2010-12-15 GnuCash IRC logs
00:05:29 <brushb> i use fedora and no aqbanking docs or pdf here
00:06:07 <brushb> I see an older version of opensuse that has the pdf, but as you noted it is not in english!
00:07:02 <brushb> browsing the source tar i didn't see anything but english..
00:10:39 <Buglouse> The source does not have much info, did not check extencivly, just share/docs.
00:13:20 <Buglouse> yeah, I found it odd that source was English with only 'po'.
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00:26:03 <brushb> I copied all the text from the pdf and pasted into google translate, pretty boring stuff, nothing you didn't know already.. some of it didn't translate at all
00:26:10 <brushb> don't know what to do
00:26:20 <brushb> best of luck
00:28:32 <Buglouse> Hey, thanks for trying. I was looking @ that as only option.
00:28:35 <Buglouse> Roger.
00:28:41 <Buglouse> That is the point.
00:28:45 <Buglouse> wrong
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00:48:04 <Buglouse> Should I be looking for adduser -m 0 -s www.hora-obscura.de/pintan/PinTanServlet -b 80007777 -u gnucash
00:48:07 <Buglouse> sry
00:48:14 <Buglouse> Should I be looking for gwenhywfar
00:48:19 <Buglouse> instead
00:51:57 <Buglouse> And source is in english? What is this, some evil prank?!? Loosed documentation, only source in en. I guess what I know I am doing the rest of the evening...
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09:22:24 <fell> warlord: Shouldn't in src/business/business-ledger/gncEntryLedgerControl.c:179ff "an Account" have supplements " Receivable" and " Payable"?
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09:22:53 <warlord> fell: 179ff?
09:22:59 <fell> lines
09:23:42 <blathijs> Just line 179, it seems
09:24:15 <warlord> yeah, I figured that blathijs
09:24:24 <warlord> fell: no, if anything that would be "an Income Account" or "an Expense Account"
09:24:39 <warlord> But.. it's not /quite/ limited to Income or Expense; you can use Asset & Liability as well.
09:27:37 <fell> The test is on ENTRY_IACCT_CELL (invoice) or bill/voucher
09:30:19 <fell> If we can not specify the account, we should remove the format string construction in line 153, because it is difficult for translators.
09:30:33 <fell> account type
09:32:17 <fell> FYI in old versions you differenced tax accounts from others.
09:40:45 <warlord> Where is it combined with other types? The string just says "an Account".
09:41:22 <warlord> The translation currently is always "an Account"
09:44:00 <fell> sorry, I meant: If we can not specify the account type, ...
09:48:21 <fell> The translation problem is the following: If I have to translate "an Account" I will assume it is the nominative form, but it is an object phrase, which would be accusative or prbably dative, which might be different fom nominative in other languages.
09:48:58 <warlord> Yeah, I understand the translation problem. I don't know the right fix here.
09:51:46 <fell> So if we can not specify the accout type more precise, the string in line 153 should be "Invalid Entry: You need to supply an account."
09:52:04 <fell> and the parameter can be removed.
09:54:44 <warlord> fell: well, you could base it off the cell_name and remove the cell_msg parameter?
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10:36:31 <fell> warlord: Yes, as gnc_entry_ledger_verify_acc_cell_ok is always called with the same string, I can move the string inside the function.
10:37:09 <warlord> Right. I think originally they WERE different strings, but it was confusing because it wasn't complete. I think it would be better to say "Income" or "Expense" accounts..
10:39:50 <fell> I saw in an old version, you checked the tax account also with this function, but that check moved in the taxtable dialog later, I assume.
10:43:15 <warlord> I don't recall. It's been a very long time since I touched this code.
10:43:30 <fell> In the "normal case" it would be Income or Expense, but the invoice dialog allows other accounts too - for good reasons I assume.
10:45:02 <warlord> Right... Which it why, I think, the string was changed.
10:46:55 <fell> So I will file my patch for after string freeze is lifted.
10:49:22 <warlord> Okay.
10:49:43 <warlord> Which reminds me, I need to add some APIs for "xaccTransIsClosingTxn()",...
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11:15:00 <fell> warlord: https://lists.gnucash.org/search/ doesn't list the last lt.po thread. Again an index problem?
11:15:12 <warlord> Could be.
11:15:45 <warlord> We really should just outsource to google or sometihng, if we could design it.
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11:38:47 <Buglouse> Question still stands. Where to find English documentation for (aqbanking4).
11:40:05 <fell> Buglouse: Probably you should ask Martin at aquamaniac.de
11:40:47 <fell> You read the aqbanking page in our wiki?
11:41:59 <fell> and my question still stands, too. Are you trying ofx or hbci or what?
11:43:52 <warlord> Buglouse: I suggest you ask the AqB people.
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12:01:45 <Buglouse> The wiki really only covers GUI account setup. (No gui compiled).
12:05:56 <warlord> Buglouse: Have you tried asking on #aqbanking on freenode?
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12:18:26 <Buglouse> empty.
12:19:51 <warlord> Huh, odd, they used to hang out there.
12:20:19 <warlord> Seriously, I'm sorry we can't help, but we didn't write AqB, we only use it.. And the devs who integrated the libraries are German.
12:20:42 <warlord> I'd happily help you if I could, but frankly I don't think we can help you.
12:20:53 <warlord> I suggest you subscribe to and ask on the AqB mailing lists.
12:23:39 <Buglouse> I have, does not help much. very little in my native tongue. I will find documentation, I just thought that GNUCash people would have a better picture than I of were to find what I am looking for.
12:24:05 <warlord> Did you ask your question(s) in English?
12:24:20 <warlord> Nope, we don't touch any commandline stuff from AqB
12:24:26 <Buglouse> I have not asked on the mailing list yet, only attempted to read it.
12:24:37 <warlord> Yeah, that's your problem. Go ask there.
12:24:42 <warlord> They will respond in English
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14:07:13 <Karen_m> is there a way to NOT require an address for a customer? all of my customers just have a company name, and never provide the address and it's a bit crazy calling them up when i don't need the address, only for gnucash
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14:10:53 <jel> Which accounts do I transfer from/to for accounts receivable?
14:10:57 <warlord> Karen_m: Enter in arbitrary data?
14:11:08 <Karen_m> and then when I print the invoice it's there?
14:11:11 <warlord> (the requirement for entering non-empty data is hard-coded)
14:11:13 <jel> AR -> sales, I suppose, but ?? -> AR?
14:11:29 <warlord> Karen_m: yes, but you could just put in " " (a space)
14:11:34 <warlord> it just needs to be non-empty
14:12:12 <warlord> jel: It would be Sales->AR and then AR->Bank. But don't use A/Receivable accounts without using the biz features, which do it all for you
14:13:01 <jel> warlord, ahh, that makes sense. Thanks.
14:16:03 <warlord> you're welcome.
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14:43:17 <Karen_m> thanks, using a space worked
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15:06:00 <warlord> @op linas_
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16:51:21 <warlord> @op linas__
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20:48:57 * warlord is trying to remember how to unset/delete a kvp
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20:59:50 <warlord> Aha.. kvp_frame_replace_value_nc() with a NULL value.
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