2010-10-07 GnuCash IRC logs

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09:21:48 <Askarii> Is it possible to use GnuCash in English, but have invoices created in french?
09:22:23 <warlord> No
09:24:44 <Askarii> not unless I modify the code
09:24:49 <Askarii> but I don't want to do that :P
09:25:16 <Askarii> thx for the quick answer :)
09:25:55 <warlord> Even modifying the code wont help, because there's no way to get the code to translate the invoice into french but not translate the rest of the UI.
09:33:39 <todd> if there is a 'FrenchInvoiceEnglishUI' translation perhaps? hehehe
09:33:56 <todd> but now I'm just being silly
09:34:17 <Askarii> nah
09:34:28 <Askarii> I translated the invoice template manually once
09:34:39 <Askarii> so I had a english Gnu-cash, but french invoice
09:34:55 <Askarii> but i'm thinking that would just cause problems when comes time to update
09:41:19 <warlord> todd, that would work, but would require building the .gmo
09:41:33 <warlord> Askarii: what you're asking for just isn't well-supported.
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09:49:02 <daedeloth> hi
09:49:13 <daedeloth> wondering if there is any progress in the field of the invoice printing?
09:52:02 <warlord> daedeloth: define "progress"
09:52:14 <daedeloth> as in "usuable already" :)
09:52:23 <warlord> It's been usable for years.
09:55:11 <daedeloth> hm, changing the font doesn't seem to work, my invoices all have a huge font for some reason
09:56:30 <warlord> what OS/Distro?
09:56:35 <warlord> and what version of GnuCash?
09:56:39 <daedeloth> debian and checking
09:56:41 <daedeloth> 64bit
09:56:54 <daedeloth> 2.2.9
09:57:01 <warlord> Yeah, the fixes aren't in 2.2
09:57:13 <warlord> Although I don't know why you're seeing a huge font on Debian
09:57:34 <daedeloth> is there any way to write plugins or something for gnucash?
09:57:40 <warlord> of course
09:57:46 <warlord> In C or Scheme.
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11:19:14 <daedeloth> how would one go to insert an invoice where I can only withdraw 50% of the vat?
11:21:44 <warlord> Sorry, I'm not in a VAT country so I'm not sure what you mean by "only withdraw 50% of the vat" and how it would affect the invoice..
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11:27:24 <daedeloth> well, basically, instead of adding the vat to the "vat to get back" (I really need to work on my english) I can only add 50%
11:27:51 <warlord> And what about the other 50%?
11:28:19 <daedeloth> euh, regular expenses I think
11:29:57 <warlord> Well, you have a couple options. 1) Have the taxtable put all of it into the VAT account and then manually transfer 50% to the expense, or 2) change the tax table to split it into "recoverable VAT" and "non-recoverable VAT"
11:30:42 <daedeloth> ah, that second option sounds nice
11:31:04 <daedeloth> so I just make a new tax table thingy with 2 accounts?
11:32:59 <warlord> Yep.
11:33:35 <warlord> But you'll have to split the tax in two. So instead of VAT 10% -> VAT Acct, you would need to do VAT 5% -> VAT Acct; VAT 5% -> VAT Expense
11:33:54 <daedeloth> ok
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11:41:20 <daedeloth> ok that worked out, thanks :)
11:48:19 <warlord> You're welcome.
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12:17:55 <Sir_Konrad> can GNUCash be used as a POS?
12:19:04 <jsled> no
12:23:53 <Sir_Konrad> jsled: what would you recommend for that?
12:24:00 <jsled> I have no recommendation
12:24:25 <Sir_Konrad> jsled: wow you type fast. :P
12:24:57 <jsled> :)
12:30:05 <mwhipple> Sir_Konrad: You may want to look at one of the Compiere spinoffs or OpenERP
12:31:38 <Sir_Konrad> ok, thanks mwhipple! :D
12:33:16 <warlord> A long long time ago there was a project GnuPOS. I have no idea if it still exists.
