2010-02-20 GnuCash IRC logs
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08:00:32 <warlord> @nick gncbot
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08:00:43 <warlord> jsled, linas: when you wake up could you op gncbot?
08:10:30 <gjanssens> warlord: good morning
08:10:47 <gjanssens> question: do we still support Windows 2000 ?
08:11:32 <gjanssens> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504261 is triggered because of an old workaround for Windows 2000
08:12:13 <gjanssens> I'd prefer to remove the workaround (meaning: use a more up to date gnome-vfs library than W2K supports)
08:15:40 <gjanssens> Sorry, that should have been https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=610348
08:15:55 <gjanssens> The other one is close already
08:18:25 <gjanssens> s/close/closed/
08:21:01 <warlord> I'm happy to not support W2k in 2.4
08:21:15 <warlord> I think it's reasonable to assume XP+
08:21:36 <warlord> oh, and good morning, gjanssens (or would that be good afternoon for you?)
08:22:12 <gjanssens> afternoon here indeed
08:22:22 <gjanssens> Ok, I'll update the dependencies
08:22:52 <gjanssens> While we're talking dependencies
08:23:20 <gjanssens> Are you ok with glib 2.12 instead of 2.6 (see my mail for more motivation)
08:32:49 <warlord> Yeah, I read it. I was going to reply. EL5.2 has glib-2.12 and gtk-2.10, so I would consider those the minimum versions.
08:34:10 <gjanssens> Yes, EL5 is my reference for minimum versions as well.
08:34:28 <gjanssens> It's definitely the most conservative distro of all actively maintained ones
08:34:42 <gjanssens> And I agree we should continue to support it.
08:42:42 <warlord> Yeah. Unfortunately I still have an EL4-based system... But even 2.2 didn't support that.
08:42:54 <warlord> (that has something like 2.6)
08:43:42 <gjanssens> You mean you use EL4 as you workstation? Or on the server ?
08:43:52 <gjanssens> s/you/your/
08:58:12 <warlord> Ummm.. Neither..
09:00:21 * gjanssens wonders how this EL4-based system is related to GC then...
09:06:48 <warlord> It's where I run my biz.
09:06:56 <warlord> .. so I run GC on it.
09:07:09 <warlord> But it's not my desktop. And it's not a 'server' per se.
09:07:18 <warlord> (it's certainly not "the server")
09:08:19 <gjanssens> Heh. Then what do you do on that system ? Run an old version of GC ? Manually update the required deps to be able to build&run GC ?
09:08:43 * gjanssens is curious, methinks :)
09:12:40 <warlord> I run 2.0.x
09:16:00 <warlord> For a long time making sure gnucash built on that system was important. BUt then they stopped updating their system so I stopped worrying about compatibility.
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09:46:07 <warlord> @op
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09:46:09 <warlord> thanks jsled
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09:50:29 <N1EA> Hello. Is anyone interested in gnucash-2.2.9 DEB file which was compiled under the libs for Ubuntu Lucid? The stock Ubuntu deb file doesn't work.
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09:53:09 <N1EA> The gnucash_2.2.9-4_i386.deb file that I have compiled works perfectly. If anyone wants it, say so or tell me where to send it.
09:53:32 <warlord> N1EA: in what way does the one distributed by Canonical not work?
09:55:58 <N1EA> The libs that are currently supplied with lucid are different. I forget which were new libs, but it would not work at all. This has been reported as a bug, and verified. The submitter said that if you compile it yourself, it will work. He's right - I just wanted to make it available.
09:58:33 <N1EA> If I remember it was the goffice libs that were incompatable with the new Ubuntu Lucid ones. But if you compile yourself against these libs it works fine.
10:01:48 <N1EA> OK Warlord, if no one is interested, I wish you all a good day.
10:03:03 <jsled> N1EA: I suggest you make it available on the internet and send a message to gnucash-user
10:03:17 <warlord> N1EA: we dont distribute linux packages.. You might try talking to canonical.
10:07:08 <warlord> Of course a package compiled against karmic wont work on lucid. That's no surprise at all.
10:10:57 <N1EA> gnucash-user at what address?
10:11:17 <gjanssens> gnucash-user@gnucash.org
10:11:23 <N1EA> OK will do.
10:11:25 <N1EA> Thanks
10:13:53 <gjanssens> configure.in has conditionals to define HAS_UNTESTED_GTK and HAS_UNTESTED_GDK
10:14:05 <gjanssens> But both conditionals test on a version of gtk
10:14:24 <gjanssens> Why a different HAS_UNTESTED_GDK then ?
10:16:16 <warlord> I think that was something David Hampton was using for testing for deprecated api usage
10:16:56 * gjanssens will check...
