2010-04-07 GnuCash IRC logs

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01:34:56 <intangir> what does the 'R' column on the transations page mean?
01:34:59 <intangir> it has n or c
01:37:21 <intangir> oh i see it is for reconciliation
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05:52:15 <Simpson_2> hi all
05:55:02 <Simpson_2> whats the general active TZ of this channel ?
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08:38:41 <warlord> Simpson_2: US/ET, generally
08:45:27 <kimmo> or EET
08:52:06 <warlord> We do have some CEST people...
08:52:14 <warlord> BUt I think generally the channel lives on US/ET
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08:58:11 <warlord> @tell raleightile No, I was offline all weekend and did not see it.
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09:56:49 <Simpson_2> is it safe to just dump any question here ?
09:56:59 <Simpson_2> or do I start a flame war then ?:)
09:58:43 <warlord> Depends on the question ;)
10:00:26 <Simpson_2> I moving away from a ugly windows based solution, and exploring gnucash ( currently on 2.3.11 )
10:00:49 <Simpson_2> what I miss ( or can't find ) is the us of banknumbers for transactions which Import form my bank
10:01:20 <Simpson_2> e.g. a friend payed his share in our holiday via wire transfer, i see the transaction but not his account number
10:01:33 <Simpson_2> is that a setting, feature request or dumb question ? :)
10:02:58 <warlord> How are you importing it?
10:03:27 <Simpson_2> ofx
10:03:31 <Simpson_2> and its in the file
10:04:26 <warlord> Hmm.. I don't know enough about the ofx importer. It should store all the data somewhere. Did you expand the transaction and turn on double-line-mode?>
10:06:19 <Simpson_2> yup, what would be the place that is should show up??
10:07:05 <warlord> I dont know. Either in the split memo or the transaction notes.
10:07:07 <warlord> Maybe
10:07:16 <warlord> It's possible that the importer drops it on the floor..
10:08:03 <Simpson_2> and is the NR column intended for that ? ( I do use a NLS version )
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10:11:52 <Simpson_2> Num column that is
10:14:02 <warlord> The NUM column is generally for the check #
10:15:17 <Simpson_2> okay, so there is no spot for account numbers for 3rd parties then
10:16:40 <warlord> Not specifically. Account Numbers would be put into a memo or note.
10:17:17 <Simpson_2> okay, so not easy to search through
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10:20:23 <intangir> whats the best way to set it up for multiple users?
10:20:38 <intangir> i read there was a sql multiuser thing but i couldnt see how to set it up anywhere
10:20:54 <jsled> there's an sql backend; it's not multiuser
10:21:13 <jsled> there's no multiuser support in gnucash, besides serial/non-concurrent access.
10:21:42 <warlord> Simpson_2: sorry, not particularly. What app were you using before and where did it store it?
10:23:28 <Simpson_2> warlord, some dutch app
10:23:46 <Simpson_2> and that had a seperate field which you could search for
10:23:53 <warlord> Ah, so something more custom, not something like Quicken or MSMoney
10:23:59 <Simpson_2> nono
10:24:11 <Simpson_2> it sucked on all other fronts though ;)
10:24:27 <warlord> Well, GnuCash is open source.. The info SHOULD be available to GnuCash even if GNC is throwing it away. You could write a small patch to store it.
10:24:55 <Simpson_2> yeah well, its not that huge problem, I was just wondering
10:25:46 <Simpson_2> the only thing I really would love is a switch while building to kick out all the business features
10:28:40 <warlord> Yeah, sorry. There's no --disable-biz
10:29:15 <Simpson_2> that i figured out already :)
10:32:13 <intangir> jsled: what do you mean by backend, does it use it for saving? or does it just use it interally and still save only to files?
10:32:39 <jsled> yes, it saves to the DB.
10:32:50 <intangir> how do i use it like that
10:32:54 <jsled> (or to the traditional files, with the file backend)
10:33:12 <jsled> it's in the 2.3.x development series.
10:33:21 <jsled> And … I don't know, actually.
10:33:33 <jsled> I believe it just "shows up" when you do File > Save As … ?
10:33:38 <intangir> oh
10:34:34 <intangir> do the file formats for the way it saves out change alot between minor version releases?
