2010-05-25 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:30:40 <Eric> Hi, I am trying to install Gnucash on an intel Mac. Cannot find the tutorials or help. Found what I needed on the FAQ, but need some one to tell me how to fix it. Sorry if this is so basic it bores, but any and all help would be appreciated
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13:24:42 <ljeanbeans> Finally got into this irc, never used it b4
13:25:52 <ljeanbeans> Are you all here to chat privately
13:26:07 <ljeanbeans> and chat about free accounting software ??
13:28:18 <ljeanbeans> Why is my newly installed software icon a .cmd instead of an .exe
13:29:09 <ljeanbeans> I want to run my program, which .exe file starts it upu
13:29:41 <jsled> what's wrong with the .cmd
13:29:43 <jsled> ?
13:29:57 <jsled> the batch file sets up the environment for the executable to run in, as I understand.
13:30:01 <ljeanbeans> It simply opens a text doc showing the path
13:30:13 <jsled> (also, note that this channel is publically logged.)
13:30:49 <ljeanbeans> I saw the public log
13:31:04 <jsled> I don't know much about the windows install, but that sounds like a broken system. Batch scripts should be setup to execute, not be edited.
13:31:43 <jsled> I just wanted to make sure, given your query about "chatting privately".
13:31:46 <jsled> :)
13:31:47 <ljeanbeans> I don't know tons about file extensions, just self taught
13:32:06 <ljeanbeans> Oh, that, I didn't see any dialogue
13:32:43 <ljeanbeans> so you use mac? or linux?
13:34:18 <jsled> linux, though I don't use gnucash much these days
13:34:44 <ljeanbeans> "notepad" setlocal chcp 1252 set PATH=C:\Program Files\gnucash\bin;C:\Program Files\gnucash\lib;C:\Program Files\gnucash\lib\gnucash;%PATH% set GUILE_WARN_DEPRECATED=no set GNC_MODULE_PATH=C:\Program Files\gnucash\lib\gnucash set GUILE_LOAD_PATH=C:\Program Files\gnucash\share\gnucash\guile-modules;C:\Program Files\gnucash\share\gnucash\scm;C:\Program Files\gn
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13:35:11 <Askarii> HELP
13:35:15 <Askarii> PLEASE HELP
13:35:23 <Askarii> I cannot see my account tree anymore
13:35:25 <kimmo> STOP SHOUTING! MY EARS ARE BLEEINDG!
13:35:30 <Askarii> sorry
13:35:41 <Askarii> but I'm goin nuts i looked everywhere, online, faq everything
13:35:47 <kimmo> Askarii, just select it from the menu
13:35:48 <Askarii> I can't see my account tree
13:35:54 <jsled> File > New > New Accounts Page
13:35:56 <Askarii> what menu?
13:36:27 <kimmo> jsled, I have to concur with Askarii, that place is a "wee bit" unintuitive
13:36:37 <jsled> I concur as well.
13:36:55 <Askarii> Now I love you
13:36:59 <Askarii> and I feel dumb
13:37:01 <Askarii> thx
13:37:01 <jsled> ljeanbeans: your last line was cut off mid-way through.
13:37:10 <jsled> yw. it is not an obvious place for that.
13:37:31 <jsled> Though the software does try to prevent closing the account page.
13:37:42 <kimmo> it does?
13:37:43 <jsled> but, clearly, it's possible.
13:38:12 <ljeanbeans> ok, the .cmd opens in a notepad and shows the path location copied pasted want to see it again?
13:38:55 <jsled> Yeah … you can't close the page, or the window with an Account page, or something.
13:39:03 <jsled> ljeanbeans: this is "gnucash.cmd" or something?
13:39:10 <kimmo> jsled, I've managed to get it closed a few times. I can't think how off the top of my head tho
13:39:14 <ljeanbeans> exactly
13:39:16 <Askarii> Has anyone ever considered translating Gnucash into another language?
13:39:33 <jsled> Askarii: it's translated into a few already. http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Translation
13:39:59 <Askarii> really? How do I use a french version, for example
13:40:09 <jsled> ljeanbeans: that's really weird. Maybe remove the "notepad" from the front of that line, and try running it again?
