2010-12-14 GnuCash IRC logs

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06:06:36 <Legba> Hi, I'm just starting to use GnuCash on Windows, and I've got a bunch of questions if anyone has the time to answer.
06:07:10 <kimmo> ask ahead
06:07:17 <Legba> I'm looking at the Wiki and FAQ at the moment but I hope I can throw a few questions out here when I get stumped.
06:07:26 <Legba> Thanks.
06:08:17 <Legba> I'm trying to localise my install for Norwegian accounts. I've got hold of a language file, no.po, but I can't find the folder to put that file in.
06:09:44 <Legba> The wiki says to look for a po/glossary directory but I can't find it. Am I looking for the right thing and if so where can I find it?
06:12:45 <kimmo> there should be a directory with lots of .po files
06:15:52 <kimmo> look for a "gnucash.mo" file
06:18:09 <Legba> Ok, I found a bunch of gnucash.mo files
06:18:30 <Legba> Looks like one per language
06:20:10 <Legba> Ah, ok. There's a bunch of folder (kn, ko, ku, li, lt, lv) that I'm assuming correspond to a language.
06:20:41 <Legba> Each folder contains a folder called LC_MESSAGES which contains a bunch of .mo files
06:22:44 <Legba> Does this mean that the .po file won't work, and I need something specific for Windows?
06:24:57 <Legba> Okay, I think I read the Wiki wrong, and what I was reading was meant for translators, not for end users.
06:25:03 <fell> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_I_want_to_use_GnuCash_in_my_own_language
06:26:40 <Legba> Ah, thanks.
06:28:41 <Legba> I don't see a locale/no folder, so I guess GnuCash doesn't have a norwegian bokmål translation. There's a locale/nn, but I'd rather use English than new norwegian, so I think I'll just stick with the default.
06:28:48 <Legba> Thanks
06:31:47 <Legba> Second question: I need to add the info on http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Accounting_your_Business_in_Norway to a .log file and add it to my accounts.
06:32:25 <fell> there is a nb (Norwegian bokmaal)
06:32:44 <Legba> Oh!
06:32:48 <Legba> Sweet.
06:33:02 <Legba> Thanks. :D
06:33:59 <fell> But it is from 2007. We need a new translato, it seems.
06:34:07 <fell> translator
06:34:38 <Legba> Will it not work if I activate it?
06:35:05 <Legba> I'll give it a go and see what happens
06:35:06 <fell> It will work, but some strings will be untranslated.
06:35:17 <Legba> So I'll get some English in my Norwegian?
06:35:23 <fell> yep
06:35:27 <Legba> I can live with that
06:35:42 <Legba> Perhaps I can look at getting it up to date too
06:35:55 <Legba> Down the line when I have time to look into it.
06:36:08 <Legba> Thanks for the help.
06:36:23 <fell> As you read the translation page before, you know everything. ;-)
06:36:28 <Legba> Haha
06:36:43 <Legba> I should be so lucky. :)
06:36:50 <Legba> BRB
06:58:01 <fell> FYI: 560 fuzzy and 256 missing translations, while 3152 are translated.
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08:04:42 <Legba> Back.
08:04:46 <Legba> I guess that was somewhat more than a BRB.
08:06:03 <Legba> So I'm having trouble with the .log file I want to add. When I try to use the "replay GnuCash .log file" option, it gives me an error saying "The log file you selected cannot be read. The file header was not recognized."
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08:06:31 <Legba> I copied and pasted it from http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Accounting_your_Business_in_Norway, so what am I missing?
08:06:37 <Legba> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Accounting_your_Business_in_Norway ,
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08:16:50 <warlorc> Legba: I thought norwegian bokmål was LANG=nb?
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08:17:52 <warlord> Legba: Log files are not generic; you cannot copy a log file from somewhere else and replay it.
08:18:07 <warlord> You can only replay log files created during your process of entering transactions
08:18:17 <Legba> Ah
08:18:22 <warlord> and even then, you can only replay a log file when ALL you've done is enter in regular transactions.
08:18:31 <Legba> So how do I add the .log file?
08:18:35 <warlord> If you've made any business entries or changes to accounts, you cannot replay it.
08:18:42 <warlord> Why are you trying to add a .log file?
08:19:04 <Legba> I'm trying to add the accounts listed here: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Accounting_your_Business_in_Norway
08:19:24 <Legba> It says there that the XML can be added into a .log file and opened from within GnuCash.
