2013-01-31 GnuCash IRC logs
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17:29:19 <Adam1> Just installed GnuCash after many years of MS Money. I am importing for the first time. My bank gives me several formats to choose from: qfx, ofx, qbo, qif. Does it matter which I choose? Does one work better than others?
17:30:33 <Adam1> Next, I tried using qfx, and have the "Generic import transaction matcher" window open. I could find no documentation on this window... What to the columns with checkboxes mean (labelled "A", "U+R", and "R"), and what do the colors mean?
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17:36:44 <Adam1> Is there anyone here?
17:40:22 <warlord> Adam1: this was just discussed on the -user list today. Please check the archives. But if you are importing from MS-Money you should use QIF.
17:40:34 <warlord> It will give you splits and proper target accounts.
17:41:34 <Adam1> Sorry I wasn't clear: I was previously using MS Money, but I'm not importing data from there - I'm starting from a blank GnuCash file (I don't need my old data in the same file). So I'm importing data from my bank for a new month.
17:42:00 <Adam1> For the user list: I did some google searching before coming here, but didn't find this. Can you point me in the right direction?
17:42:41 <warlord> go to www.gnucash.org and click on the mailing lists link, then look at the archive from... today
17:43:07 <warlord> There's a thread, "How does the generic import transaction matcher work?" which just had yet another message about 20 minutes ago.
17:43:40 <warlord> Oh, and if you're starting from scratch.... Why are you importing?
17:43:49 * warlord doesn't import data..
17:44:04 <warlord> When you import, you lose the benefit of reconciliation -- to detect a bank error.
17:44:12 <warlord> (and yes, I *have* found bank errors before)
17:44:36 <warlord> if you just import then you lose that, because you blindly accept what the bank tells you.
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17:52:59 <Adam1> I have a pile of receipts sitting next to me. When I was in MSMoney, I would go through my pile of receipts, and for each receipt, click "accept" on the account register, and assign it a category.
17:53:14 <Adam1> (sorry if that double-posted... I got a message that I was disconnected)
17:53:25 <warlord> nope, didn't double-post
17:54:15 <Adam1> I'm looking to do the same now with GnuCash, so I imported my bank statement, and am now going through the import window, and matching my receipts to my downlaoded statement. I, too, have seen bank errors before.
17:54:16 <warlord> gnucash doesn't do that, per se. The importer window gives you the ability to select your income/expense account (category), but I dont think there is an 'accept' vs. 'dont accept' as part of the importer.
17:55:06 <Adam1> Okay, that's what I thought one of the columns of checkboxes must have been. I've found the thread you were talking about.
17:55:45 <warlord> The color I think alludes to whether it will be imported. But I dont think there's a way to specify not to if it's "green".
17:56:33 <Adam1> One thing I used to do also, as I was going through my receipts, I would update the description/memo field with what I bought (in cases where I might want to be able to go back and search by name). I don't see a way to do that here - I would have to import first, and once done importing, update the memo - correct?
17:56:55 <warlord> Correct.
17:57:01 <warlord> (yet another reason not to import)_
17:59:04 <Adam1> It just saves a lot of typing, and I am probably more likely to typo a number when typing relative to there being an error in my import (which I know I would find when I reconcile)
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18:06:32 <warlord> Fair enough.
18:06:50 <warlord> GnuCash does learn, so if you have repeated transactions it will autocomplete so all you need to do is update the amount.
18:09:49 <Adam1> I'm hoping to get more familiar with it quickly.
18:12:07 <Adam1> Another thing I used to do... when I imported my transactions, those that I had my receipt, I would "accept", and they would go to my account register. Those that I didn't accept would be marked "pending" - and I could go and look for those pending ones later. I don't see a way to do this with GnuCash - if I click OK, then anything marked "Add" gets added... what happens if I selected "Reconcile", but there isn't already a transactio
18:12:55 <warlord> you ended at "isn't already a transactio" (which I'm sure is "transaction" but I don't see anything after that)
18:13:15 <warlord> If there isn't an existing txn I honestly don't know what happens.. It might get imported pre-reconciled. But I'm not sure.
18:17:40 <Adam1> The rest was "what happens if I selected "Reconcile", but there isn't already a transaction to match with?"
18:17:53 <Adam1> Okay, thank you for your help. I'm going to continue on. I suspect I might need to change the way I do things slightly...
18:18:18 <warlord> Good luck!
18:18:31 <warlord> And feel free to ask on the list where there are plenty of people to help.
18:18:43 <warlord> I also highly recommend reading through the Tutorial and Concepts Guide.
18:25:05 <Adam1> I did - read through that before I started. I didn't see a section about importing. Then I even went back and looked again before coming here - I don't htink there is one.
18:25:35 <warlord> hmm.. maybe it's only in the Help?
18:26:56 <Adam1> I looked in both "The Help Manual" and "Tutorial and Concepts Guide" - I didn't see it either place.
18:27:09 <warlord> Odd..
18:30:08 <warlord> Are you looking at the most recent online docs? Not an older version?
18:30:56 <Adam1> I started from gnucash.org - I'm assuming they are the most recent
18:31:24 <warlord> Depends which doc link you clicked ;)
18:35:14 <Adam1> From the main website, "Documentation" on the left, then at top center are two links - those two.
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18:47:50 <warlord> Yeah, that's some older docs.
18:47:51 <warlord> try http://code.gnucash.org/docs/
18:48:13 <warlord> (and by older I mean 1-2 months, but I think there were changes in importer docs recently... I THINK)
18:49:16 <Adam1> Great, thanks! I'll take a look there.
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