12:37:10 <Sir_Konrad> warlord: no, it died. :(
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16:08:29 <xi_> I modified GoldMoney.pm of Finance::Quote to allow lookups of goldgrams, which I call "goldgg". When I run: echo '(goldmoney "goldgg")' | gnc-fq-helper, it gives the output: (("goldgg" (symbol . "goldgg") (gnc:time-no-zone . "2010-10-07 12:43:23") (last . 42.9409) (currency . "USD")))
16:08:49 <xi_> however, when I try to update the quote through the Price Editor, it says it cannot retrieve that quote for goldgg
16:09:19 <xi_> any ideas what could be wrong?
16:09:29 <xi_> I tried running gnucash --debug but it doesn't give any info in gnucash.trace
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16:25:20 <warlord> Did you modify the security in the Security Editor?
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16:52:30 <xi_> what do you mean?
16:52:39 <xi_> i added it and it appears in the security editor
16:54:09 <xi_> it says 'get online quotes' from goldmoney
16:56:27 <warlord> Did you modify the security to look up the 'goldgg' symbol?
16:57:06 <xi_> yes
16:57:26 <xi_> could it be that its returning 4 decimal places (42.9409) ?
16:57:32 <xi_> should i modify that to 2 decimal places?
16:57:42 <warlord> I dont think that should matter.
16:58:02 <xi_> when I hit the "Get quotes" button, it says: unable to retrieve quotes for these items:
16:58:05 <xi_> NYSE:goldgg
16:58:32 <xi_> but gnc-fq-dump goldmoney goldgg works great
16:58:37 <warlord> Okay, and in the security editor of that security, what do you have for the quote source?
16:59:18 <xi_> i have the "unknown" button clicked, and then "goldmoney" in the drop down menu
17:01:09 <warlord> Try 'single'
17:01:28 <warlord> Or is it not in the single list?
17:01:37 <xi_> its not in that list
17:01:47 <warlord> Oh.
17:02:04 <xi_> im also performing price lookups for the "gold" symbol from goldmoney which works fine
17:02:13 <warlord> Huh
17:02:13 <xi_> its just my modified symbol goldgg doesn't work
17:02:31 <xi_> but it works in gnc-fq-dump and -helper
17:02:38 <warlord> I've never worked in that section of the code, so I'm afraid I don't really know why it might not work.
17:03:10 <xi_> is there a way to get debugging info? i've tried gnucash --debug which didn't yield anything, but maybe there's a --log option or something?
17:03:36 <warlord> There might be a logging module you could turn on higher... hang on.
17:03:45 <xi_> im using 2.2.9
17:03:46 <xi_> also
17:06:23 <warlord> There does not appear to be much debugging info available in price-quotes.scm
17:07:33 <warlord> Feel free to play with price-quotes.scm?
17:07:35 <xi_> hmm i'll look at that file
17:07:39 <xi_> thanks
17:07:48 <warlord> NP.
17:07:54 <warlord> Worst case, ask on gnucash-devel ?
17:11:21 <xi_> is that file price-quotes.scm compiled into the gnucash binary, or can I modify it on the fly?
17:11:28 <xi_> ive never messed with scm before
17:15:56 <warlord> You can modify it on the fly; just need to restart the app
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17:50:29 <xi_> ah, the problem seems to be when requesting more than 1 quote at once
17:50:42 <xi_> echo '(goldmoney "goldgg")' | gnc-fq-helper works ok
17:50:44 <xi_> but
17:50:49 <xi_> echo '(goldmoney "goldgg" "gold")' | gnc-fq-helper works ok
17:50:54 <xi_> produces an error for goldgg
17:50:57 <xi_> strange
17:53:05 <warlord> That could do it.
17:53:40 <xi_> i think i know what i screwed up
17:54:01 <warlord> ok
17:56:12 <xi_> fixed! thanks a lot warlord
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