08:20:03 <warlord> ( reading )
08:21:20 <warlord> Oh, that's not a log file, that's an actual DATA file.
08:21:26 <warlord> Those instructions are wrong.
08:21:32 <Legba> Ah
08:22:08 <Legba> So I should save it as a .data file?
08:22:12 <fell> Hm, I believe you should copy it into a norwegian template directory, if it exists
08:22:23 <warlord> What would be better is if it were a gnucash-xea file; then you could place it into your accounts tree and add a new hierarchy.
08:22:35 <warlord> fell: except it's not a template format, either.
08:23:36 <Legba> Sorry, I'm not very familiar with this at all. Could you break it down into steps for me?
08:24:41 <Legba> What format should I save the file as, and do I need to put it anywhere in particular or do I simply have to load it from within GnuCash?
08:24:50 <warlord> Sure. Look in the 'accounts' directory of gnucash.
08:24:54 <warlord> Open up one of the xea files.
08:25:12 <warlord> Notice there is an extra level of XML wrapping, compared to the data file online.
08:25:32 <warlord> wrap the data file in that extra 'xea' formatting, and drop it in place in your accounts tree.
08:25:56 <warlord> The File -> New -> New Account Hierarchy
08:26:15 <fell> in accounts/nb acctchrt_kontenplan.gnucash-xea
08:27:28 <warlord> fell: The only reason I didn't suggest accounts/nb is that if it exists then it completely overrides accounts/C, which means future New File operatoins will ONLY show the kontenplan file
08:28:15 <Legba> I don't actually see an accounts folder. Do I have to save a set of accounts in order to create it?
08:28:24 <fell> Why should it override accounts/C?
08:28:57 <Legba> Found it
08:28:58 <fell> we have an accouts/nb with many files
08:29:21 <Legba> It was gnucash/share/gnucash/accounts
08:30:06 <warlord> fell: because that's how it works. If you create a new accounts/xx folder and put one file in it, then if you're in locale xx then you'll only see that one file.
08:30:47 <warlord> In this case you're right, it can go into accounts/nb because it already exists. However Legba you do need to convert the file from its current format into an xea format.
08:30:50 <fell> Legba: yep, but that depends on your OS/distro
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08:33:26 <Legba> Ok, I'm looking at one of the xea files now, accthrt_spouseretire.gnucash-xea.
08:34:04 <Legba> Is what I want the <gnc-account-example> tag?
08:35:18 <Legba> Or do I need more?
08:35:42 <fell> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/AccountHierarchyTemplate
08:36:28 <fell> and http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Translation#How_to_translate_the_files_containing_the_new_account_hierarchies
08:37:13 <Legba> Hmm
08:37:41 <Legba> I'm wondering if it wouldn't be simpler to simply recreate the hierarchy described by hand. :p
08:39:55 <fell> If you help me, we can put it in the teplate folders for new releases.
08:40:17 <Legba> How can I help?
08:41:38 <Legba> I'm giving it a gander.
08:41:39 <fell> I would need a more decriptive filename, a title, a short description and a long description
08:58:52 <Legba> I'm on a web client, I don't think I can accept a DCC
08:59:16 <warlord> Legba: You could use pastebin?
08:59:36 <Legba> Not sure what that is
08:59:51 <Legba> But I assume so
08:59:58 <fell> OK, I will update the wiki page. It is too big for pastebin.ca 162k>150k
09:01:50 <Legba> Cool, thanks.
09:02:03 <Legba> The http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Kontoplan page?
09:03:30 <fell> yep, done.
09:04:55 <fell> can you a) test it, b) update the missing descriptions in that page?
09:06:25 <Legba> Sure thing
09:07:31 <Legba> Soon as I get it running.
09:13:49 <Legba> Hmm
09:13:55 <Legba> So I used nb as my language
09:13:58 <Legba> And that seems to have worked
09:14:08 <Legba> I'm reading things in Norwegian, no problem.
09:14:25 <Legba> But when I get to the part about account types to add
09:14:28 <Legba> There's nothing there
09:14:44 <warlord> Legba: File -> New -> New Account Hierarchy ??
09:15:14 <Legba> yup
09:15:21 <Legba> There's nothing listed under categories
09:15:25 <Legba> Or account types
09:15:49 <Legba> Changing it over to Norwegian makes it a bit awkward to describe. :p
09:16:19 <fell> start "gnucash --nofile", then "File -> New -> New Account Hierarchy"
09:18:23 <Legba> No such luck
09:18:27 <Legba> the list is still empty.
