2010-12-20 GnuCash IRC logs

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03:00:43 <roe_> are the rumors true? When I wake up tomorrow will 2.4 be released?
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03:26:27 <kimmo> whoa
03:26:57 <kimmo> this will be a tough one. Should I update right before book closing?
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07:54:38 <warlord> roe_: Possibly, but probably not.
07:54:56 <warlord> kimmo: You should definitely use a recent build to close your books, not 2.2.x
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08:02:46 <kimmo> why's that?
08:03:02 <kimmo> what is the business benefit for that?
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08:22:12 <warlord> what'
08:22:21 <warlord> s the benefit of a recent build instead of 2.2?
08:22:34 <warlord> Recent build mark closing transactions so that reports can ignore them
08:22:37 <warlord> 2.2 does not mark them
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08:31:54 <kimmo> sure it does
08:32:35 <kimmo> at least my 2.2.9 Balance Sheet and Income Statement (and derivatives) disregard "Closing Entries" transactions
08:35:19 <warlord> I'm sorry to disinform you, but no, the transaction marking code was added March 2010 and was never backported to 2.2.
08:35:45 <warlord> Perhaps your balance sheet isnt including the closing transactions because you ignored the closing date?
08:37:01 <kimmo> ah not the balance sheet (I wouldn't want it there), but the income statement does exclude it
08:38:51 <warlord> Again, probably only because you're choosing dates that ignore it.
08:39:46 <kimmo> no, the income statement report options has a "tab" Entries, that lets me define the pattern that defines closing entries
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08:42:26 <warlord> The point remains, closing entries aren't tagged in any special way.
08:43:13 <kimmo> ah
08:43:31 <kimmo> has someone submitted recently a cost center patch?
08:44:17 <fell> IIRC some report /can/ exclude transactions with a special string, but there is a translation problem with them.
08:49:03 <warlord> kimmo: no
08:49:42 <warlord> fell: right.. whereas using xaccTransGetIsClosingTxn() will work regardless of translation
08:49:52 <warlord> ... assuming your transactions are properly marked.
08:51:03 <fell> ... and closing books with 2.4 will mark them?
08:51:34 <warlord> Yes
08:51:53 <warlord> (Closing book with 2.3.x as recent as March 2010 will mark them)
09:00:52 <kimmo> is there a way to mark a transaction a ClosingTxn other than Close Books-action?
09:01:38 <warlord> Through the UI? No
09:02:45 <warlord> Currently only the Close Books operation will mark it.
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11:28:52 <warlord> @op linas
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12:42:39 <dwhite> Is there a way to "unprocess" a transaction? An invoice that one of my clients paid, and I processed, needs to be un-processed, because my client's check bounced.
12:45:08 <warlord> dwhite: delete the payment transaction..
12:46:43 <dwhite> ... and at that point, will the invoice automatically show is unpaid?
12:47:29 <dwhite> (having just followed your instructions and then checking, I've found the answer is "yes")
12:47:35 <dwhite> Thanks
12:47:51 <warlord> dwhite: yes
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15:14:19 <blathijs> warlord: Do you know what's the plan for GTKHTML support?
15:14:41 <warlord> My guess is that it will go away.
15:14:50 <warlord> why?
15:14:53 <blathijs> warlord: In particular, do reports still need to support GTKHTML or can we assume webkit for 2.4.0? :-)
15:15:07 <warlord> Ah, for 2.4.x you need to still support GtkHTML
15:15:49 <blathijs> I'm fiddling with the eguile balance sheet report, which has a fancy two-column mode. But the two columns aren't spaced properly (the left column is as small as possible, leading to unwanted linebreaks)
15:16:15 <blathijs> I thought of an elegant way to control the one/two/auto column mode using CSS, but I guess that won't fly, then :-)
15:16:36 <warlord> You can use it, just make it conditional of the usage
15:17:12 <blathijs> warlord: Yeah, but that will break two-column view on GtkHTML
15:17:17 <blathijs> (or one-column view, not sure)
15:19:18 <warlord> Who cares? Print something out saying "if you don't like how this report looks, compile GnuCash with WebKit support"
15:19:31 <warlord> ... it should still *work*.. It doesn't have to look pretty.
15:19:41 <warlord> Er, it "just" doesn't
15:33:18 <blathijs> Ah :-)
15:33:32 <blathijs> And I guess such a message could go without translation as well?
15:33:50 <warlord> No, all user-visible messages should be translated.
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18:25:44 <mythicalbox> hello, can anyone point me to a simple explanation on how to download an ofx file programatically?
18:27:10 <warlord> mythicalbox: using what language/tools?
18:28:12 <mythicalbox> i'd like to use c# but i can probably follow an example in php or something similar
18:28:50 <warlord> Well, let me rephrase -- how is downloading an ofx programatically any different than downloading any other file programatically?
18:29:30 <mythicalbox> ah, well, i suppose it's not, i just need a few tips on what url to connect to, and how to auth and request the file
18:30:05 <warlord> That would be the $64k question
18:30:35 <mythicalbox> i just downloaded the OFX pdf spec.. i'll poke through it, any examples would be helpful though :)
18:31:02 <warlord> WHat exactly are you trying to do?
18:31:24 <mythicalbox> download a list of transactions from my BOFA account for my code to sift through
18:31:41 <warlord> there is an ofx.py floating around somewhere
18:32:35 <mythicalbox> is it basically just an HTTP post to the urls on this page: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings ?
18:32:40 <mythicalbox> with the right post variables of course
18:33:09 <warlord> I'm not sure.
18:33:14 <warlord> Possibly
18:33:26 <mythicalbox> *nod*
18:33:31 <mythicalbox> okay.. i'm going to just try it :)
18:35:37 <warlord> ok.
18:36:01 <jsled> but what would the "right post variables" [sic] be?
18:36:22 <warlord> Like I said, there *is* an ofx.py script floating around the net. Or you can look at the AqB code for the OFX-DC code.
18:36:30 <mythicalbox> jsled: i'm not sure, i'm trying the ones listed on page 599 on in the OFX spec
18:36:39 <mythicalbox> warlord: will do next, :)
18:47:20 <warlord> jsled: did you get much snow?
18:48:00 <jsled> warlord: not too much, where we are. just a couple of inches, though it's stuck around pretty solidly
18:48:23 <jsled> away from the lake I've read tweets talking about tens of inches.
18:48:33 <warlord> Wow.
18:49:03 <jsled> well, not like 30 or 40 … 10-20, of course. :)
18:53:21 <warlord> still, that's still 1-2 feet in a short period of time
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20:59:46 <mythicalbox> sweet, i've received OFX data back from bofa :) (though it was an error code: http://pastebin.ca/2025090)
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