10:34:46 <intangir> cause i installed on ubuntu from repos an its a few releases behind
10:34:51 <intangir> and my wife just installed on windows
10:35:23 <intangir> we wanted to both be able to access (i guess non-concurrently) the same data
10:36:15 <jsled> between minor versions, no, it should be fine.
10:36:44 <jsled> There are issues if you bounce between 2.0 and 2.2, but … you should have 2.2.x on both, right?
10:36:58 <Simpson_2> intangir, I use centralized Postgres DB here, and can use it with mulitple people
10:37:23 <Simpson_2> intangir, but I do use the 2.3 unstable tree
10:38:18 <warlord> Simpson_2: and I hope you make sure two users are not running gnucash at the same time???
10:38:26 <jsled> note that there is explicitly no support for multiple concurrent users. behavior is *undefined*.
10:39:44 <Simpson_2> :)
10:40:03 <Simpson_2> its indeed just me, using it from different computers
10:40:54 <jsled> you should still probably restart them; who knows what the instances have cached without being aware of the other instance's changes?
10:44:21 <Simpson_2> yeah its done like that in general
10:44:56 <Simpson_2> I want my financial data to be accesible wherever I am
10:45:21 <Simpson_2> so I run it from my workstation mostly, but now and then access it from the laptop over VPN when on the road
10:46:47 <warlord> Simpson_2: I run it on my laptop, which is always where I am.. :)
10:47:00 <warlord> I wouldn't want to have to secure a PG server.
10:47:30 <Simpson_2> huh ?
10:50:58 <warlord> Well, if you want it accessible from wherever you are, that could be at your house, at your work, at your parents' house, from an hotel room in Tokyo..... I wouldn't want to have to secure the PG server on the 'net to allow it to be accessible from everywhere!
10:51:25 <Simpson_2> I think I've mention VPN ? :)
10:55:42 <intangir> jsled: i have 2.2 on both ya
10:56:06 <intangir> thanks for the answers
10:56:25 <intangir> i managed to plug in a ton of my data last night, i just picked this up
10:56:44 <intangir> got all the stuff from 2 of my accounts that exported as qif
10:57:06 <intangir> planning on plugging the rest of it in in the next couple days
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11:46:46 <Simpson_2> if I want to change a transaction ( the account specificaly ) i don't see the whole tree, only the accounts, is there a way to change this ?
12:39:06 <warlord> What do you mean that you don't "see the whole tree"? When you expand the transfer account you see the whole tree flattened out.
12:46:24 <Simpson_2> how to explain :)...
12:47:08 <jsled> no, you don't see it in a tree-like way.
12:47:09 <Simpson_2> when I open a account, i can see in which other account a transaction is made
12:47:48 <Simpson_2> when i hit the button I see a drop down list, and I hoped it would use the seperation as set in your settings
12:48:05 <Simpson_2> 'colon' so e.g. transport:car:gas
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12:48:56 <Simpson_2> now I just get 2 times 'gas' while there is also a transport:motorbike:gas
12:51:21 <warlord> Simpson_2: I still dont understand what you're complaining about.
12:51:56 <jsled> you want maybe sub-string autocomplete?
12:53:11 <Simpson_2> I'm trying to find a screenshot in the doc repository ;)
12:53:32 <warlord> Or you can make a screenshot?
12:54:27 <Simpson_2> ey thats interesting, the screenshots show what I want :)
12:55:13 <Simpson_2> ah it is a setting :P
12:55:28 <Simpson_2> only show leaf accounts
12:57:15 <Simpson_2> thx for the help :)
12:57:25 <warlord> you're welcome
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13:04:20 <kimmo> hrm, anyone know of a good "rebuttal toolbox" in my crusade to get my friends and family start bookkeeping, when they use standard claims such as "We don't have so much income/assets that it would make sense", or "It's too hard", or "Irrespective of the income level, everything goes"?
13:14:06 <jsled> imo, it's when you don't have much income that bookeeping/budgeting is most important.
13:14:45 <jsled> how do you know where to change spending (budgeting) if you don't know what you're spending on (bookkeeping)?
