2010-07-29 GnuCash IRC logs
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06:10:26 <opalepatrick> ugh
06:10:28 <warlord> heh
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11:01:25 <warlord> @op
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11:03:10 <raleightile> mornig
11:03:13 <raleightile> morning
11:03:51 <kimmo> mornink
11:04:11 <raleightile> :)
11:04:27 <raleightile> just curious on best practice, I take credit card transactions, but when I list them as going into my checking account they show todays date
11:04:47 <raleightile> but they don't actually go in until later because they are in holding
11:05:16 <raleightile> also when someone pays with a check it sits in the drawer until I go to the bank
11:05:29 <raleightile> is there a recomendation for this scenario?
11:05:46 <raleightile> in quick books we used udeposited funds, and then "made deposits"
11:05:55 <raleightile> Thanks for any help
11:11:06 <warlord> raleightile: use a "waiting for deposit" account.
11:11:11 <warlord> aka a 'transit' account
11:11:15 <warlord> or 'holding' account
11:12:31 <raleightile> is that a current asset or just a regular asset?
11:15:14 <warlord> Everything is a "Current" asset, except for things like cars, houses, etc.
11:15:19 <warlord> (Fixed assets)
11:17:05 <raleightile> Thanks!
11:19:57 <warlord> you're welcome
11:29:48 <piropiro> warlord: I'm playing with the python bindings for my project and they seem working fine
11:30:00 <warlord> ok
11:30:20 <piropiro> i found a small bug, and I assume I'll found other as I don't think many people are using them
11:31:16 <piropiro> i was wondering what's the maintenance state of these binding: is the gnucash project that takes care of them
11:31:24 <piropiro> or is ParIT?
11:31:47 <warlord> ParIT
11:31:51 <warlord> who sends up updates.
11:31:52 <piropiro> what is the best way to submit back the fixes?
11:32:01 <warlord> I think -devel, if you have a patch.
11:32:53 <piropiro> I will subscribe, thank you
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12:06:09 <raleightile> so use the transfer function to make the deposit?
12:06:39 <raleightile> I would really like a "Make Deposit" menu under the Business Menu
12:06:49 <warlord> Why? What does "Make deposit" mean?
12:08:13 <raleightile> It's easy math for the challenged
12:08:50 <raleightile> you have a list of deposits in the undeposited fund account, and then you put a check by the ones you are taking to the bank, it totals and then makes
12:08:52 <warlord> And how is it any easier than opening up "Assets:WaitingToBeDeposited" and looking at the balance?
12:09:00 <raleightile> the appropriate transfer
12:09:25 <raleightile> I guess it depends on how many types you have
12:09:34 <warlord> Why do you need checkboxes? Just type in the expression: 10.27+163.17+1624.12+161.53
12:09:43 <warlord> gnucash will do the math for you
12:10:03 <raleightile> In my case I take some checks to chase, some to city, and some are from amex or discover in holding
12:10:08 <raleightile> i can do as you say
12:10:25 <raleightile> It's no problem
12:11:13 <raleightile> one thing I do wish was better
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12:11:37 <warlord> patches always welcome. :)
12:11:47 <raleightile> the box evaluates the number correctly, but you have to maintain the order of operations
12:12:13 <warlord> Well, you have to know which check you're depositing into which place either way.
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12:41:53 <piropiro> I see from the database logs that gnucash tries to create the same tables over and over
12:42:06 <piropiro> even when specifying is_new=False for the session
12:42:12 <piropiro> is this expected?
12:50:23 <raleightile> like if i'm on a box that says 1.49 and I type /2 then I get 1.49/2, but if the cursor is in front it wont work
12:50:35 <raleightile> because /21.49 is not good
12:51:26 <raleightile> if I was using a calculator and the screen said 1.49, pressing / would always work because the cursor is always after the last digit
12:51:47 <raleightile> minor gripe, not sure how to fix
12:51:59 <kimmo> warlord, is there a way to make gnucash forget using , as thousands separator, and accept both "," and "." as decimal separator in input?
12:55:25 <warlord> piropiro: Probably not.
12:55:43 <warlord> It should only attempt to create at session_creation
12:56:25 <warlord> raleightile: what are you doing to move the cursor?
12:56:31 <piropiro> I will prepare a test case and send to -devel
12:56:38 <warlord> kimmo: nope.
12:56:47 <warlord> (not without a lot of coding)
12:59:01 <piropiro> btw, how is gnucash logger configured? how do I choose if I want to see "DEBUG <gnc.backend.dbi> " lines or not?
12:59:31 <warlord> on the commandline, and in the config file
13:00:40 <raleightile> clicking on a line to correct the price seems to default to putting the cursor in front, but it is way I'm clicking, there is always more room to the left so
13:01:10 <raleightile> my lazy mouse usually clicks there
13:01:19 <warlord> Why are you clicking around anyways?
13:01:38 <jsled> piropiro: http://cvs.gnucash.org/docs/HEAD/group__Logging.html#_details
13:01:41 <warlord> I mean, sure, if you're actually moving the cursor, then Duh!
13:01:42 <piropiro> is there a way to configure the behaviour during a binding runtime?
13:01:43 <raleightile> sometimes i do
13:02:02 <warlord> anyways, I need to head to dinner...
13:02:11 <raleightile> if i use tab, it selects everything by default, and then pressing / deletes it all
13:02:20 <piropiro> jsled: tnx
13:02:44 <raleightile> if it doesn't bother anyone else, I'll be ok
13:02:46 <raleightile> :)
13:02:59 <warlord> I consider that a feature!
13:03:15 <raleightile> ok
13:03:26 <raleightile> let's not remove any features
13:05:29 <jsled> piropiro: in case you didn't click through, the gnucash-devel announcement is more informative than the doxygen docs, unfortunately. :(
13:06:58 <piropiro> jsled: ty - i'm just reading
13:07:33 <piropiro> after a quick grep, it seems qof_log_init* is not invoked nor wrapped by the python bindings. do you know if this impression is correct?
13:07:45 <jsled> I don't know anything about the python bindings.
13:08:14 <jsled> which is a bit ironic as I was probably the most python-friendly core dev when they were announced.
13:08:16 <piropiro> just in case, because I'm happily hacking on them, who is the reference for them?
13:08:39 <jsled> whomever provided them. :)
13:09:10 <piropiro> ah, maybe i've missed a function: probably they are wrapped...
13:11:04 <piropiro> yes, it seems qof_log_init is srapped in the trunk but not in 2.3.14
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