2010-08-05 GnuCash IRC logs
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07:19:16 <blathijs> Is there any way to support A4 paper size when printing a report to file?
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07:25:27 <blathijs> When using File -> Print Report... I can select "Print to file", but under "Page Setup", the Paper size dropdown is grayed out and set to letter...
07:30:10 <blathijs> Ah, foudn it
07:30:25 <blathijs> apparently you must change the paper size under File -> Page Setup... for "Any printer"
07:30:36 <blathijs> Seems to be general Gnome issue
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08:01:17 <none> Hey guys. How can I change language of GNU Cash?
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08:10:54 <blathijs> none: Set your system language
08:11:06 <blathijs> none: Or export the proper LANG= variable before starting gnucash
08:11:29 <blathijs> e.g., "LANG=en_US gnucash" or something
08:15:21 <none> where do I export that var?
08:15:29 <none> Im using the windows version
08:22:18 <none> Another question. I just installed it and I make a new account. if I want to give an openning ammount to my checking account, what do I write in the "transfer" field?
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08:49:13 <blathijs> none: Hmm, I'm completly clueless regarding the Windows version, not sure if that var is actually used there
08:49:39 <blathijs> none: You'll have to create an "Equity" account for your opening balances
08:50:02 <blathijs> (since any money on your checking account at start is part of your starting equity as well)
08:53:56 <none> Ah, I didnt see there was an account called "opening balance" :)
08:54:16 <none> that makes sense :)
08:54:49 <none> is there anyway, that GNUCASH takes care of my monthly payments (like rent or gym) automatically?
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09:20:00 <Asmodee`> I've been messing with gnucash for about the last 5 hours and can't figure out what I'd think would be simple. I have a customer who has a project, then I have vendors who I need to complete the project. I want to link the bill that I pay the vendor to the project I do for the customer, but when I create the bill for the vendor and select the customer and job it turns the bill into an invoice.
09:21:27 <Asmodee`> What is the proper way to do this? Is it even possible? If I use 3 vendors to complete a single job for a customer, I don't want to be sending an invoice for each vendor to the customer + my own invoice, the customer should only get one invoice for the total. I just haven't figured out a way to link the bills to a customer job in this manner
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11:04:36 <blathijs> Asmodee`: Hmm, what do you mean by "turns the bill into an invoice" ?
11:05:22 <blathijs> Asmodee`: AFAIK, it works like this: On the bill, you select a customer (and optionally a job). On the entries in the bill, you'll have to check some checkbox (billable or something?) to mark the entry for chargeback
11:06:29 <blathijs> Asmodee`: Then, you create an invoice, with same customer (and optional job). In there, you will see all of the billable lines, which you can "hook" to the current invoice by checking some checkbox again
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11:25:41 <Asmodee`> Yeah I got that bit working. Turns out my problem was that if I select the vendors name and then the customers job, it turns the bill into an invoice (which I don't want). But if I leave the vendor's job blank and then below select the customer and the customer's job it works as you describe.
11:26:07 <blathijs> k :-)
11:26:33 <Asmodee`> Unfortunately if I accidently select the vendor's name and customers job in the upper section it turns the bill into an invoice and I don't see a way to undo it or otherwise delete the invoice
11:27:16 <Asmodee`> But now I see how to create the bill and link it with the customer's invoice like I wanted, so I think gnucash is going to do everything I need
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11:27:27 <Asmodee`> thanks!
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12:32:59 <a_b> Hi, I've tried to install Finance::Quote on Windows but now GnuCash doesn't appear to find them
12:33:05 <a_b> http://pastebin.com/w5iSghQX
12:33:23 <a_b> The get quotes button is greyed out, too.
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12:48:20 <kimmo> sorry to say, but the real problem lies within Windows
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13:13:46 <a_b> that's so helpful
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17:02:17 <warlord> jsled: I just asked #opers to op gncbot. I need to head to bed .. Hopefully we wont lose it again
17:02:35 <jsled> indeed.
17:04:01 <warlord> I'll be back in the states Monday night.
17:04:16 <warlord> I met Geert!
17:04:39 <jsled> ah, cool. :)
17:04:58 <warlord> Yeah! He and his wife are really really nice
17:05:22 <warlord> Anyways, gotta go. TTYL.
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22:02:50 <NginUS> Which distro is gnucash most stable on?
22:03:06 <NginUS> *platform
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22:07:46 <Bookman> I don't seem to be able to find a set of accounts suitable for a retail store, am I missing something or do I have to create them all from scratch?
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22:41:23 <Bookman> I just created a new chart of accounts and it is all in CAD funds. The first transaction I do in the General Ledger asks me to convert from USD to CAD funds. Why????
22:44:18 <Bookman> Anyone here????
22:45:18 <NginUS> I'm watching your torment
22:45:31 <NginUS> Wish I could help
22:47:52 <Bookman> It is driving me insane. Is there no 'standard accounting' package for Ubuntu/Linux? Something that comforms to North American Accounting Standards?