13:15:10 <jsled> At the same time … why are you on a "crusade" to get other people to do stuff they don't want to? :)
13:17:12 <kimmo> jsled, I totally agree, but the age old wisdom of "The people who should be keeping books are the ones who don't"
13:17:34 <kimmo> and I'm on a crusade because I'm sort of tired of all the whining and complaining
13:17:59 <kimmo> plus I'm also tired of continuously having to give reactive advice
13:20:45 <kimmo> like this one guy from the wife's side of the family; Works a steady job, lives in a mortgage-free flat paying only the common maintenance, has no minor kids, no tuition charges in Finland, and still can't save a dime
13:21:07 <warlord> Heh
13:23:44 <kimmo> also, I'd like to make my wife (a stay-at-home mommy who gets a nice 1700 EUR/month salary and some 450 EUR/month from the government) realize how much she's spending on crap she doesn't need
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14:16:10 <cfp> hey. i'm running my gnucash plugin with an sqllite3 db for the first time, and i keep getting "unable to save to database" messages popping up
14:16:15 <cfp> any ideas?
14:23:50 <warlord> Whats your plugin doing?
14:24:13 <cfp> creating customers and/or invoices
14:24:29 <cfp> it works fine with the xml backend
14:27:59 <warlord> cfp: Hmm... are you using the begin and commit edit calls properly?
14:28:35 <cfp> i'm calling begin before beginning and commit afterwards...
14:31:10 <warlord> Are you calling "save"?
14:32:33 <warlord> Any messages in gnucash.trace?
14:32:57 <warlord> that popup is the result of a callback from the engine when there is an error.
14:33:16 <cfp> i'm not calling save
14:33:19 <cfp> should i be?
14:33:39 <warlord> No.
14:33:44 <warlord> Just wanted to make sure.
14:34:20 <warlord> Strangely the callback ignores the QofBackendError completely. :(
14:34:49 <cfp> i think it's maybe me being stupid. because i tried to save as sqllite again (prior to running the plugin again) and now it popped up a message saying it can't connect to sqllite://etc
14:36:23 <cfp> "The server at URL sqllite:// ... experienced an error or encountered bad or corrupt data"
14:36:47 <warlord> only one l: sqlite
14:38:29 <cfp> * 19:35:53 CRIT <gnc.backend.dbi> [sqlite3_error_fn()] DBI error: 1: table sqlite_sequence may not be dropped
14:38:29 <cfp> * 19:35:53 CRIT <gnc.backend.dbi> [sqlite3_error_fn()] DBI error: 14: unable to open database file
14:39:43 <cfp> previos messages:
14:39:44 <cfp> * 19:35:24 INFO <gnc.backend.dbi> [gnc_dbi_check_sqlite3_file] exists, does not have SQLite format string -> not DBI
14:39:44 <cfp> * 19:35:46 INFO <gnc.backend.dbi> [gnc_dbi_check_sqlite3_file] has SQLite format string -> DBI
14:39:44 <cfp> * 19:35:46 DEBUG <gnc.backend.dbi> [enter gnc-backend-dbi.c:gnc_dbi_sqlite3_session_begin()]
14:39:44 <cfp> * 19:35:46 DEBUG <gnc.backend.dbi> [leave gnc_dbi_sqlite3_session_begin()]
14:39:45 <cfp> * 19:35:53 DEBUG <gnc.backend.dbi> [enter gnc-backend-dbi.c:gnc_dbi_sync_all()] book=0x99f3190, primary=(nil)
14:40:00 <warlord> cfp: please use pastebin for > 3 lines
14:40:16 <cfp> ahh yeah sorry i realised that after pasting. one sec.
14:40:26 <warlord> dont worry about it now
14:40:48 <warlord> Umm... You probably need Phil's help for that.
14:43:23 <cfp> i'll try mysql instead
14:48:39 <warlord> ok
14:49:30 <Simpson_2> okay /me starts to lke gnucash
14:49:34 <Simpson_2> like even
14:50:28 <warlord> :)
14:59:00 <cfp> mysql seems to work fine
15:00:06 <cfp> oh actually scratch that... just noticed the terminal window is full of "xaccOpenLog(): cannot open journal 13 Permission denied"
15:00:45 <warlord> Cool!
15:01:10 <warlord> I'm not sure what path it uses for the log file if you're using mysql.
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15:04:43 <andi5> warlord: ping
15:05:30 <warlord> andi5: pong! (hey there!)
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15:06:53 <andi5> warlord: hi :) any idea what http://pastebin.ca/raw/1858108 means?
15:08:12 <andi5> oh
15:08:19 <andi5> do not mind, i am just stupid
15:08:27 <andi5> (http instead of svn+ssh)
15:09:02 <warlord> That would do it.
