2012-10-30 GnuCash IRC logs
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13:53:13 <candyflip> how can a new transaction be created *outside* gnucash, and then imported?
13:56:31 <warlord> candyflip: I dont understand the question.
13:56:58 <candyflip> warlord: I don't want to manually enter the transaction using my keyboard.
13:57:05 <candyflip> i want my script to do the work
13:57:33 <warlord> have your script generate QIF or OFX and then you can import that.
13:57:35 <candyflip> i see that there are options to import QIF files, and replay gc log files
13:58:03 <candyflip> but QIF imports are about as cumbersome as entering manually, if just for one transaction
13:58:30 <candyflip> (since GC tries to figure out what account to associate, and tries to match it to existing transactions)
13:59:51 <candyflip> i know the best way to /extract/ transactions is using another tool (ledger).. so i wonder if there is also a good tool for insertions
13:59:58 <candyflip> perhaps ledger?
14:00:47 <warlord> Well, your other option is to have your script call the gnucash API directly to perform insertions. What is your *source* of data?
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14:02:18 <candyflip> warlord: sounds interesting.. i didn't realize gnucash had an api
14:02:23 <candyflip> i just have a bash script
14:02:31 <warlord> Yep, implemented in C, Scheme, and Python.
14:02:40 <warlord> Where is the bash script getting its data?
14:03:11 <candyflip> the bash script imports a CSV file containing clock-in and clock-outs from a timecard
14:03:32 <candyflip> it then figures out how much to bill for
14:04:04 <warlord> Are you trying to create a txn or an invoice?
14:04:17 <candyflip> both, actually
14:04:43 <candyflip> first a transaction in a dummy account, to track how much I can charge for
14:04:57 <candyflip> then i normally create a proper invoice from that account
14:05:27 <candyflip> but the invoice creation is complex enough that i might have to continue doing that part manually
14:07:29 <candyflip> the .log file replay looks interesting
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14:08:04 <warlord> Don't use the log replay
14:08:05 <candyflip> i can do a manual entry, then perhaps use the resulting .log as a template for future entries, and do a replay
14:08:20 <candyflip> why not?
14:08:26 <warlord> No, you shouldn't. It's broken in many MANY ways..
14:08:34 <warlord> It's very limited in what it can do
14:08:47 <warlord> and it will create broken data files if done improperly
14:10:31 <candyflip> well i'm a bit adverse to the QIF import, because that's a wizard/import process that tries to do too much guesswork and requires the user to make decisions
14:11:03 <candyflip> what are these dtaus files? are those perhaps more deterministic?
14:11:46 <candyflip> hmm.. looks german
14:11:57 <warlord> Yep, they are.
14:12:06 <warlord> Everything requires some human input.. at least at first.
14:12:14 <warlord> Then gnucash can learn for future imports.
14:13:16 <candyflip> i like how ledger can directly work with gnucash files without an HMI, and scripts can use ledger
14:13:33 <candyflip> i'm just not clear on whether ledger can modify gnucash files
14:16:58 <candyflip> i suppose my script could also call a scheme or python script to make use of the GC API, but i don't know those languages
14:16:58 <warlord> I have no idea. ledger isn't a gnucash program
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14:18:45 <candyflip> ledger is a great tool for GC users.. can't live w/out it. It enables users to use regular expressions on the commandline to extract gnucash data, and then outputs results in CSV format
14:19:27 <candyflip> it really compensates for gnucash's shortcomings with creating custom reports
14:20:53 <warlord> Gnucash has every report I've needed so far..
14:21:03 <warlord> (then again, if it didn't I could write one using scheme)
14:22:20 <candyflip> what's the difference between QIF and OFX?
14:23:41 <candyflip> ofx is newer
14:30:26 <warlord> different formats. OFX is SGML, QIF is more text-like. QIF allows split txns
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21:30:42 <warlord> @op
21:30:42 <gncbot> warlord: Error: You don't have the #gnucash,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
21:30:55 <warlord> @op
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