09:19:38 <fell> Hm, I have to install nb support to see, what you see.
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09:37:48 <fell> warlord: * 15:30:03 WARN <Gtk> Locale not supported by C library. -What am I missing?
09:37:56 <warlord> fell: You're on Ubuntu?
09:38:05 <fell> suse
09:38:09 <warlord> Oh, Hmm..
09:38:17 <warlord> It seems to imply the locale isn't installed.
09:45:16 <fell> warlord: gtk-lang was missing.
09:45:24 <warlord> oh.
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09:46:37 <fell> Legba: Kategorier is empty.
09:47:40 <fell> Iremember, I had that before in another language. What was missing?
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09:49:37 <Legba> Yeah, that's the error I had
09:49:44 <Legba> Just nothing there to pick from
09:49:47 <Legba> But the folder is full
09:50:00 <Legba> *full of files
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09:53:28 <fell> Ah: <gnc:count-data> not allowed in current context. ...
09:53:42 <fell> <gnc:commodity> not allowed in current context.
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10:00:28 <warlord> Eh? Commodity not allowed?
10:01:35 <fell> not in templates
10:02:16 <fell> I can not say in the template check the fx rate NOK-EUR.
10:03:31 <warlord> Oh, yeah, that you can't do.
10:14:09 <fell> next bug in the file:
10:14:10 <fell> * 16:12:40 CRIT <Gtk> gtk_text_buffer_set_text: assertion `text != NULL' failed
10:14:12 <fell> * 16:12:40 CRIT <gnc.gui> gnc_tree_model_account_iter_n_children: assertion `iter->user_data != ((void *)0)' failed
10:16:27 <warlord> Missing some text, obviously. Not sure which text is missing.
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10:43:44 <fell> No, I used <> inside the description . Slap!
10:44:39 <Legba> Doh?
10:44:56 <warlord> Oh. OOPS!
10:49:31 <fell> Legba, can you download and test the file again?
10:49:37 <Legba> Sure thing
10:54:11 <Legba> There we go
10:54:19 <Legba> The list is populated now
10:54:38 <Legba> Hmm
10:55:40 <fell> The name in the list should be?
10:55:59 <Legba> Hang on
10:56:04 <Legba> I'm trying to figure out exactly what it contains
10:56:10 <Legba> I thought it was going to be MVA but...
10:57:05 <Legba> It's the one called "business", right?
10:57:19 <fell> The short description in the list and the long description below the list as it is selected ...
10:57:22 <fell> right
10:57:27 <Legba> Yeah
10:58:33 <Legba> That's weird. I thought it was going to be the sheet for VAT accounting
10:58:48 <Legba> But it seems to just contain two accounts, possession and liquidity
10:59:49 <Legba> Maybe there's still an error in the document?
11:00:03 <fell> did you select common or not? there should be over 100 accounts.
11:00:19 <Legba> No, I only selected the business sheet
11:00:35 <Legba> Trying it again to make sure
11:01:24 <Legba> Yeah, when I select "business", it lists "accounts in 'business'" and it only contains those two.
11:01:40 <Legba> Eiendeler and likviditet
11:01:51 <Legba> And likviditet is a sub account of eiendeler
11:01:55 <Legba> *likviditeter
11:04:59 <fell> but they have many subaccounts - klcik on the left triangle.
11:05:20 <Legba> Oh!
11:05:24 <Legba> Sorry
11:05:35 <Legba> All of these are from this one file?
11:05:47 <fell> yes
11:05:56 <Legba> My bad
11:06:33 <Legba> Hmm. Okay, so that makes it slightly awkward to know exactly what to select here to use. :p
11:06:57 <Legba> I thought the "business" account would include all the things that the English version did.
11:07:34 <Legba> Okay, instead of business it should probably be called "bedrift"
11:09:41 <Legba> This is actually a bit of a downer. I was hoping that it'd already be fully formed so I could use a proven template to do my business accounts. It looks like I'm going to have to build it myself.
11:10:11 <Legba> Which I don't feel the least bit qualified for. That's why I'm looking at accounting software. :p
11:13:35 <fell> The dutch guy from Trondheim, whichs website is named in the long description made this. you could ask him.
11:13:57 <Legba> Good idea
11:13:58 <Legba> Thanks.
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11:20:12 <Legba> Okay, I'm done with another day at the office
11:20:20 <Legba> Going to give this another go tomorrow
11:20:20 <Legba> Thanks for the help guys.