15:09:42 <andi5> i am so used to my companies setup now, so i typed without thinking :)
15:09:54 <andi5> company's?
15:13:05 <warlord> the latter.
15:22:22 <andi5> any reason http://gnucash.org/download.phtml#distribution does not promote 2.3.11? why are the mac versions older, latest_unstable_mac_ppc even seems to be unused :) (too many emails to read, i am marking bunches of them as "read")
15:23:20 <Simpson_2> I import everything with OFX, but when I generate reports I see this: OFX ext. info: |Trans type:Generic debit|Memo:ING BANK NV PRODUKTREKENING
15:23:38 <Simpson_2> but in the accounts itself I can't see ths information
15:25:05 <andi5> Simpson_2: are those split notes? maybe it helps to change the ledger style to auto-split or something like that
15:26:43 <Simpson_2> andi5, I have really no way of finding it in the normal interface
15:26:46 <warlord> andi5: because 2.3.x is still in testing?
15:27:00 <andi5> warlord: 2.3.10 is listed though
15:27:14 <warlord> Was 2.3.11 released?
15:27:55 <andi5> there is an announcement from 2010-03-19
15:28:07 <warlord> Simpson_2: Expand the transaction (click on the Split button) and turn on double-line mode (View -> Double Line Mode)
15:28:22 <warlord> andi5: Then it was probably an oversight of the release.
15:28:53 <Simpson_2> warlord, nope
15:29:18 <warlord> You say it shows up in a report --- what report?
15:29:29 <andi5> Simpson_2: neither view -> transaction journal, nor view -> doble line mode show it?
15:29:34 <Simpson_2> nope
15:29:40 <Simpson_2> transaction report
15:29:43 <warlord> @op andi5
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15:29:58 <warlord> what column?
15:31:59 <Simpson_2> memo/remarkt
15:32:28 <Simpson_2> memo/notes
15:36:03 <Simpson_2> I imported my bankaccount with OFX
15:36:08 <warlord> Simpson_2: then it would show up in either the split memo in an expanded transaction or in the notes field in double-line mode.
15:36:27 <Simpson_2> all the lines on my backacount are okay, but on the 'counterpart' this line shows up
15:36:46 <warlord> Show me a screen dump of the txn report and then the register showing that exact same transaction in expanded/split and double-line mode.
15:40:36 <cfp> hmm, post import with mysql, if i go to find customer and do a search for " " in the name field i get a seg fault
15:41:24 <Simpson_2> warlord, its not there in any of the views, it only shows up in the reports
15:41:39 <Simpson_2> even looking at the database doesn't reveal it
15:41:48 <warlord> Simpson_2: Sorry, but I dont believe you.
15:42:09 <Simpson_2> I had that impresion already
15:42:12 <warlord> Show me a screen shots.
15:45:00 <cfp> invoice searches are also seg faulting...
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15:45:43 <andi5> cfp: 2.3.10?
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15:48:33 <cfp> head
15:48:58 <cfp> r19004m
15:50:38 <warlord> Simpson_2: you're not in double-line mode.
15:50:39 <cfp> it might be "bad data" since it seems a few customer ids have ended up with non ascii numeric chars in them
15:51:55 <Simpson_2> warlord, ah there it is
15:51:57 <warlord> What's a "nonascii numeric"?
15:52:13 <warlord> Simpson_2: And this is why I didn't believe you.. :-D
15:52:30 <Simpson_2> I hope you know the program better then I do ,)
15:52:54 <warlord> Well, it's been years since I personally did any significant development.
15:53:32 <Simpson_2> warlord, new mail on the way
15:54:59 <warlord> Simpson_2: yep, and there it is.
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15:57:33 <Simpson_2> warlord, but it doesn't look correct does it ??
16:01:16 <warlord> Define "correct"?
16:02:57 <Simpson_2> the line looks odd to me, and why does it show it in the report
16:06:49 <warlord> Because you told it to display the notes in the report.
16:07:08 <warlord> if you dont want it there then edit the report options to turn off that field.
16:16:47 <andi5> cfp: anything reproducible?
16:18:27 <Simpson_2> warlord, sorry was on the phone
16:19:00 <Simpson_2> if I disable it, I don't see the memo on the counter account in the transaction report, or is that the idea ?
