2013-01-17 GnuCash IRC logs

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04:25:49 <goudkov> hi guys. i'm trying to upgrade from ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 on a different machine. gnucash 2.2.9 to 2.4.10. i copied ~/.gnucash and ~/.aqbanking to my new machine, but gnucash still starts with a new prompt and doesn't see the existing data. any ideas on what to try?
04:40:45 <goudkov> nevermind. it looks like i needed to copy ~/.gconf/apps/gnucash as well
04:41:10 <goudkov> i wonder if stylesheets from 2.2.9 would still work or if i need to remove them from my ~/.gnucash
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08:49:37 <warlord> gjanssens: ping?
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09:05:29 <vong> can GnuCash import LibreOffice Spreadsheet documents?
09:13:38 <warlord> not directly.
09:14:27 <warlord> you could use calc2qif to convert your data to qif..
09:14:41 <warlord> or you can try the csv importer.
09:47:49 <gjanssens> warlord: pong
09:48:17 <warlord> gjanssens: I got the okay for Sunday morning EST
09:48:29 <warlord> Did you talk to K?
09:48:43 <gjanssens> Didn't get around to it.
09:48:50 <gjanssens> I'll let you know later.
09:48:58 <gjanssens> Today was accountant day here
09:49:19 <gjanssens> I spent most of the morning and noon going through our paperwork together
09:49:27 <gjanssens> for a quarterly vat declaration.
09:49:43 <gjanssens> That's also what kept me busy the last couple of days
09:49:46 <warlord> Ok. Just let me know if you have time and I'll mark it off in my calendar.
09:49:52 <gjanssens> Ok
09:50:21 <gjanssens> Got an accounting question as well
09:50:51 <warlord> I fly home in a bit over 24 hours. So I might do my hardware work Friday. But I know my Saturday morning is busy.
09:50:54 <warlord> Sure, go ahead.
09:51:04 <gjanssens> It seems European law will change regarding VAT declaration in the not so distant future.
09:51:42 <gjanssens> Currently, the date to consider when VAT is due is based on the invoice date
09:52:04 <gjanssens> If the invoice date falls in say the first quarter, then VAT is due at the end of the first quarter
09:52:17 <gjanssens> This is easily handled in GnuCash
09:52:22 <warlord> Changing it from Accrual to Cash-based?
09:52:34 <warlord> (so it's date of payment, not date of invoice?)
09:52:39 <gjanssens> Just query the relevant tax account
09:52:44 <gjanssens> Indeed
09:53:04 <gjanssens> But how do you extract a list of VAT due in that case ?
09:53:22 <warlord> Right now, you don't..
09:53:32 <gjanssens> That's what I feared
09:53:39 <warlord> C.f. old Bugzilla ...
09:54:54 <gjanssens> Is there still an open enhancement request for such a feature ?
09:54:56 <warlord> We would need to write a report to convert from Accrual to Cash. Basically it would need go over every transaction in A/R and A/P and only deal with 'paid' invoices. So you look at every Lot and need to change the dates based on the payments.
09:55:03 <warlord> There should be.
09:55:17 <warlord> search Bz for "Accrual"
09:55:23 <gjanssens> Ok
09:55:29 <warlord> or "Cash"
09:55:32 <warlord> (in the summary)
09:56:03 <gjanssens> Mind you, none of the available (commercial) accounting software packages here in Belgium can handle this currently
09:56:18 <gjanssens> So GnuCash isn't alone :)
09:56:28 <warlord> Yeah..
09:56:49 <gjanssens> As it stands now, the new law will take effect as of January 1, 2014
09:57:00 <warlord> There's definitely been call for it -- in the US most businesses have to report on a Cash basis (including my own business when I was consulting!)
09:57:31 <warlord> ... I just did the conversion by hand, because it really only was a problem when invoice and payment are not in the same period, andin my case a period was a calendar year.
09:57:42 <warlord> so it was only an issue for December invoices.
09:58:04 <gjanssens> Right, for small businesses there's not much overhead.
09:58:32 <warlord> but still it would be nice if the gnucash reports would do the work for me.
09:58:35 <gjanssens> I wouldn't want to start doing this when there are lots of invoices though
09:58:42 <gjanssens> Sure
09:59:07 * gjanssens thought you were still doing consulting
09:59:15 <gjanssens> What do you do now then ?
09:59:23 <gjanssens> Fathering ;) ?
09:59:24 <warlord> No.. Right now I work for a company called Mocana.
09:59:47 <warlord> From 2005 I was working for PGP Corporation, which got bought by Symantec.
10:00:54 <gjanssens> Cool, really something in your area of expertise
10:01:56 <warlord> yep ... it was an offer I couldn't refuse at the time..
10:04:48 <gjanssens> I can understand that
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10:06:21 <gjanssens> Found the bugreport: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95700
10:06:38 <gjanssens> I'll keep it in mind should I find time to work on this.
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10:06:49 <gjanssens> Got lots of other items on my agenda though...
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10:07:53 * gjanssens got curious to the name of your company (IHTFP)
10:08:01 <gjanssens> Found the answer on your website
10:09:22 <gjanssens> I like stories behind names :)
10:09:36 <gjanssens> Anyway, back to work
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10:12:25 <warlord> Later!
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15:19:46 <clay> Hi, I am trying to get direct connect working with e*trade(I emailed the gnucash-user list earlier). Initally was getting the error message "HTTP-Status: 400 (Unsupported OFX message set BANK)" and after clicking the send empty bank id checkbox I am receiving the message "HTTP-Status: 400 (OFX Request Parsing Error)" I've messed with a few other settings that seem to have no impact one way or another. Any suggestions?
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