2010-12-05 GnuCash IRC logs
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16:47:10 <vrsa> I am trying to see if I can make gnucash work for property management
16:48:37 <vrsa> is there a way to list each property individually and be able to track mortgage, tenant, utilities, repairs etc?
16:48:49 <jsled> no
16:49:01 <jsled> well, not as first-class types as such.
16:49:55 <jsled> you could create a set of accounts per property to try to track that.
16:50:22 <vrsa> in one file? .. not a new company for each property?
16:51:10 <jsled> that would be in one file, yeah.
16:53:03 <vrsa> ok ty i will do a test before i add all the info in
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20:27:17 <csprof> I read the FAQ, but I still have a questions about using gnucash with multiple users
20:28:29 <jsled> such as?
20:28:52 <csprof> I want to store my accounts and preferences in a public folder, shared with another user using SAMBA
20:29:15 <csprof> I'm on a linux machine, and I've already set up the sharable folder
20:29:41 <csprof> I've copied the account ledger and backup files to the common folder
20:29:45 <csprof> but what about preferences?
20:30:19 <jsled> pretty much everything in edit > Preferences is stored in gconf, which is local to a machine-user
20:30:40 <jsled> alos things like window state, sizes, last open datafile, open-report details.
20:30:43 <jsled> all in gcnof.
20:30:47 <jsled> gconf, even.
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20:32:26 <csprof> OK, window state, size, last open, etc. can be local to the user, but what about all of the other gnucash preferences (accounting period, accounts, date/time, etc)
20:32:45 <jsled> pretty much everything in edit > Preferences is stored in gconf, which is local to a machine-user
20:33:26 <jsled> the account tree, transaction data, any business-features data, scheduled transactions, budgets, currencies, price quotes … all that's in the datafile
20:33:43 <jsled> if you open it up (it's xml, but might be gzip compressed), you'll be able to see what's there.
20:34:04 <csprof> So can I share the settings? Perhaps by using a symbolic link to my public folder?
20:34:48 <jsled> I doubt it, and would not recommend it.
20:35:19 <jsled> which is ironic, since gconf started out as a project for a network- and multi-user- aware configuration daemon, but … well, it's not.
20:35:26 <csprof> OK, but will two users using the same data file with difference preferences cause any problems?
20:35:53 <jsled> no, I can't really think of any that come to midn.
20:36:08 <jsled> I mean … they're mostly view or edit-default preferences.
20:36:23 <jsled> so, it's fundamentally the same data, it's just a different prefrence for veiwing or editing.
20:36:30 <csprof> different accounting periods? different account separators? different default currencies? etc.
20:37:05 <jsled> different accounting periods might affect a change to the datafile.
20:37:35 <csprof> so, we just have to synchronize our preferences by hand, and let each other know if we change anything?
20:37:50 <warlord> There are certainly some settings in Edit -> Preferences that probably do belong in the file.
20:38:04 <warlord> Really, there should be three sets of preferences:
20:38:10 <warlord> 1) User preferences (that pertain to ALL data files)
20:38:36 <warlord> 2) User, Per-Datafile preferences, (that pertain to individual data files, but still pertain only to a particular user)
20:38:51 <warlord> 3) Datafile prefs, which apply to all users of a particular data file.
20:39:28 <warlord> We do have all three types, but I think someone needs to go through and make sure each preference is stored in the right way/place.
20:39:47 <csprof> Right. With this level of granularity, it would be easier to do what I'm trying to do.
20:39:55 <warlord> #1 is in Gconf. #2 is in ~/.gnucash/... #3 is in the datafile itself.
20:40:43 <csprof> That's how it is now, or how you are saying it should be?
20:40:51 <warlord> both
20:41:13 <warlord> However, as I said, the prefernces themselves aren't properly categorized.
20:42:06 <csprof> So, as an example, if I change the account separator from ":" to "/", I can use my character, and the other user can continue to use ":" without conflict?
20:42:51 <warlord> Yes
20:43:06 <warlord> .. although you need to make sure that you don't use EITHER character in the name of any accounts.
20:43:23 <csprof> Right.
20:44:37 <csprof> How about the "compress files" option in General?
20:45:01 <csprof> or "retain log files" time?
20:45:03 <warlord> like I said, not all prefs are properly categorized.
20:46:29 <csprof> So one user might be compressing files while the other is not?
20:48:18 <warlord> Currently, that is correct.
20:48:27 <warlord> The system can read both, so nobody will notice.
20:50:02 <csprof> OK. So it sounds like just sharing the data directory will be sufficient for us both to use the same accounts. Thanks!
20:50:17 * warlord is wondering how many times he will have to repeat that not all the prefs have been properly categorized. ;)
20:50:30 <warlord> Pretty much, yes.
20:51:33 <csprof> Thanks for your help (jsled, too). Bye.
20:51:43 <warlord> later , prof
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