11:20:23 <warlord> Legba: it's possible that the account set is justa sub-set
11:20:40 <warlord> Sort of like how in the English set, Business is just a subset. You still need the "common" accounts.
11:20:47 <Legba> Ah
11:21:21 <Legba> But the common accounts includes a whole lot of things that don't really apply.
11:21:25 <Legba> Anyway I'll check it out tomorrow
11:21:28 <Legba> Thanks again.
11:21:36 <warlord> Sure, but adding/removing accounts is easy.
11:21:42 <warlord> If they don't apply, don't use them
11:21:49 <warlord> If you need a couple more, just create them
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11:44:15 <fell> @tell Legba There is also a template Nærings Kontoer, can you pls check the difference?
11:44:15 <gncbot> fell: The operation succeeded.
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13:16:39 <rocky> i'm having difficulties understanding "process payment" ...
13:16:53 <rocky> if i "process payment" on an invoice... no money is showing up in the transfer account
13:16:54 <rocky> is that normal?
13:18:03 <blathijs> rocky: There should be a transaction from the transfer account to the corresponding A/P or A/R account I think
13:22:30 <rocky> blathijs, ok so each item on my invoice is slated with "Income Account" as "USD Consulting" ...
13:22:40 <rocky> in the USD currency
13:22:46 <rocky> (i'm not american, btw lol)
13:23:38 <blathijs> Uh, not sure what you mean there
13:24:06 <rocky> blathijs, i have two problems... first of all my invoices are in USD ... but when the client makes payments it is wired from a USD bank account to a CAD bank account (automatic currency conversion) and i'm trying to record this properly in gnucash
13:24:22 <blathijs> what happens is the following: When you post an invoice, a transaction is created to moves money between the A/P or A/R account and the income / expense accounts for each invoice line
13:24:22 <rocky> so there's a discrepancy
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13:24:51 <blathijs> when you pay an invoice, money is moved between the transfer account (e.g., your bank account) and the A/P or A/R account
13:25:09 <blathijs> when both of these have happened, the A/P or A/R account balances to 0 again
13:26:06 <blathijs> rocky: Hmm, I'm not exactly sure how that would work, with payments in different currencies
13:28:33 <rocky> blathijs, i saw a few references online that talked about using an intermediary account but the examples weren't full enough to really step me through what i needed :/
13:29:07 <blathijs> rocky: I just tried, when I process a payment for an invoice in one currency against a transfer account in another currency, I just get a popup that asks for the conversion rate
13:29:29 <blathijs> rocky: But that is using a very recent SVN trunk version, perhaps the version you're using doesn't have that yet
13:29:45 <blathijs> rocky: What are you trying and what is happening?
13:31:34 <rocky> blathijs, ok, so my income account is "USD Consulting" and my A/R is "USD Accounts Receivable" ... both of which are in USD
13:31:40 <rocky> i've posted two invoices now using those
13:32:32 <rocky> i then make two invoices payments for each with my "Post" account being "USD Accounts Receivable" and my Transfer account being "USD to CAD Intermediary" ...
13:32:57 <rocky> blathijs, i guess the next step would be to a currency based transfer from "USD to CAD intermediary" to my "CAD Checking" account
13:33:16 <rocky> where i reconcile the discrepancy ?
13:33:45 <rocky> (i lose $30 CAD during the currency conversion)
13:36:36 <blathijs> rocky: Did you try doing a payment directly against your CAD Checking account?
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13:38:58 <rocky> blathijs, i didn't... but i just got it to work by doing what i said... perhaps i'm making it too complicated?
13:39:13 <fldavem> I want to use gnucash and according to quicken website, I should be able to direct-connect (AqBanking) to get my accounts, but I've not been successful. I can create users for my banks, and press the Get Accounts and lots of data shows up BUT I never get any accounts. Can anyone help?
13:39:35 <blathijs> rocky: You should try it now, perhaps. If you can leave out the intermediary account, all the simpler, right?
13:44:53 <rocky> right
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14:09:34 <warlord> fldavem: Have you looked at the OFX-DC Wiki page?
14:10:07 <warlord> rocky: What version of GnuCash.. In 2.2.x you have to use a common currency for all your transactions, which means your A/R, Income, and Asset accounts must all be the same (USD, in this case).
14:10:21 <warlord> Then you can manually move from USD->CAD after you process payment.
