2012-11-28 GnuCash IRC logs

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06:26:38 <marie> hi, what exactly the "online banking" feature of gnucash does? Is it able to _make_ online transactions? Or it is only informative? I am able to transfer money with gnucash? Thanks very much for clarify
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07:43:28 <warlord> marie: it depends where you are.. In Germany, using HBCI, it can initiate transactions. But everywhere else it is pull/read only.
07:43:58 <warlord> (the reason being there is no test servers available for the other protocols, so there is no way to test the implementation is correct)
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09:02:13 <marie> warlord: thank you for your reply. and one more - can i use FinTS/HBCI without a card reader or i have to afford one? Do i understand it right that FinTS/HBCI is the only open protocol for comunicating with ebanking and no other has been reverse-engineered? Thx again
09:03:23 <warlord> I think there is Pin/Tan support; I do not believe you need to have a chip card reader. But I don't know, I'm not in Germany and I've never used HBCI
09:03:51 <marie> warlord: i am not in germany either, i live in czech republic
09:04:21 <warlord> But yes, HBCI is the only protocol that supports transaction initiation, not because other protocols don't describe it, but because none of the other available protocols have a test harness or test server against which you can test your implementation.
09:04:33 <warlord> No developer wants to risk sending all their money somewhere random!
09:05:00 <marie> warlord: that is understandable, thank you...
09:05:02 <warlord> I dont know what protocol(s) are in use in Cz
09:08:21 <marie> so definitively, no-one here uses FinTS/HBCI or Pin/Tan to initiate transactions? Preferably in GnuCash but it could be also other software (i believe kmymoney has also some HBCI implementation)
09:11:05 <warlord> Everyone uses AqBanking. So both GnuCash and KMM should effectively support the same things.
09:11:13 <warlord> I don't know what AqB supports, honestly.
09:11:35 <marie> warlord: oh, i got it now...
09:11:36 <warlord> none of our regular AqB users are online right now.
09:11:52 <marie> that's ok, i am patient :)
09:12:38 <warlord> You can try asking on the gnucash-user list, but most likely they will ask you to ask on the gnucash-de list, since that's where most of the HBCI activity lives. How's your German? ;)
09:13:17 <marie> warlord: my german is very very bad xD
09:13:23 <warlord> mine too
09:13:43 <marie> warlord: but i can ask friend to help me with translation, that's fine
09:14:08 <warlord> You can try on gnucash-user in english first.
09:15:23 <marie> warlord: I'll do, thank you
09:15:39 <warlord> I know that martin, from AqB, does read the -user list.
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