13:30:57 <quaddle> i want that starting balance to be 0, but it isn't
13:32:50 <warlord> quaddle: Then you're overlooking something. Try this: open up the account, then go to View -> Filter by...
13:33:24 <warlord> From there, select Date and Show All..
13:33:27 <warlord> Click Ok.
13:33:57 <warlord> Then View -> Filter by... again, select status, and uncheck 'unreconciled' and 'cleared'
13:34:03 <warlord> then click ok
13:34:11 <quaddle> alright i will do it now
13:34:50 <warlord> What version of gnucash are you using? And what OS/Distro?
13:36:39 <quaddle> i am using version 2.4.10, and i am on kubuntu 12.04
13:37:59 <warlord> okay, and what storage backend are you using? (probably XML)
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13:39:47 <quaddle> whatever is default, it never asked, so i never changed it
13:40:32 <warlord> okay. default should be xml
13:42:34 <quaddle> so did what you said, and i didn't notice any thing different
13:44:54 <warlord> ???
13:45:35 <warlord> When you uncheck the unreconciled and cleared flags on that filter-by, it should remove all the unreconciled/uncleared transactions from the view.. If nothing changed, that means you have reconciled transactions.
13:45:52 <warlord> Can you create some screen shots and upload them somewhere like imagebin for me to see?
13:46:10 <quaddle> i'll double check that i did it right
13:48:29 <warlord> ok
13:48:29 <quaddle> ok, the filter is set so that in the date tab "Show All" is selected, and in the status tab i have everything checked except "unreconciled" and "cleared"
13:48:44 <warlord> ok...
13:49:01 <warlord> that should limit your register to only reconciled (or voided!) transactions..
13:49:58 <quaddle> alright, i found the transaction...so, i was wrong, there was one cleared transaction
13:50:28 <quaddle> you have been exeedingly helpful. thank you very much. i am glad, for once, to be wrong
13:51:00 <warlord> :)
13:51:23 <quaddle> once i changed it from a "c" to a "n" all was well in the account.
13:51:25 <warlord> Glad to have helped. Sorry if I seemed overly beligerent about it.
13:51:54 <quaddle> no problem. at least you helped, you could have just called me an idiot, and left.
13:51:58 <quaddle> thanx again
13:54:53 <warlord> LOL. I try not to leave, even after calling people idiots..
13:55:55 <warlord> ;)
14:01:22 <quaddle> bye
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