16:19:26 <Simpson_2> that you need to fill in the memo on the other account by hand ?
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16:24:14 <warlord> Simpson_2: You can keep "memo" but turn off "notes"
16:25:58 <Simpson_2> and how do I do that ?
16:26:00 <cfp> andi5: sorry, my dinner arrived. given this database it's 100% reproducible. but i think i'm legally prevented from sharing it
16:26:43 <andi5> cfp: maybe you find another way to reproduce it, beginning from a sharable (e.g. empty) file
16:27:41 <andi5> cfp: i have not tried the sql features yet, but i think i have read that mysql support is not tested as well as the other backends, so i might give it a try
16:28:17 <cfp> well i couldn't even get started with the sqlite engine
16:28:33 <cfp> i guess i could try postgre
16:28:41 <andi5> you are on linux, i suppose?
16:29:02 <warlord> Simpson_2: As I said before, in the report options.
16:29:23 <warlord> [Options] -> Display -> Notes
16:30:02 <warlord> cfp: if you can repro on sqlite then file a bug report
16:30:24 <andi5> warlord: do you have a screenshot showing the notes in the register?
16:30:28 <Simpson_2> warlord, ah yeah, that I figured out, but I would like to have the same memo on both accounts
16:30:48 <Simpson_2> now I only see the memo in the report on the bank account, and not on my e.g. gas account
16:30:54 <cfp> yeah. building on windows was more hassle that it was worth
16:31:38 <cfp> i'll try cleaning up my data pre-import to see if any of them are better behaved in that case
16:31:42 <andi5> cfp: that is good, i hate having to run windows in my spare time (and i do not need to at work, yeehaw)
16:32:01 <Simpson_2> warlord, anyway thx for your patience and help, bedtime for me now
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16:32:59 <warlord> @tell Simpson_2 if you want the same memo on both accounts then you need to manually duplicate the memo into both sets of splits.
16:32:59 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
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18:01:12 <nbdarvin> hello
18:01:27 <nbdarvin> i have proposal for GSoC and looking for a mentor
18:06:01 <warlord> Unfortunately we were not accepted as a GSoC mentoring organization this year.
18:06:16 <kimmo> :o
18:06:44 <kimmo> s,GSoC,a new feature,
18:07:35 <marina> are you guys not part of GNOME?
18:08:55 <jsled> nope
18:09:07 <warlord> Nope, we are not part of GNOME.
18:09:19 <warlord> nbdarvin: did you have a proposal for a Gnucash feature?
18:12:04 <nbdarvin> warlord: no, I want to write my own personal money manager )
18:12:25 <warlord> nbdarvin: why?
18:13:12 <kimmo> pardon me, but what exactly is understood by "personal money manager"?
18:13:21 <nbdarvin> warlord: i want to develop simple, easy to extend and to use application
18:15:06 <nbdarvin> kimmo: program for account personal finances, analysis. it will assistant to pay on bills, calculate estimating cash, etc
18:15:26 <jsled> That's a very broad GSoC mandate.
18:15:34 <jsled> And … there's already a bunch of apps like that.
18:15:48 <jsled> you should focus more on adding to them, rather than writing your own.
18:16:10 <jsled> Unless there's just cause to start from scratch, which is debatable.
18:18:05 <kimmo> nbdarvin, what kind of features that gnucash is missing, exactly? I currently input all future payments the instant I know of them, and use the Note/Memo column to indicate the status of them (Approximate amount, known amount but not yet input to internet banking, amount if income due known but date approximate, etc...
18:19:31 <jsled> kimmo: I shouldn't answer for them, but the analysis side is most lacking. Estimation, budgeting, &c.
18:19:46 <nbdarvin> kimmo: tags for transactions; synchronizing with Evolution
18:20:11 <kimmo> jsled, estimation as in what? budgeting as in what?
18:20:27 <kimmo> nbdarvin, evolution as in the mail client?
18:21:07 <warlord> adding txn tags would be a cool feature to add.
18:21:32 <nbdarvin> kimmo: yes, default Gnome's mail client/PIM. I want to make simple software that can become part of Gnome desktop
18:22:19 <nbdarvin> kimmo: synchronizing with evolution's calendar, of course
18:23:16 <kimmo> nbdarvin, could you elaborate a bit? I use both gnucash and evolution extensively, and I don't understand what you want to accomplish :D
18:23:51 <warlord> nbdarvin: what would it mean to "synchronize gnucash to evolution calendar"?
