2010-09-28 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:35:52 <BentSpace> Hello
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00:37:11 <BentSpace> Is there a way to have GnuCash automatically download new transactions from financial institution websites, please?
00:43:41 <jsled> there's QIF import, but that's not very automatic. OFX Direct Connect is the closest to what you're asking for.
00:51:27 <BentSpace> Does OFX Direct Connect work with most banks and such?
00:52:33 <jsled> Many, I'd say. See http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings and http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Setting_up_OFXDirectConnect_in_GnuCash_2#Where_to_find_connection_info
00:54:42 <BentSpace> Thank you, is that the full list of compatible institutions on the Settings pages or are there others?
00:55:01 <jsled> that's not an exclusive list, no.
00:55:13 <jsled> it's the list people have bothered to add details for to the wiki
00:56:18 <BentSpace> Do websites like Mint use the same system to download transactions?
00:56:34 <jsled> I doubt it, but I don't know.
01:09:55 <BentSpace> I'm new to GnuCash and Financial software in general, what's the best way to use it, manually recording transactions vs automatically importing, etc?
01:18:09 <BentSpace> jsled, do you use the OFX Direct Connect feature?
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05:31:22 <seyfi> Are book and register the same thing?
05:32:42 <seyfi> add ledger and journal to that list, if anyone cares to give an comprehensive explanation
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05:57:45 <kimmo> seyfi, they are used pretty much interchangeable across the accounting literature
05:58:06 <kimmo> there are variations in the nuances however
05:58:56 <kimmo> but without context they are pretty much the same
06:03:10 <seyfi> kimmo: I understand journal and ledger are types of books/registers. Correct?
06:13:08 <kimmo> yes, in a way
06:15:01 <kimmo> This is my take on the terminology: "Books" is the term that means all bookkeeping material. A ledger (a.k.a. Journal) is the order-by-date list of all transactions. A register is an ordered-by-date list of transactions in a single account
06:16:19 <kimmo> and I prefer Ledger over Journal, as in Finland Journal is used official translations to refer to a single entry bookkeeping ledger
06:16:36 <kimmo> then again, it depends on the context
06:17:19 <seyfi> thank you
06:17:42 <kimmo> no prob
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09:31:26 <svetoslav> Hi, this is a gnucash data file http://mysoftware.hit.bg/TestDnevnici.xml (I changed extention to xml). Why can't I view it properly in browsers? I guess some problem with encoding ? I can see it in kate text editor though.
09:33:04 <svetoslav> I'm trying to make simple mono project, which tries to read data from this file using XmlTextReader class, but when I call the Read() method, compiler sais "invalid data" ...
09:33:37 <svetoslav> how can I fix this ...
09:34:49 <jsled> it's gzip compressed, as is.
09:34:55 <jsled> but the server is serving it up as text/xml.
09:35:36 <jsled> either turn off the compression preference and re-save, run it through gunzip, or wrap your reader in some sort of <paraphrase>GunzipReader</>
09:36:13 <svetoslav> hm, why kate opens it ?
09:36:19 <svetoslav> it decompresses it first ?
09:36:45 <warlord> svetoslav: probably
09:38:31 <svetoslav> yeah I turned off compress option and it works , thanks ;>
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11:58:43 <Sir_Konrad> HereCas: o/
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12:28:24 <Sir_Konrad> when is GNUCash 3.0 coming out?
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12:30:32 <Sir_Konrad> I know, I know... when it's ready. :P
12:30:59 <Sir_Konrad> But I think I'm going to switch over to GNUCash on Windows or Linux. The Mac version has crashed on me twice.
12:36:38 <warlord> Sir_Konrad: 3.0???? Um, not for a very VERY long time.
12:36:47 <warlord> 2.4 should be out soon.
12:45:12 <Sir_Konrad> warlord: 2.4? ok. :D
12:46:16 <Sir_Konrad> warlord: That'll be better then what I've got. 2.2 crashes occasionally on the Mac when I try to transfer transactions from one account to another (such as when I'm deleting an account).
12:46:32 <warlord> Why would you delete accounts?
12:47:08 <Sir_Konrad> warlord: Imbalance-USD is what I deleted.
12:47:22 <Sir_Konrad> Took what I needed from it and didn't want it there anymore.
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12:49:10 <warlord> So it was empty when you deleted it?
12:50:23 <Sir_Konrad> warlord: no, but I told it to transfer the transactions in it to Assets:Checking.
12:52:34 <warlord> Hm, okay.
12:52:35 <seyfi> is 2.4 release date set?
12:52:40 <warlord> seyfi: when it's ready.
12:52:47 <warlord> Still some critical bugs to fix.
12:52:48 <Sir_Konrad> :P
12:53:16 <Sir_Konrad> warlord: are you a developer or is your job managing the IRC channel?
12:53:24 <warlord> LOL
12:53:57 <Sir_Konrad> I think I just said something ridiculously ignorant. :P
12:54:06 <warlord> It's okay.
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13:57:18 <pegasusbill> when will this app be able to read .qdf files?
13:58:36 <jsled> when someone contributes the feature?
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16:30:53 <cortana> /usr/bin/gnucash: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gnucash/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-file.so: undefined symbol: assert
16:30:54 <cortana> gah!
16:31:27 <cortana> is there an assert-like macro i can use with gnucash?
16:32:13 <warlord> Umm, assert() usually *is* a macro..
16:32:27 <warlord> what OS/Distro? And how did you build gnucash? (and why is it in /usr?)
16:33:44 <cortana> yeah exactly
16:34:00 <cortana> i just unpacked the debian package, added #include <stdlib.h> and the assert. why it thinks it's a function I have no idea
16:34:36 <cortana> the /usr/bin/gnucash is also weird. i just run 'gnucash-env gdb gnucash-bin'
16:34:48 <cortana> (using debian unstable)
16:39:04 <warlord> I can't answer you what debian is doing.
16:43:28 <cortana> running configure and make as far as i can tell
16:57:28 <warlord> Umm... What do you mean by "/usr/bin/gnucash is also weird"?
17:00:31 <cortana> it's just a shell script, why would it appear in that error?
17:01:22 <warlord> because that's ARGV[0]
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18:20:24 <cortana> fair enough. i got it anyway. assert lives in assert.h, not stdlib.h. so C treated assert as an implicitely declared function. i hate C>
18:20:38 <warlord> Heh
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23:33:34 <Wayne> Just updated from ubuntu 8.04 to 10.04, and from gnucash 2.2.6 to 2.2.9. Now I cannot open my files - get "can't parse the url <path to file>. Moving file to another path does not make a difference.
23:43:33 <Wayne> May have a corrupted file. Checking...
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23:56:29 <Wayne> so far so good. Need to run it through some normal use and see where it goes. Later.....
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