2010-02-24 GnuCash IRC logs

00:38:17 *** jsled changes topic to " Free GPL Personal and Small Business Accounting || Please don't ask to ask, just ask and wait! || publically-logged channel || latest stable: 2.2.9 || www.gnucash.org"
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01:20:22 <tao_> I am using Windows 7, how can I pin Gnucash to the start menu or taskbar?
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11:22:12 <mackwic> hello all
11:22:51 <mackwic> arf, bad channel, sorry
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12:34:14 <dashs> Trying to set up a brokerage account -- bonds - corp and muni plus stocks and money mkt
12:34:47 <dashs> IS there a precise tutorial for this (every keystroke)?
12:36:12 <jsled> http://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.0/C/gnucash-guide/chapter8.html is the closest, I think.
12:36:24 <jsled> Though there might be some good material in the gnucash-user mailing list archives.
12:37:30 <dashs> jsled: thanks
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12:42:54 <david> hi all, could you make me a quick intro how the UI does refresh ? When the GUI rereads the datasource.
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12:44:54 <david> It seems it reads whole the file when opening (connecting) to the database. It probably tracks the changes just made from GUI.
12:45:29 <david> But it does not refresh GUI when no change is tracked (from the GUI).
12:46:03 <david> Can you imagine a simple change that would enable to refresh GUI even without the change tracked.
12:47:02 <david> This is needed for concurrent usage - and refreshing from datasource/database - to display changes performed by other users.
12:47:07 <jsled> right.
12:47:13 <jsled> there isn't much of that.
12:47:20 <jsled> it would require some serious re-architecting.
12:50:20 <jsled> The engine objects did have some signals for change events.
12:50:31 <jsled> And part of the design of QOF is to create queries that can be re-evaluated.
12:50:46 <jsled> But … usage of things in that way is not uniform.
12:55:21 <david> is that in the roadmap for the next major development, I mean 2.5/2.6
12:55:22 <david> <
12:55:26 <david> ?
12:55:43 <jsled> I can't say; there's never been much of a roadmap for gnucash.
12:56:44 <jsled> but your best bet is to look through recent gnucash-devel archives and see if anyone's been talking about it
12:56:57 <jsled> I'm a bit out of orbit on recent development
12:58:26 <david> and, please, how does GUI track the changes?
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12:58:54 <david> it should be a temporary structure
12:59:01 <jsled> track what changes?
12:59:24 <david> the changes that the GUI reflects
13:00:02 <david> it is probably a structure that when... something... then it refreshes GUI
13:00:04 <david> Ide>
13:00:08 <david> Idea:
13:02:07 <david> if we populate the structure by an other way, it would work without huge rearchitecting, don't we?
13:02:07 <david> I mean, to populate the structure - triggered by an database event
13:02:24 <jsled> that's way to vague and general to respond to.
13:02:29 <jsled> s/to/too/
13:02:39 <david> I see...
13:03:45 <david> I do not understand the mechanism...
13:04:04 <david> so I am not able to speak more concretely
13:04:22 <david> is there anyone interested in the topic?
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13:05:11 <gjanssens> Hi, what version of active perl should be installed on Windows for Finance::Quote ?
13:05:28 <gjanssens> Wiki says 5.10 (which I guess is correct)
13:05:47 <gjanssens> But the windows iss installer script still talks of 5.8
13:05:55 <gjanssens> Should I update the latter ?
13:06:45 <david> anyone who understands GC structures/development?
13:07:31 * gjanssens is a GC developer, but fairly new to it
13:07:42 <gjanssens> Just to say, I know a little bit.
13:08:09 <jsled> gjanssens: backscroll at http://lists.gnucash.org/logs/2010/02/2010-02-24.html#T12:41:20
13:10:52 <david> gjanssens: did you react to my question ? >>gjanssens Just to say, I know a little bit
13:11:44 <david> gjanssens: take back, sorry
13:12:30 <dashs> In the Security Editor, what "Namespace-Type" might be used for bonds?
13:12:45 <gjanssens> david: just read the earlier conversation. I don't know that part of GC, sorry.
13:14:01 <david> jsled: who lead the database backend development?
13:15:44 <david> who leads ... who is most interested in the database backend utilisation
13:17:36 <jsled> I believe it's phil longstaff who's done most of the db backend work in 2.3/2.4.
13:17:46 <jsled> david: you might want to approach the gnucash-devel mailing list generally, though.
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13:21:44 <david> jsled, ok, thanks
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17:37:38 <dashs> In the Security Editor, what "Namespace-Type" might be used for bonds?
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20:44:05 <KaiForce> anyone using PNC Bank online? I have to start using them in April. Its not clear from the Wiki page if the PNC bank in the DC area is the same as NE Ohio (National City Bank) & Pittsburgh
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23:21:48 <Mer|in> is there a keyboard shortcut for opening a split?
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23:25:51 <warlord> Mer|in: no, i do not believe so
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