14:10:50 <warlord> I believe that in 2.3/2.4 there is a means to add an exchange rate to process payment so you should be able to go directly from a USD A/R to a CAD Bank
14:14:25 <fldavem> warlord: I looked at some pages, but maybe not that one lately. I'll try it, thanks.
14:16:35 <fldavem> warlord: Actually, I did look at http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings. It didn't have my banks, but quicken definitely has direct-connect for them (I can get the link they told me to look them up). I used the data from: http://www.ofxhome.com/index.php to get the variables.
14:17:04 <fldavem> warlord: and it did parse some OFX data, but no accounts came up.
14:18:06 <fldavem> The link for the banks, as supplied by quicken, is http://web.intuit.com/personal/quicken/search.cfm?type=basic and it's also on that ofx home page.
14:18:34 <warlord> Well, you could turn on more OFX-DC debugging to see what might be missing?
14:21:13 <rocky> warlord, yeah that's what i'm using the intermediay account for... v2.2.9
14:21:23 <warlord> in 2.2.9 you need to do that.
14:21:50 <rocky> cool, i'm doing things right then (this is on ubuntu maverick)
14:22:00 <rocky> i now have all my accounts reconciled properly :)
14:22:04 <warlord> good
14:22:22 <rocky> the challenge is remembering to do all these steps when i'm sober next time *grin*
14:22:24 <fldavem> If quicken says it's got dc, but the AqBanking doesn't show anything in the Online Banking in the User Config, should that tell me I can't do it?
14:23:56 <fldavem> warlord: OFX-DC debugging? How do I turn that on in the windows build?
14:24:38 <warlord> Quicken doesn't use AqB.. And Intuit has a deal with the banks so they have insider knowledge.
14:24:43 <warlord> I dont know, I don't use OFX
14:25:30 <rocky> warlord, ^^ :)
14:25:56 <warlord> rocky: :-P
14:29:17 <fldavem> What is the most common way to setup bank accoutns? Download the QIF from each institution when you want the latest transactions? Won't that lead to a lot of duplicates if your bank only lets you download a whole month at a time (and you try several times in a month)?
14:31:58 <warlord> fldavem: I enter all my transactions by hand, as I incur them. Then when I get my monthly statement I reconcile the account vs. the statement.
14:32:09 <warlord> If you download your transactions then you have very little chance of catching a bank error.
14:36:45 <fldavem> Makes sense, thanks.
14:45:55 <warlord> no prob
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16:00:02 <gary> hi, can someone explain how I should correctly account for VAT? I'm trying to work through the whole process, but it's starting to confuse me!
16:00:16 <gary> Currently I get this far and this part seems correct:
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16:00:45 <gary> I raise an invoice, each entry on my invoice is associated with a tax table for VAT.
16:01:47 <gary> When I post the invoice, I get the amount of my invoice without VAT into Income:Sales:UK, I get the amount of VAT into VAT:Output:Sales
16:02:02 <gary> Obviously the total to accounts receivable.
16:02:16 <gary> Again, this makes sense.
16:03:01 <gary> When my invoice is paid, I mark the invoice as paid and I get a transaction that moves the total from accounts receivable into my current account.
16:03:29 <warlord> That sounds correct so far.
16:03:43 <gary> So at this point, I have the total in my current account, I have some income for the work i've done, and I have a negative expense for the VAT
16:04:29 <gary> Now, when it comes to paying my VAT... i'm confused.
16:05:25 <gary> The first time I did it, I created an expense in my normal expenses for the amount of VAT I need to pay, that moved money from my current account to the expense.
16:06:38 <gary> When I do that, my current account it reduced by the VAT amount, my expenses are increased by the VAT amount, but my VAT account still has a nagative expense, because i've not done anything with it.
16:07:14 <gary> I think this is wrong because I think my negative expense in my VAT account, is kinda cancelling out the expense in my expenses account.
16:07:38 <gary> Sorry i'm not explaining that too well :(
16:08:04 <warlord> When you pay the VAT you need to pay to a contra-account that sits next to the collected-VAT account.
16:08:24 <warlord> VAT, technically, isn't an expense. You're just passing it through.
16:08:34 <warlord> (at least I dont think so.. IANAA)
16:11:40 <gary> So, something to cancel out the VAT as such (so that it's not an income and it's not an expense), but so that I can easily use the VAT account to report on and actually calculate my VAT returns?
16:11:53 <warlord> Yep
16:12:02 <warlord> Did you read the wiki/FAQ?