13:40:27 <Askarii> is it at instal, or do I change the local
13:40:54 <jsled> Askarii: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_I_want_to_use_GnuCash_in_my_own_language
13:41:11 <ljeanbeans> that's after install, I've installed a few times, tried the program, closed but won't reopen
13:41:50 <ljeanbeans> in the bin folder it's 1kb
13:42:03 <ljeanbeans> windows nt command script
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13:43:53 <ljeanbeans> that's what the program icon points to
13:44:19 <ljeanbeans> brb
13:46:23 <jsled> right. it should. It's a script that sets up the environment to run the executable.
13:46:32 <jsled> I don't know how or why "notepad" is involved.
13:46:51 <jsled> if "notepad" is present inside the .cmd file, perhaps you should remove it and try again.
13:47:18 <ljeanbeans> Crap, I'll have to learn that one, beginner/intermediate here
13:49:07 <ljeanbeans> properties, summary, advanced? brb
13:50:32 <ljeanbeans> love the open user license agreement, but I don't know if i'm knowledgeable enough to make use of it lol
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13:52:47 <Askarii> jsled: THANK YOU VERY MUCH
13:53:04 <Askarii> I had been playing in the code directly to translate my invoices XD
13:53:10 <jsled> Askarii: you're welcome.
13:55:23 <Askarii> jsled: A line in the french version hasn't been translated, in the invoices.
13:55:44 <Askarii> if you're interested, the line is the "make all cheques payable to"
13:56:07 <Askarii> it should be translated to: Les chèques sont payables à:
13:59:08 <ljeanbeans> Could use a clue here, how to I view the program code ??? lol
13:59:39 <ljeanbeans> do I
14:00:03 <Askarii> go into its directory?
14:00:12 <Askarii> or dl source code...
14:01:04 <ljeanbeans> how lol never done this b4 but have nothing to lose
14:02:17 <jsled> if you just care to idly browse, http://svn.gnucash.org/trac/browser/gnucash/trunk might be easier.
14:02:32 <jsled> I don't know if the source is distributed with the windows installer version
14:07:03 <ljeanbeans> ok
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14:20:51 <warlord> ljeanbeans: you should just be able to double-click on the .cmd and it will run..
14:21:20 <ljeanbeans> Well, sure one would think.
14:21:38 <ljeanbeans> just found that there are files from other programs in C:\Program Files\gnucash\bin
14:21:41 <warlord> It does for everyone else, unless you did something funky during install
14:21:52 <ljeanbeans> This photo software called gimp
14:22:00 <warlord> You have GIMP installed?
14:22:08 <ljeanbeans> yea
14:22:33 <warlord> Hmm... I have no idea if that might interact poorly.
14:22:40 <ljeanbeans> I should just uninstall it, it seems to have interfered, easy way to try again, right?
14:22:52 <warlord> Might be.
14:23:07 <warlord> I have no idea why double-clicking on the gnucash .cmd brings it up in notepad
14:23:49 <ljeanbeans> me neither, honestly, I'm pretty green and was trying to remember how to simply view the registry
14:24:00 <warlord> regedit
14:24:23 <ljeanbeans> oh yeah, duh, it's been awhile
14:24:32 <warlord> Why are you running this on Windows anyways?
14:24:42 <jsled> why would gimp be in c:\program files\gnucash\bin ?
14:24:45 <ljeanbeans> because that's all I have
14:24:49 <jsled> Where did you get gnucash?
14:24:56 <ljeanbeans> and I'm too poor for quickbooks, but i enjoy a challenge lol
14:25:12 <ljeanbeans> gnucash.org
14:25:27 <warlord> Why not install Ubuntu?
14:25:39 <warlord> (or some other Linux flavor)
14:26:04 <warlord> and ==jsled -- why/how is GIMP in c:\program files\gnucash ?
