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13:42:42 <TommyT> I am trying the "self backporting" procedure http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building. (I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and trying to self-backport the 2.4.12 package from Raring. Getting an error I haven't figured out: E: Build-Depends dependency for gnucash cannot be satisfied because the package libaqbanking34-dev cannot be found
13:44:49 <warlord> TommyT: Is this from 'apt-get build-dep gnucash' ?
13:45:20 <TommyT> yes... sudo apt-cache showsrc libaqbanking34-dev shows info about the libaqbanking package
13:45:34 <TommyT> so it's there
13:45:49 <warlord> try an apt-get update?
13:46:07 <TommyT> done that...
13:46:47 <warlord> I'm afraid you've reached the limits of my debuntu knowledge. I use Fedora.
13:46:52 <TommyT> I also tried aptitude, but it wants to mess with a lot of packages AND it gives similar errors
13:47:26 <TommyT> I understand. I'm about to run get some lunch; maybe someone with some debian / ubuntu experience can chime in
13:47:28 <warlord> What happens if you just try to install that single -dev package?
13:47:40 <warlord> TommyT: you might get more help on the gnucash-user mailing list
13:48:27 <TommyT> I tried apt-get build-dep libaqbanking34-dev, which installed a lot of packages, but gnucash still fails
13:48:39 <TommyT> I'll try the email list. Thanks!
13:49:22 <warlord> try "apt-get install libaqbanking34-dev"
13:50:05 <TommyT> "E: Unable to locate package libaqbanking34-dev"
13:51:05 <warlord> Sounds like an apt issue.
13:51:22 <warlord> especially if apt-cache search libaqbanking34-dev gives you a positive result.
13:51:46 <TommyT> I just tried sudo apt-get install libaqbanking-dev and it said "Note, selecting 'libaqbanking33-dev' instead of 'libaqbanking-dev'"
13:52:02 <warlord> Hmm, I wonder why 33 and not 34?
13:53:09 <TommyT> probably because I'm trying to self-backport? (the older dev package will be the binary; I'm trying to get it to compile the newer one)
13:53:37 <warlord> Oh, I thought you were just trying to build gnucash from the tar.gz
13:53:52 <warlord> I misunderstood.
13:54:15 <TommyT> No what I USUALLY do is grab it from git, but I was trying the "easy as 123" info in the wiki
13:54:20 <warlord> More recent gnucash .debs probably depend on more recent dependencies.
13:55:13 <TommyT> ya, the wiki says you can self-backport automagically; if it doesn't I'll just take that out of the wiki
13:55:13 <warlord> so it sounds like your problem is a mix of 12.04 + more-recent repos.. Or you're build-dep is running off a too-recent source repo.
13:55:33 <warlord> Well, it generally works, but you need to build-dep using the existing repos
13:55:46 <warlord> ... so it would build the newer gnucash against your existing deps.
13:55:58 <TommyT> I'm using 13.04 source which may have some instabilities
13:56:12 <warlord> yes, that is your problem. Dont do that.
13:56:17 <TommyT> I'll probably just go back to grabbing from git
13:56:23 <warlord> (at least don't do that until after you do your build-dep)
13:56:52 <warlord> Then you can pull the gnucash src from 13.04.. Or just pull the tar.gz from SF.
13:58:43 <TommyT> Maybe 13.04 isn't a good example to test from; I might give 12.10 a try (even though it will compile the older version of gnucash) because my other motivation was to test the procedure in the wiki
13:59:22 <warlord> If you're running a 13.04 sources list then you also need the 13.04 package list for the dependencies.
14:00:35 <TommyT> I thought if I added the deb-src for 13.04 in my sources.list it knows how to pull in everything; that's what the wiki has said for years, though this is the first time I've tried it.
14:01:28 <warlord> No, that only pulls in the source package..
14:01:47 <warlord> The explicit dependencies from that source package will point to the 13.04 package repo.
14:02:25 <TommyT> Hmmmmmmm.... I thought the source packages were "smarter" than that; referring to the packages by name, not by repository
14:02:58 <TommyT> (name and version)
14:03:15 <warlord> It's the "name & version" that's your issue here.
14:03:26 <warlord> there is no aqb34 in 12.04
14:04:01 <TommyT> AHA. SO I will FIRST have to backport aqb34!!! That's it.
14:04:29 <warlord> Or just build gnucash against aqb33
14:06:13 <TommyT> ya, since I don't use aqb at all I don't care what version I'm using. BUT the self-backport thing sounded so compelling. Maybe after lunch.
14:06:18 <TommyT> Thank you !!
14:07:58 <warlord> good luck
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15:50:23 <warlord> fell_, mikee: could one of you /op gncbot, please? (although granted will have to do it again in ~3 hours)
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15:51:19 <fell> @op gncbot,warlord
15:51:19 <gncbot> fell: Error: You don't have the #gnucash,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
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16:01:22 <warlord> thx
16:02:30 <fell> I always forget, how to do it, but just found a context menu. :-)
16:02:54 <warlord> this was an unplanned comcast outage.. still have the planned outage in 2h30m
16:03:39 <warlord> that is why i said: /op gncbot ;)
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16:06:49 <fell> I will add it to a wiki page "Operating IRC".
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16:14:16 <warlord> okay
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16:37:20 <fell> warlord: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Operating_IRC
16:37:27 <warlord> Thanks, fell
16:37:53 <fell> You didn't read it. :-(
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16:46:15 <warlord> Sure I did
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18:58:42 <warlord> Hmm, I wonder what's going on with the network maint?
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20:23:36 <warlord> fell, mikee: could one of you /op gncbot please?
20:23:45 <warlord> Network maint is done.
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