22:49:29 <NginUS> If it helps any, there's nothing in all of the known GNU universe for rental equipment management, either. The good stuff's all $5-10k, omg
22:51:17 <Bookman> Yeah, I might explore online options....
22:54:46 <Bookman> There has to be some solution for Linux users. I'd hate to go back to Windows.
22:55:17 <NginUS> My web-based bookmarks: http://bit.ly/9MhJpg
22:56:17 <NginUS> the ones with more stars were recommended by more ppl
22:56:29 <NginUS> it's verry scientific
22:56:30 <NginUS> lol
22:56:52 <NginUS> that one with the (self-spam) suffix is from a troll
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22:58:04 <Bookman> Reviewing now, thanks
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23:03:27 <NginUS> http://lifehacker.com/396507/five-best-personal-finance-tools
23:03:44 <NginUS> I arrived @ gnucash from there
23:04:47 <NginUS> I tried it years ago on XP, & it crashed so I never came back until now- no one answered my question either- which platform is it stablist on? guess I could scrape bug reports- haaasle
23:05:07 <Bookman> I appreciate the suggestions! I will review.
23:05:13 <NginUS> yes stablist is a word because I said so
23:05:28 <NginUS> cool, hope you find something that works out
23:05:41 <Bookman> I'll still fight with the gnucash thing. Last time I ended up writing my own custom software with Gambas and MySQL database
23:06:08 <Bookman> It works quite well actually. Open Office.org was a disaster
23:06:20 <NginUS> sucks to have to fight w/ anything-
23:06:40 <Bookman> Not really. Just accounting for whatever reason.
23:06:46 <Bookman> Everything else is just awesome.
23:06:50 <NginUS> I like Lenny because in theory there's no fightin left to do.
23:07:31 <Bookman> Accounting seems to be the last hurdle.
23:08:00 <NginUS> Stallman thinks CAD is what needs attention... owell
23:08:24 <NginUS> Stallman- whatevertheheck tha GNU guru guys name is- prolly not Stalmna
23:09:02 <NginUS> said CAD, like a punch to the gut for small biz
23:09:10 <NginUS> mine anyway
23:10:57 <Bookman> I seem to remember some decent CAD/CADCAM software some time ago that was Linux friendly.
23:11:00 <Bookman> hmmmm
23:11:11 <Bookman> Not AutoCad, but similar and usable.
23:11:26 <Bookman> I think Sherline uses Linux for their CNC machines.
23:12:30 <NginUS> thats encouraging, hopeully they contribute back
23:13:10 <Bookman> It has been a few years since I was doing engineering work.
23:13:39 <NginUS> I'd much rather spend a few grand on a rental module function to an existing FOSS ERP than a whole closed application
23:14:02 <NginUS> if only it were that easy
23:14:35 <NginUS> I wonder why Yodlee gets no love when it's everyone else's backend?
23:14:37 <Bookman> Well, if we don't make requests, they will never get developed!
23:15:46 <Bookman> Actually I'm old fashioned that way. I still love paper transactions.
23:16:15 <NginUS> All I have time for is to maybe make an announce n say hey heres 1k someone make this work for me plz... by the end of the month
23:16:30 <Bookman> Good point
23:16:49 <Bookman> Accounting makes no money
23:16:54 <NginUS> owait- its already august, by last week
23:16:55 <Bookman> It is a PITA
23:17:29 <NginUS> I have to learn how to hire someone on commission this week, and there's no infrastructure for them to input to yet... omg
23:17:51 <Bookman> I see you are in the same boat that I am!
23:18:06 <NginUS> and now iim so burnt out all i can bring myself to do is look at cheezburger & hackernews
23:18:11 <Bookman> Well, I guess I will have to heavily modify and adapt to GNUCash for now
23:18:35 <NginUS> it's canadian
23:19:00 <Bookman> Well so am I
23:19:19 <NginUS> hey thats amazing- so's this redbull
23:19:35 <Bookman> There you go!
23:19:41 <NginUS> theres a sweet project from canada that inspires me sometimes- scenic
23:19:58 <NginUS> http://svn.sat.qc.ca/trac/miville/
23:20:41 <NginUS> they have 35ms lag between Vancouver & Montreal for HD
23:21:06 <NginUS> apparently thats alot- goal is <5
23:21:19 <Bookman> We Canadians are resourceful when it comes to distance! It is part of our history. Progress by necessity.
23:21:45 * NginUS doesn't even know where those towns are- thought they were next door till this oment
23:21:50 <NginUS> *mooment
23:21:52 <NginUS> moo
23:21:56 <Bookman> ?
23:22:08 <Bookman> There are huge distances here
23:22:14 <NginUS> o
23:22:59 <Bookman> Anyways, I appreciate your suggestions tonight. I have to sit back and evaluate them all.
23:23:13 <NginUS> yesh- again- hope it helps
23:23:20 <NginUS> good luck
23:23:27 <Bookman> And to you as well....!
23:23:31 <NginUS> thx
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23:39:49 <jfauxy> anybody out there know and understand the gnucash interface?
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