2010-07-02 GnuCash IRC logs
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06:55:47 <blathijs> Does 2.3 have the new invoice templating stuff already? I've found a post from a year ago saying that it would be changing soon, but I can't seem to find anything related to that in the source
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06:59:21 <blathijs> I've found a "report-html.txt", but that seems to be from the last report redesign...
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08:50:53 <warlord> blathijs: it should.
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09:12:48 <blathijs> warlord: Where do I look if I want a custom invoice layout, then?
09:13:29 <warlord> blathijs: well, it all starts out with one question: which invoice report are you starting with?
09:14:39 <blathijs> Dunno, I'm looking at the printable invoice layout (e.g., what I get when I say "Print Invoice").
09:15:09 <blathijs> There is also this "fancy invoice" thing, but I haven't been able to get that one behind the "Print Invoice" menu item yet
09:16:08 <warlord> The "Print Invoice" toolbar will only print the Printable Invoice. It's not selectable. The only thing special about the Print Invoice button is that it automatically selects the current invoice. There's no reason you have to do it that way.
09:16:23 <warlord> You could just run the invoice report of your choice and then choose the invoice you wish to print.
09:16:29 <warlord> (through the report options)
09:17:09 <blathijs> Yeah, I figured, but using print invoice seems more convenient
09:17:14 <warlord> Moreover, you could set up the report the way you want, leave it open (i.e., don't close the tab), and then when you post a new invoice go to that open report, edit the report options, and re-select the invoice.
09:17:25 <warlord> It's really not that much more convenient.
09:17:31 <warlord> (well, *I* dont think it is)
09:17:54 <blathijs> I guess it depends on your workflow, which I haven't figured out yet :-)
09:18:27 <blathijs> But, the real question was, where do I change the HTML template for an invoice report? Either change Printable invoice, or create my own copy?
09:19:33 <warlord> Ah, see.. the Printable Invoice is NOT an eguile template report.
09:20:18 <blathijs> Ah, but (some?) other reports are?
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09:21:07 <blathijs> Let's google eguile :-)
09:21:13 <warlord> If you're running a recent-enough 2.3.x, yes. the tax invoice report
09:21:31 <blathijs> Uh, what: "eguile looks like PHP, but with Scheme instead of Perl."
09:21:37 <blathijs> Oh well :-)
09:21:53 <blathijs> warlord: I'm running current trunk atm, so that should work out :-)
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09:22:50 <warlord> But again, it wont work from the "Print Invoice" button
09:23:38 <blathijs> I understand that, but fortunately that's not a big deal for me :-)
09:25:13 <warlord> ok
09:25:47 <blathijs> Hm, getting scheme errors in stderr now (and the GUI says "An error occurred while running the report.")
09:26:46 <blathijs> Does this mean anything to you? http://pastebin.com/5yqiFs1P
09:28:47 <blathijs> Hmm, seems sub-vicinity is a function from SRFI-59
09:33:34 <blathijs> And it seems quilt doesn't have code for srfi-59
09:33:58 <warlord> Oh, yeah, that's been reported.
09:34:16 <warlord> the report needs to be fixed to not use the vicinity functions.
09:34:21 <warlord> ... but nobody has done that.
09:34:23 <warlord> Sorry.
09:34:31 <warlord> In the sort term I think you can re-add slib.
09:37:41 <blathijs> How would that work? some use-modules call?
09:38:49 <blathijs> I'll try this one: (use-modules (ice-9 slib))
09:39:30 <blathijs> Cool, that works
09:42:21 <warlord> yeah..
09:42:23 <warlord> that
09:45:00 <blathijs> There's still quite some stuff in the HTML template, though. The checks if there is an invoice selected (and that it's not a bill) and the data retrieval about the invoice.
09:45:08 <blathijs> Doesn't it make more sense to but that into the .scm file?
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09:47:45 <warlord> Oh, probably. but I didn't write it.
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09:48:14 <blathijs> :-)
09:48:38 <blathijs> warlord: Do you know what's the difference between a Tax invoice and a printable invoice? Is there any real distinction?
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09:50:59 <warlord> Some wording
09:51:05 <warlord> And formatting/look-and-feel
09:51:09 <warlord> the printable invoice is very very basic.
09:51:15 <warlord> the tax invoice... is an eguile report
09:51:55 <blathijs> Seems like I can make the tax invoice work for me, probably even without HTML changes (perhaps CSS changes, though)
09:52:49 <blathijs> Can I put CSS files in my homedir somewhere? Or does that need the full path in the "css file" option in the report?
09:53:56 <warlord> I'm not sure. I've never used the eguile reports.
09:54:38 <blathijs> k, I'll poke around
09:54:42 <blathijs> Thanks for the pointers!
09:56:44 <warlord> you're welcome
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10:13:12 <gjanssens> Hi all.
10:13:12 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 3 weeks, 3 days, 7 hours, and 46 minutes ago: <kimmo_> hey thanks
10:13:34 <gjanssens> warlord: I have a proposal for the gnucash wiki
10:14:01 <gjanssens> What would you think of installing a wysiwyg editor as a plugin ?