18:26:06 <nbdarvin> warlord/kimmo: synchronize gnucash's sheduled transactions as events to evolution's calendar, it is beginning
18:26:28 * warlord doesn't use evo which is why he doesn't care. ;)
18:27:05 <nbdarvin> warlord/kimmo: second, make plugin for evolution that allow user to create for example transactions from evolutions interface
18:28:36 <nbdarvin> warlord/kimmo: "April 8. Event: I go to the Mall." in that evolution's window is button "Money stuff">"Spend ~50$ for it"
18:29:37 <warlord> Why not just have evo bring up the gnucash UI? Are you suggesting embedding a gnucash register within EVO?
18:29:37 <kimmo> ook
18:30:26 <kimmo> I have entries in gnucash in the future such as "600 EUR on vacation expenses" against my amex
18:30:48 <kimmo> then again, I don't use my evolution calendar as I can't sync it easily enough with my cellphone
18:30:51 <warlord> kimmo: as an SX or just a post-dated txn?
18:31:09 <kimmo> warlord, just a regular entry on a future date
18:31:42 <warlord> right, I wouldn't expect that to show up in evo. It would be kinda cool for future SXes to show up, I guess...
18:31:55 <warlord> But I dont use Evo, so none of this is at all interesting to me
18:32:32 <warlord> I can certainly see some of the reasoning.. And it WOULD be nice to have gnucash be able to generate PDF invoices and email them to customers automatically.
18:32:45 <kimmo> warlord, with an "ook?" on the Memo column, so that I remember that expense when keeping my transaction for "Credit card bill" between "Amex" and "CC Settlement" up-to-date, for keeping my "CC settlement " <-> "Bank.Primary" transaction up-to-date
18:33:31 <kimmo> can I have an hours reporting system integrated in gnucash? PReferably one that I can specify the task in, and gnc would automatically know which tasks are billable and not?
18:33:34 <kimmo> ;)
18:35:41 <warlord> kimmo: I'd rather see a gnotime -> gnucash integration. You use gnotime to measure the time spent, and then push it into GnuCash for invoicing.
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18:37:00 <kimmo> gnotime? never heard of that, but will look into that
18:38:41 <warlord> it's a project time tracker
18:41:46 <warlord> Anyways, time for dinner.
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23:33:12 <intangir> what am i doing wrong here, it seems the implimentation of split transactions is freaking terrible
23:33:43 <intangir> 5 times ive managed to fail to enter it right, 3 of the times as soon as i entered it it disappears and shows up in other accounts or shows up as an auto completed option but not where i put it
23:33:50 <intangir> and now the last two times it just disappeared, no where to be found...
23:34:11 <intangir> im trying to follow the instructions verbatim but each time i accidently press enter on a field it just .. disappears!
23:34:14 <intangir> enter ruins it
23:34:25 <intangir> i have to manually click another row for it to give me an extra row without it disappearing..
23:34:38 <intangir> but i have 6 damn rows im splitting it into so each time i have to start over its extremely frustrating
23:35:05 <intangir> theres no undo, and it cant be found, it just disappears or winds up in USD:Imbalance incomplete and not where it should be
23:37:12 <intangir> its also agrivating cause i have to keep entering t he damn FIT..
23:37:19 <intangir> you know, the federal intimidation theft ;)
23:37:26 <intangir> its agrivating to know how much they illegally steal each month
23:40:42 <intangir> anyone have any idea what GTL might mean on an paycheck statement?
23:40:51 <intangir> it also labels that value as 'less IMPUTED INCOME'
23:43:38 <intangir> oh i found one of the other incomplete attempts..
23:43:47 <intangir> oh well i managed to finish one this time and it seems to have worked
23:54:27 <jsled> intangir: disappearing splits usually mean there's not a split that corresponds to the current account …
23:54:48 <jsled> Account registers are just "views" of "all transactions that contain a split referencing the account".
23:55:19 <jsled> Enter is a bit special, as it enters the whole transaction … try just tab, or the arrow keys to move between splits.
23:55:38 <jsled> no, there's no undo.
23:56:33 <jsled> I don't know what either FIT or GTL are, or how taxes defined by law are illegal, but that's probably out-of-scope for this channel. :)