14:27:45 <ljeanbeans> necessity grow resourcefulness, right? stinkin' poor in the us
14:27:57 <warlord> Ubuntu is free
14:28:20 <warlord> and being poor doesn't explain why gimp would be in c:\p f\gnucash
14:28:45 <ljeanbeans> true enough, and a free op sys?
14:29:01 <ljeanbeans> that's a little bit scary to me, I would definitely have to get my surgery gloves on
14:29:03 <warlord> Ubuntu uses Linux. Free
14:29:13 <ljeanbeans> that's sweet
14:29:34 <ljeanbeans> brb
14:36:17 <ljeanbeans> I use cc cleaner and eusing and have windows xp
14:37:05 <ljeanbeans> pawn shop guy has a mac laptop with 246?mb ram he wants $220 for, rip right?
14:41:44 <ljeanbeans> been using windowsbbs.com. Think it's stupid that explorer (browser) is an integral part of the op sys and runs with every other browser
14:50:26 <ljeanbeans> her goes a reinstall
14:53:35 <ljeanbeans> okay, nope still the notepad
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14:55:26 <warlord> what version of windows?
14:56:00 <ljeanbeans> xp home
14:56:28 <warlord> Hmm... Maybe you somehow got windows confused and tied .cmd files to notepad instead of executing them?
14:56:48 <warlord> What happens if you open up a cmd shell and then run: c:\program files\gnucash\bin\gnucash.cmd
14:58:55 <ljeanbeans> okay, I need a 101 in this stuff. How do i run a cmd shell
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14:59:12 <warlord> Start -> Run -> "cmd"
14:59:30 <ljeanbeans> okay, that's too easy, just a sec
15:00:30 <warlord> It's windows... it's not meant to be hard.
15:02:26 <ljeanbeans> c:\documentsandsettings\ me > c:\program files\gnucash\bin\gnucash.cmd
15:02:39 <ljeanbeans> the system cannot find the specified path
15:04:44 <warlord> Maybe Start -> GnuCash -> GnuCash ?
15:04:56 <warlord> Where is the gnucash.cmd located?
15:05:36 <ljeanbeans> that opened a new cmd shell
15:06:06 <scar> when i return something to a store, what is the correct way to enter that into gnucash? do i just enter a new transaction or is there something i do to the original transaction?
15:06:11 <ljeanbeans> bin
15:06:31 <warlord> scar: add a new transaction that's an inverse of the first one
15:07:58 <ljeanbeans> the process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process
15:08:47 <warlord> ljeanbeans: read this page: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307859
15:09:03 <ljeanbeans> ok
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15:12:13 <CHstwPH> Hello!
15:12:22 <CHstwPH> How is everyone?
15:14:12 <CHstwPH> May I ask a question?
15:15:18 <warlord> You just asked two
15:15:18 <jsled> of course. in fact, please don't meta-ask, just go ahead and ask. :)
15:15:52 <ljeanbeans> Yes, that opened my file in gnucash
15:16:39 <CHstwPH> Has anyone had success setting up Wachovia with gnucash? I know that they have several different servers (Wachovia, zWachovia, xWachovia)
15:17:01 <CHstwPH> But I can't get any of them to work!
15:18:00 <CHstwPH> Does it depend on what part of the country you live in as to which server you use
15:18:33 <CHstwPH> Are they still using wachovia servers, or have they gone to Wells Fargo servers yet?
15:21:46 <ljeanbeans> So, now if I click on the file itself the program opens, but the icons have to opens in the context menu
15:21:57 <ljeanbeans> no open or open with
15:24:42 <CHstwPH> Well, ljeanbeans, would you please tell me what bank code, etc. you used? I thought sure I was using all the right ones, and believe me, I searched. And as you know, Wachovia online support was no help, because "we only support Money & Quicken"......
15:25:25 <ljeanbeans> oh, hey ChstwPH, you can't see that I'm talking about my own issue b4 you got here, sorry
15:25:49 <CHstwPH> Duh!...................sorry !
15:26:06 <ljeanbeans> no prob, I'm Duh! today too
15:26:31 <CHstwPH> I am still new to chat, so I didn't know to check the conversation first!
