2010-05-03 GnuCash IRC logs

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09:51:07 <warlord> jsled: can you op gncbot?
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10:01:24 <raleightile> what is the best way to find all transactions for the last week?
10:01:24 <gncbot> raleightile: Sent 3 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour, and 3 minutes ago: <warlord> No, I was offline all weekend and did not see it.
10:01:47 <warlord> raleightile: Edit -> Find
10:01:57 <warlord> (or use the GL)
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10:09:25 <raleightile> what is the GL
10:09:45 <raleightile> the logs
10:20:39 <warlord> General Ledger
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11:37:54 <warlord> @op
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11:37:58 <warlord> thanks jsled
11:38:04 <warlord> Damn comcrap
11:47:16 <mishehu> it's cumcastic!
11:47:42 <warlord> heh
11:47:45 <mishehu> I hope that put good imagery into your mind about what the cable co is doing to do
11:48:01 <mishehu> I like to call it "digital bukake"
11:48:08 <mishehu> but tell you the truth, ma bell ain't any better
11:48:20 <mishehu> and I got uverser 18/1.5
11:49:23 <mishehu> and they still suck
11:50:31 <warlord> I wish Verizon would come down here. FiOS is excellent.
11:51:24 <mishehu> well uverse isn't so bad except that they make you use this retarded 2wire 3800hgv residential gateway that doesn't seem to understand that dmz means "don't fsck with my packets"
11:52:16 <mishehu> I have a /29 subnet routed to me, and I can only assign one address to one MAC address. it kinda kills having your own firewall/nat/router...
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11:56:19 <warlord> Yep. I have a colleauge who's had U-Verse and I've heard all the bad about it.
11:56:22 <warlord> Also, the 1.5 up sucks
11:56:38 <warlord> ... and there's no way to see their upload speeds on their website.
11:56:56 <warlord> I have 20/4 from Comcast. I could probably go up to 50/10 if I wanted, but this is good enough for now.
11:57:26 <mishehu> I can't get cumcastic here. I have worse... timewarner
11:57:57 <mishehu> the option is between that company which will reset your tcp connections or that company which will cap your internet usage randomly.
12:00:30 <warlord> heh
12:03:07 <mishehu> s/option/difference
12:03:13 <mishehu> sorry it's a monday :-)
12:03:25 <warlord> No worries.
12:06:00 <mishehu> gah win7 really annoys me with its clock. for some reason vista handled sysclock as UTC just fine, but win7 keeps resetting the damn thing
12:07:01 <mishehu> gnucash works fine in win7 though in case you were wondering :-)
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12:27:31 <warlord> good to know
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18:24:13 <mib_oshlj3> hi
18:25:10 <mib_oshlj3> Lots tool calculates gain or loss and use an account called orphaned-gains to track them.
18:25:25 <mib_oshlj3> Is it possible to choose the account (or account name) that tracks these changes?
18:25:35 <warlord> probably not
18:26:02 <mib_oshlj3> thanks
18:26:21 <mib_oshlj3> i dont like the name og this account :)
18:27:28 <warlord> i suspect it's hard-coded
18:27:53 <warlord> mib_oshlj3: why did you send mail to gnucash-user after you asked here?
18:28:06 <warlord> Didn't like my answer, so asking again to see if you get a different one?
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18:28:09 <warlord> ;-)
18:28:42 <mib_oshlj3> I came here for a quick answer...
18:29:10 <warlord> k
18:29:14 <warlord> anyways, gotta run
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18:46:55 <mib_oshlj3> Lets suppose that i own 50 shares IBM shares that bought in 2008 and another 50 IBM shares that bought in 2009. Total shares owned 100
18:49:02 <mib_oshlj3> My main currency is EUR so i exchanged it for USD (at different rates for each transaction) in order to buy them
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18:50:39 <mib_oshlj3> Now in 2010 i sell all of them and i convert my USD cash back to EUR (different exchange rate again)
18:51:50 <mib_oshlj3> How i track my gain/loss in EUR that comes from these three different exchange rates
18:51:54 <mib_oshlj3> ?
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22:56:42 <pekster> I'm debating the merits of splitting income into tax and non-tax groups from regular pay so I can have reports factor it out when I want. Is this a reasonable method, or am I approaching the problem the wrong way?
22:59:39 <warlord> It's probably reasonable
23:00:45 <pekster> It seemed to look okay in a test workbook I created, but I didn't know if there was some special way to make reports discard it or something. I didn't see a good way to do that - excluding the tax expense still shows the income itself, and sometimes I want to see just income I have control over
23:01:23 <pekster> Outside of more work for me (to split each paystub into its tax/non-tax parts) I didn't see a downside
23:03:55 <warlord> Note that you only have to split the paystub once. Then on subsequent pay-days you only need duplicate that transaction and adjust the values appropriately.
23:04:22 <pekster> Yes, that feature worked wonderfully, although I had to label any bonus pay differently otherwise that method broke :P
23:05:30 <warlord> Yep.
23:05:41 <pekster> I guess the danger in splitting it is that I let it auto-add the total from each of the tax line-items since the total is a fraction of the gross pay, so I risk a typo messing up my numbers. Par for the course when I let the PC start thinking for me I guess
23:06:17 <warlord> yep.
23:06:30 <pekster> Okay, cool. Godo to know I'm not off my rocker here
23:06:31 <warlord> I dont let it think for me. I enter the numbers directly off my pay stub
23:07:27 <pekster> Right, but normally I'd enter the gross pay first and the act of going through the line items would reach that same total. If I classify it as 2 different income categories there's no adding up to the gross total since I am treating it internally as 2 separate gross totals
23:08:05 <pekster> Or do you suggest I do this all in one giant transaction?
23:08:21 <warlord> I just take my paycheck and split it in a single giant transaction.. because it *IS* only one transaction.
23:09:38 <pekster> I wasn't sure if that would make the reports keep the categories separate, but I suppose they just ignore what isn't included when generating them
23:10:03 <warlord> it depends on the report, but generally yes.
23:10:56 <pekster> Great, thanks for the input
23:16:27 <warlord> you're welcome
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