2012-06-28 GnuCash IRC logs
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05:21:12 <Helge_Ramthun> Hi
05:21:47 <Helge_Ramthun> I have a question about automatic booking my online transactions.
05:22:01 <Helge_Ramthun> When importing, hardly any bookings are properly recognised.
05:22:14 <Helge_Ramthun> I'm trying to train gnucash, that is, I import week by week.
05:22:32 <Helge_Ramthun> But somehow, it is a very rare case that a booking is properly recognised.
05:22:48 <Helge_Ramthun> Even though tere are some very common keywords in the booking text
05:22:59 <Helge_Ramthun> E.g. Name of a german shop: REWE
05:23:10 <Helge_Ramthun> this should also go to my account for Food.
05:23:32 <Helge_Ramthun> currently it is even recognised as belonging to one of my savings accounts...
05:23:44 <Helge_Ramthun> Is there a way to directly manipulate the keyword recognition?
05:25:48 *** Helge_Ramthun is now known as YeOldHinnerk
05:26:23 <YeOldHinnerk> Or am I in the wrong channel, e.g. developer vs user?
05:29:49 * YeOldHinnerk plays some elevator music to bridge the time to answer...
05:33:59 <YeOldHinnerk> Hm, anyone not afk?
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07:29:02 <YeOldHinnerk> ok, thinks improved, after a couple of months of data...
07:29:10 <YeOldHinnerk> anyway, other questions:
07:29:21 <YeOldHinnerk> I have my accounts with the german bank "Postbank".
07:29:45 <YeOldHinnerk> including credit card, etc.
07:30:11 <YeOldHinnerk> according to support, for credit card etc. only the current amount in the account can be found out via hbci
07:30:16 <YeOldHinnerk> not the single transactions.
07:30:27 <YeOldHinnerk> is there an alternative approach to read this data out?
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07:58:54 <YeOldHinnerk> hi
07:59:02 <YeOldHinnerk> anyone awake?
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08:36:57 <warlord> YeOldHinnerk: Did you turn on Bayesian Matching?
08:37:42 <warlord> As for HBCI, I'm afraid I cannot answer you.
08:38:04 <warlord> Not only do I not use online features, but HBCI is only in Germany so I cannot use it.
08:38:18 <warlord> Fell might be able to help you
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08:59:30 <fell> Hm, too late. Best startpoint for german online banking users should be http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/HBCI with links to aquamaniac ...
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10:22:13 <YeOldHinnerk> anybody awake?
10:22:50 <YeOldHinnerk> i have questions about credit card and broker accounts
10:40:57 <fell> YeOldHinnerk: zu Deiner vorigen Frage: Hast du meinen Verweis auf http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/HBCI gesehen?
10:43:12 <YeOldHinnerk> Hallo, ja, die Seite kenne ich
10:43:19 <YeOldHinnerk> wie gesagt, mein Griokonto funzt auch
10:44:24 <YeOldHinnerk> und die anderen konten wurden von HBCI auch erkannt.
10:44:33 <YeOldHinnerk> aber eine umsatzabfrage ist nicht möglich
10:45:17 <YeOldHinnerk> und wie richte ich ein depot bei gnucash ein?
10:46:41 <fell> Zum Depot: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/Aktienhandel
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10:49:50 <fell> Wenn beim Onlinebanking was nicht klappt, entweder auf gnucash-de oder auf Martins Liste aqbanking-user nachfragen.
10:51:09 <fell> Ich hab das irgendwann mal eingerichtet und dann lief das über zehn Jahre problemlos.
10:52:12 <YeOldHinnerk> mir geht es wie gesagt nur um die umsätze der kreditkarte und des tagesgeldkontos.
10:52:15 <fell> Inzwischen ist das ja fürchterlich kompliziert geworden mit den ganzen verschieden TAN-Verfahren, da bin ich nicht so ganz auf dem laufenden.
10:52:33 <YeOldHinnerk> ja, aber wie gesagt: das normale girokonto klappt ganz wunderbar
10:54:24 <YeOldHinnerk> zum depot: heisst das, das der bestand meines depot manuell eingebucht werden muss?
10:54:33 <fell> Also beim Giro klappt alles und die Kreditkarte gibt nur einen Saldo zurück und keine Buchungssätze?
10:54:37 <YeOldHinnerk> d.h. ich muss die transaktionen jeweils manuell nachvolziehen
10:55:09 <YeOldHinnerk> ja, bei der kreditkarte meldet hbci, dass für die kontoart keine umsätze unterstützt würden.
10:55:36 <YeOldHinnerk> saldoabfrage klappt auch nicht.
11:02:40 <fell> Da ich noch nie ne Kreditkarte hatte, weiß ich nicht, ob es überhaupt geht - bei amerikanischen Banken geht das teilweise mit OFX: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX
11:04:33 <fell> Mancherorts kann man sich seine Umsätze auch als csv-Datei von der Webseite runterladen und dann versuchen diese zu importieren.
11:07:34 <fell> Hast Du denn noch irgendwo in $HOME/.aqbanking/... die .log-Dateien vom einrichten? Je nachdem was da drinstand (ob es überhaupt geht; welcher Fehler sonst aufgetreten ist...) könnte dir auf den Mailinglisten jemand weiterhelfen.
11:10:42 <fell> Was das Depot angeht: mir wäre bisher kein deutscher Betreiber bekannt, der da die Daten in einem standardisierten Verfahren HBCI/FinTS, OFX, QIF, CSV anbietet. Ich lasse mich aber gerne berichtigen.
11:12:59 <fell> Ich finde aber, mit GnuCashs Autofill ist die (viertel-/)jährliche Ausschüttung oder Thesaurierung schnell gemacht, wenn man die einmal vernünftig eingegeben hat
11:14:31 <fell> So, jetz kommst du ;-)
11:18:00 <YeOldHinnerk> hm
11:18:10 <YeOldHinnerk> zum dem aktiendepot:
11:18:20 <YeOldHinnerk> laut der anleitung muss ich etwas manuell nachinstallieren.
11:18:27 <YeOldHinnerk> ich habe die windows version von gnuchas.
11:18:31 <YeOldHinnerk> was ist zu tun?
11:19:35 <fell> Was meinst du mit nachinstallieren? Finance::Quote?
11:23:48 <fell> Das sollte auf http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/Installation#Installation_des_optionalen_Zubeh.C3.B6rs erklärt sein.
11:30:40 <YeOldHinnerk> schau es mir gerade an
11:31:23 <YeOldHinnerk> aber um die anderen punkte zusammenzufassen: kreditkarte und depot müssen bewegungen manuell nachgebucht bekommen
11:36:37 <fell> Also wenn ich bei google aqbanking+kreditkarte eingebe, bekomme ich über 2000 Treffer. Die kannst Du ja mal versuchen sinnvoll zu filtern.
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11:50:55 <YeOldHinnerk> ja, googeln tu ich bereits wie ne wilde wutz. ist aber eben doch sehr spezifisch (gnucash & kreditkarte & postbank -> Da bleiben nicht so viele aktuelle Treffer über :/)
11:51:08 <YeOldHinnerk> so, bin erstmal weg,
11:51:10 <YeOldHinnerk> danke!
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12:38:22 <aruiz> anybody knows Ngewi Fet's nickname?
12:38:32 <aruiz> he's the GSoC student
12:38:43 <warlord> Sorry, not offhand. Not sure if he is here.
12:39:01 <aruiz> okay
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