15:27:37 <ljeanbeans> This is my 1st day, I bet you'd need to check http://lists.gnucash.org/logs to see previous post but don't know 4 sure
15:27:58 <CHstwPH> I'll try it.......
15:29:16 <ljeanbeans> Maybe I'll have to delete the icons and place my actual file in the start menu, unless there's still a way to fix the icon. I've never built an icon or anything b4, just move them around
15:29:25 <warlord> ljeanbeans: no....
15:29:44 <warlord> If you're trying to load your data file, just double-click on your data file.
15:30:48 <CHstwPH> Pretty cool!...............it works to look at the logs. But now I know that no one is talking about Wachovia
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15:32:25 <warlord> CHstwPH: no, nobody is talking about Wachovia. I presume you're talking about OFX-DC. Check the wiki page.
15:37:09 <CHstwPH> Yes, warlord, I do mean the OFX-DC. I did check the wiki, and even devoured the OFX website, among others! I am positive that I am using the correct info, but maybe I have typed it in wrong. I though maybe if anyone else was using Wahcovia successfully, they knew a trick!
15:37:13 <ljeanbeans> Right, but the http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307859 allowed me to redirect to the gnucash.cmd in the bin file but the icons still use notepad and have no opens in the context menu so they don't work
15:39:37 <warlord> CHstwPH: If it's not on the wiki, then unlikely.
15:39:56 <warlord> ljeanbeans: it sounds like your registry is all screwed up.
15:41:16 <CHstwPH> Thanks, warlord. I will try again. Maybe it was server problems that day!
15:41:41 <warlord> turn on the OFX logs
15:41:52 <warlord> and see what error it's having?
15:42:39 <warlord> ljeanbeans: the fact that gnucash.cmd has a notepad icon means that your registry is frotzed.
15:42:56 <warlord> You should re-assign the .cmd file extension..
15:43:06 <warlord> I think it's supposed to go to "1st Reader"
15:43:15 <warlord> (not sure what that is, however)
15:44:09 <CHstwPH> warlord: you mean the OFX logs on the Wachovia servers ?
15:44:43 <warlord> Ummm..... no. Although if you could, that would be pretty impressive.
15:45:12 <ljeanbeans> the icon isn't notepad, the nice pict icon opens notepad. I fixed the actual accounting file to open in gnucash. the gnucash icons on my desktop and startmenu are the only ones that don't have "open" in the context menu. Even uninstall gnucash has "open" in the context menu
15:47:20 <CHstwPH> LOL!.................yes, I guess if I could do that, I wouldn't need to worry about accessing the OFX!
15:49:33 <ljeanbeans> I wish I knew how to build a program, this would be so much more fun :-P
15:53:21 <ljeanbeans> I was thinking that if you had access to the actual servers, you'd need some serious encryption because your own info would be hanging out there, right? But intuit bought mint, right?
15:57:24 <ljeanbeans> gnucash\share\gnucash\pixmaps\gnucash-icon.ico,0
15:57:49 <ljeanbeans> ooh, there's a thunderstorm at my pad all of a sudden! brb
16:03:43 <warlord> The fact that double-clicking on gnucash.cmd brings up notepad implies your registry is screwed up. The fact that double-clicking on your gnucash-file brings up gnucash is a good thing.
16:03:55 <warlord> ... but your registry is still screwed up.
16:04:11 <warlord> google for "file extension registry" and search the pages for ways to fix it.
16:06:50 <ljeanbeans> will do
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16:22:09 <ljeanbeans> haha my power went off and on, I shoud've shutdown my system in advance.
16:22:25 <warlord> heh
16:23:03 <ljeanbeans> It's been so dry here, though, the rain is great
16:26:32 <warlord> rain rain go away..