16:13:18 <gary> I've read it about 3-4 times over the last few months sinc ei've had to account for VAT and unless i'm reading the wrong part of the wiki/FAQ, it either confused me more as what it suggested didn't seem to match up with what I had, or it made little sense :(
16:15:19 <warlord> Hm
16:15:34 <warlord> Well, it is a wiki; once you understand it you can clarify it for the next guy
16:15:35 <gary> I even found some other wiki that gives lots of nice examples and screenshots on things on creating customers/vendors, creating a tax table, creating an invoice/bill with tax on, raising a bill, but then the last three sections are currently empty, which detail raising an invoice, and reporting for VAT purposes.
16:16:06 <gary> So up to the point I am at now, I can at least confirm that what I have matches what they were doing on there. Which almost suggests I hae some idea of what i'm doing :)
16:18:02 <blathijs> gary: One of the problems is that vat reporting can be subtly different in different countries :-)
16:18:14 * gary grins and nods
16:18:48 <gary> this article was based on UK accounts. Which is what I have. It's a shame it's not finished!
16:20:00 <gary> I'm pretty sure I understand what to do now. I need to remove the extra expense that I added to my expenses and create this other account that deals with me paying for my VAT.
16:20:47 <gary> At the moment, i'm pretty sure that everything is out by the amount of VAT that I owe.
16:21:06 <gary> do to having that and a second expense that i've entered when I actually paid the VAT.
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16:21:30 <matitaccia> Hello everyone! Downloading gnucash now! :-) Let's have a look! Excited!
16:22:12 <blathijs> gary: So far, I've also done exactly as you described. Haven't actually gotten around to booking the actual VAT payment yet either :-)
16:23:43 <gary> I worked out how to calculate my VAT payment using a report. The negative amount looks vaguely confusing on the report, but I could then use the report to calculate how much I owed (i'm doing flat rate VAT, so based on the total of my sales and the VAT, I only have to pay a percentage of that back to HMRC and I get to keep the small amount that remains).
16:24:05 <gary> It's then actually accounting for this properly in GNUCash that i'm finding difficult.
16:24:17 <blathijs> sounds complicated :-)
16:24:27 <gary> it's supposed to simplify VAT
16:24:45 <gary> I have no real purchases, so it's pointless caliming VAT back on the few things that I do buy.
16:24:57 <gary> So I actually earn slightly more by being on the flat rate scheme.
16:25:02 <gary> And it's less things to account for.
16:25:15 <blathijs> gary: I was thinking about just entering a transaction directly to the VAT account, so it ends up at 0 again, but perhaps the two accounts that balance to 0 together like warlord suggests is better
16:25:20 <gary> Until I get to this stage and can't work out how to actually account for it ;)
16:26:32 * matitaccia scared from VAT discussions....
16:28:00 <warlord> matitaccia: dont be
16:28:09 <matitaccia> :-)
16:28:14 <matitaccia> setup is finished.
16:28:16 <matitaccia> :-)
16:30:41 <gary> time for me to go do something less taxing (if you'll excuse the pun) on the brain
16:30:49 <gary> have fun all ;)
16:31:32 <warlord> lol. laer gary
16:31:36 <warlord> later
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19:49:29 <Buglouse> Trying to use aqbanking-cli (independent of GNUCash). It is a challenge to find English documentation, I see there is a PDF hosted by aquamaniac.de
19:50:08 <Buglouse> , but i can not translate it. Anyone know of where to find documentation (other than the source)?
19:50:38 <Buglouse> (for the latest version, i think options have changed. I have never used this software (but have high hopes))
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20:19:10 <felle> Buglouse: what is your target?
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22:52:32 <Buglouse> That is a good question, how am I supposed to know my Target?
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23:09:47 <Buglouse> ?
23:10:21 <Buglouse> Time is passing slow .. :D
23:16:47 <brushb> what is the question?
23:20:43 <Buglouse> Where is docu?
23:26:57 <brushb> documentation for gnucash?
23:28:18 <Buglouse> for libs GNUCash is dependent on, (aqbanking) http://www.aquamaniac.de/sites/download/packages.php
23:30:00 <Buglouse> odd, readme, ext in English. Only doc Ic is foreign pdf.
23:30:09 <Buglouse> s/ext/ect/
23:32:28 <brushb> what platform are you using
23:42:28 <brushb> I don't know, i don't have a aqbanking doc package?