10:14:10 <gjanssens> http://mediawiki.fckeditor.net/
10:14:56 <gjanssens> I am trying to get more users to contribute to the wiki, but experience tells me most non-developers have issues with the wiki syntax
10:15:11 <gjanssens> Most of them are used to Word these days...
10:16:13 <gjanssens> fckeditor is a fairly easy to use editor that integrates well with mediawiki
10:16:39 <gjanssens> The plugin allows access to both the original wiki editor and the gui fck editor.
10:17:42 <warlord> Hmm, is there an RPM for it?
10:18:27 <gjanssens> *That* I don't know...
10:19:03 <gjanssens> For what OS would you need it ?
10:19:11 <gjanssens> F13 ?
10:19:19 <warlord> let... yeah, let's say FC13
10:19:29 <warlord> (I plan to update from FC10 to FC13)
10:19:52 <gjanssens> Do I read between the lines then that Mediawiki has been installed from rpm ?
10:20:31 <warlord> yes
10:20:43 <warlord> everything has been installed by rpm
10:20:53 <gjanssens> Ok, I'll see if I can find an rpm then
10:22:34 <blathijs> Does fckeditor handle wiki-syntax, then? I thought it was just an HTML editor, really
10:23:20 <gjanssens> blathijs: fckeditor handles several syntaxes
10:23:27 <gjanssens> I think it uses plugins for that.
10:24:00 <gjanssens> I have installed it for example for dokuwiki and drupal as well.
10:24:15 <blathijs> Hm, didn't know that. Let's look closer, then :-)
10:25:13 <blathijs> Seems it's called ckeditor these days
10:25:43 <gjanssens> You're right, that's how I installed it in drupal
10:26:01 <gjanssens> I called it fckeditor here because of the mediawiki link above
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10:41:04 <warlord> scar: re: your email, like I said here... look in the code in apply-invoice and make sure it choses the correct bucket
10:41:11 <warlord> (and .scm == SCHEME)
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12:15:12 <gjanssens> About fckeditor: I don't find an rpm right away.
12:15:31 <gjanssens> Perhaps I'll create one my own, but that will have to wait for a while, I don't have time now.
12:17:32 <davr> I don't think web apps usually have RPMs, do they? usually it's something you want to customize, put in a specific directory in a specific vhost, etc
12:18:50 <gjanssens> True, but on Fedora some of the more popular web apps have been packaged in rpms as well.
12:18:59 <gjanssens> Makes it very easy for maintenance.
12:19:03 <warlord> well, the system is still Fc10.. I think I'd wait until I upgrade to FC13 before installing the plugin
12:19:38 <gjanssens> If you start with such a prepackaged system, it's best to continue with rpm packages for extensions as well
12:19:53 <gjanssens> There are a number of them for mediawiki on Fedora, but not fckeditor.
12:20:23 <gjanssens> I think these extension packages are rather simple, so it shouldn't be hard to create one myself
12:20:33 <gjanssens> warlord: yes, I'll wait for that.
12:25:56 <warlord> yeah, it should be pretty easy to package it up. Worst case I can look into it after I do the upgrade.
12:37:12 <gjanssens> Great! Got to go now. See you...
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13:25:36 <blathijs> davr: Also, the better designed web applications allow for installation _outside_ of the documentroot, with multiple instances on the same codebase etc.
13:29:36 <blathijs> goodolE22: Here is the public channel! :-)
13:30:10 <goodolE22> i was wondering if someone could help me with the online banking function of gnucash. The aqBanking wizard is crashing after adding an aqofxconnect user and clicking on the General tab. I get the error qt3-wizard quit unexpectedly. I have the crash logs if that helps and am running gnucash 2.3.7
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16:01:22 <Askarii> accounting question forgnucash
16:01:35 <Askarii> is there a way to "add money" to an account, as per a "initial amount"
16:01:43 <Askarii> without it having to relate to another account
16:01:49 <Askarii> but the account is already created
16:03:49 <jsled> Equity:Opening Balances
16:04:51 <jsled> To answer your question a bit more directly: no, every transaction has "two" parts … Equity:Opening Balances is used for what you want
16:07:14 <Askarii> to the exception of "new accounts" which can have an opening balance?
16:07:34 <Askarii> alright, thank you, I'll use equity "opening balances"
16:08:21 <jsled> New accounts simply create a transaction against Equity:Opening Balances.
16:08:21 <Askarii> how do I create the opening balances account.... :S
16:08:49 <jsled> It should be part of the "Common" account hierarchy … but just create a top level Equity-type account, then a sub-account of that.
16:13:24 <Askarii> I have a modified account hierarchy
16:13:48 <Askarii> grr, all is in french XD
16:17:59 <Askarii> lol found a solution
16:18:24 <Askarii> created a "test" account with an opening balance, which then made the "opening balances account" appear
16:31:49 <Askarii> jsled
16:31:55 <Askarii> what does "hidden" account do?
16:33:26 <Askarii> nvm
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20:34:07 <w8> On execute, New security window complains about empty fields when fields have appropriate entries. Using 2.3.14. Suggestions?
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23:06:06 <Zombie> Does anyone know how to make GnuCash interoperate with US Federal Credit Unions?
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23:45:01 <Alexsandr4> GC is great....I love it! So glad to dump Quacken
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