16:28:39 <ljeanbeans> http://filext.com/
16:32:32 <ljeanbeans> System Info for File Extension .CMD The following listing is compiled from the database produced by the 'Associate This!' program, selected data from the main FILExt database and information FILExt collected directly from user systems. ProgramID: cmdfile, FileType: Windows NT Command Script, AppName: %1 EXEFile: %1 ProgramID: cmdfile, FileType: Windows NT Com
16:33:04 <ljeanbeans> mand Script, AppName: Notepad ProgramID: cmdfile EXEFile: %1 %* ProgramID: cmdfile EXEFile: %ProgramFiles%\@Home veiligheid\AntiVirus\AVFileMon.exe %1 %* ProgramID: Notepad++_file EXEFile: %ProgramFiles%\Notepad++\notepad++.exe %1
16:33:49 <warlord> And... that looks to be part of the problem, wouldn't you say?
16:34:02 <warlord> AVFileMon.exe?
16:34:13 <ljeanbeans> this is info on the cmd file extension from filext.com
16:34:57 <warlord> Right.
16:35:44 <ljeanbeans> Detailed information for file extension CMD: Primary association: 1st Reader JUST LIKE YOU SAID
16:39:15 <warlord> Why is the AppName: Notepad in there?
16:40:04 <ljeanbeans> My regedit : Gnush.Financial.Data\Shell Name default Type REG_SZ Data Value Not Set
16:40:24 <ljeanbeans> I have no idea about the notepad, maybe you mistook me for a knowledgeable person LOL
16:41:10 <ljeanbeans> I mean, the filext.com is just showing me info - not specifically about my system http://filext.com/file-extension/cmd
16:41:15 <warlord> Well, I dont do windows, so...
16:41:22 <warlord> ... you're asking the wrong person for help.
16:41:34 <warlord> I dont know why your system is screwey, but it works for everyone else.
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16:44:15 <ljeanbeans> Hey, that's okay...I probably shouldn't even care. <jsled> I don't know how or why "notepad" is involved. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307859 <ljeanbeans> Yes, that opened my file in gnucash
16:47:11 <warlord> Well, at least now double-clicking on your data file will do the right thing
16:51:19 <ljeanbeans> Yes, I can access it. Guess I better get going
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17:21:05 <mib_oxsino> hi how do i change the language on gnucash ?
17:25:38 <jsled> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_I_want_to_use_GnuCash_in_my_own_language
17:29:50 <mib_oxsino> LANGUAGE=de_DE LANG=de_DE
17:30:03 <mib_oxsino> but whats i need to write for slovak language
17:30:24 <warlord> de_DE is german
17:30:35 <warlord> you need whatever the iso language code it. sl? sv?
17:30:38 <mib_oxsino> i know
17:30:42 <mib_oxsino> but i need slovak
17:31:32 <mib_oxsino> ok i have it
17:31:32 <mib_oxsino> SK SVK 703
17:36:27 <mib_oxsino> one more question
17:36:36 <mib_oxsino> which file i need to update ?
17:36:53 <mib_oxsino> im running win7
17:38:05 <jsled> "On Windows, a good place to set your language preference is in gnucash.cmd. By default this file is installed in c:\\Program Files\gnucash\bin. Change this file such that the last few lines are:"
17:38:10 <jsled> From the link.
17:43:16 <mib_oxsino> fucking win
17:43:22 <mib_oxsino> i cant rewrite the file
17:50:20 <jsled> why's that?
17:50:39 <mib_oxsino> i dont have premision
17:50:45 <mib_oxsino> but i did that another way
17:50:51 <mib_oxsino> but i have still eng
17:52:07 <mib_oxsino> is there another way to change the language ?
17:55:05 <jsled> no
17:55:10 <jsled> that's the way to change the language.
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18:35:30 <warlord> well, the other way is to change your whole system..
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19:14:50 <scar> i have some invoices that i needed to unpost, and they are kind of just sitting there. is there anyway to recycle them? like assign a different customer to them?
19:23:49 <warlord> Sure.
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19:43:44 <scar> warlord: how do i do that?
19:43:58 <warlord> Edit the invoice.
19:44:08 <warlord> Then Select the new customer.
19:44:15 <warlord> (from the Edit Invoice dialog)
19:44:26 <warlord> ... after you click "Edit"
19:45:40 <scar> great, thanks
19:46:52 <scar> good bye
19:50:25 <warlord> later
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