10:18:15 <gjanssens> HAS_UNTESTED_GDK only appears in configure.in. There's no use of it (anymore) in the code
10:18:42 <gjanssens> I think I'll remove it and only keep the UNTESTED_GTK definition
10:19:11 <warlord> okay.. If it's needed again it can be recovered from SVN
10:19:19 <gjanssens> My thoughts exactly
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11:12:55 <warlord> gjanssens: have you registered with gncbot?
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11:15:59 <gjanssens> no, what is gncbot ?
11:17:05 <warlord> (replied in PM)
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11:25:43 <gjanssens> @op
11:25:43 <gncbot> gjanssens: Error: You don't have the #gnucash,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
11:25:55 <warlord> hmm..
11:26:10 <warlord> try again?
11:26:14 <gjanssens> @op
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14:58:48 <jsled> oh, man, N1EA from before sent the .deb (1.8MB) as an attachment to gnucash-user.
14:59:13 * jsled "I'm not moderating this through; put it up http-accessible and post a link." </paraphrase>
15:19:03 <warlord> heh
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16:56:24 <shade304> I wish gnucash had a nice command under the save command that would email a copy for taking work home on the weekend maybe a password protected compressed self vs it's normal compressed self
16:58:00 <warlord> shade304: just copy the datafile.
16:58:07 <warlord> It's just like bringing home a Word doc.
16:58:51 <shade304> That is what i do right now, I guess I should make a script to to that and put an icon on my top panel
16:59:09 <shade304> it just takes 5 seconds longer than it should..
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17:02:09 <cstim> hi all
17:02:09 <gncbot> cstim: Sent 36 weeks, 0 days, 3 hours, and 8 minutes ago: <warlord> looks like the problem is that 3.8.3 uses AC_LIBTOOL_RC whereas it should be using AC_CHECK_TOOL
17:02:10 <gncbot> cstim: Sent 36 weeks, 0 days, 3 hours, and 7 minutes ago: <warlord> in particular: AC_CHECK_TOOL(RC, windres, no) (with proper m4 quoting, but supybot doesn't like that)
17:02:11 <gncbot> cstim: Sent 35 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, and 46 minutes ago: <warlord> I think I solved it..
17:02:28 <warlord> WOW, those are old!
17:02:30 <cstim> gncbot: thanks
17:02:30 <gncbot> cstim: Error: "thanks" is not a valid command.
17:02:34 <cstim> warlord: yes they are
17:02:36 <warlord> You haven't been where in a while.. ;)
17:02:40 <cstim> indeed
17:02:47 <cstim> warlord: how are you?
17:02:50 <cstim> long time no see
17:02:59 <warlord> I am well
17:03:50 <cstim> warlord: What was the underlying reason for the server move? Did you move out of Boston area?
17:03:52 <warlord> I'll be in Europe in July again
17:04:00 <warlord> yeah. I moved to Atlanta..
17:04:06 <cstim> very nice
17:04:15 <warlord> I think so. :)
17:04:21 <cstim> I hope the move was going on well
17:04:35 * cstim is having a fancy drink right now
17:05:25 <warlord> Nice! Enjoy
17:06:03 <cstim> re July: I'll be around the whole summer. Just drop me a line when the date is near and I'll see what I can arrange.
17:06:54 <cstim> now for some technical issues
17:07:16 <cstim> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=610561 : trunk r18696 crashes on start on Windows: Report installation location not correct?
17:07:39 <cstim> Did we change the installation location of the reports e.g. account-piecharts.scm recently?
17:08:32 <cstim> because once I move all of them from .../guile-modules/gnucash/report/standard-reports/account-piecharts.scm to guile-modules/gnucash/report/account-piecharts.scm, the crash that I reported in that report goes away completely.
17:09:12 <warlord> You'd have to ask Phil.. He played around in that code. But he's not here, and I think he's out for 6 weeks.
17:09:56 <cstim> He played around in *which* code?
17:11:04 <warlord> The report loading code.
17:11:08 <cstim> (to answer my question) There's r18253, "Reports are now automatically picked up at startup time."
17:11:40 <cstim> but that's from 2009-08-16 and my current error cannot have existed all the time since then.
17:11:59 <warlord> Hmm...
17:21:14 <cstim> Oops, seems like an old version of standard-reports.scm made it into my installation and distribution. I'll have to remove the build folder before I can give any updates on the situation here.
17:22:02 <cstim> warlord: where in Germany will you be travelling to? Again Frankfurt area?
17:22:15 <warlord> Yep
17:22:22 <warlord> And my GF might be with me
17:24:25 <cstim> explain the abbreviation GF again...
17:24:42 <cstim> In German, GF is "Geschäftsführer", which is the CEO of a company... :-)
17:25:22 <warlord> Heh. Sorry. Girlfriend
17:25:32 <cstim> Nice.
17:26:15 <warlord> Yeah. :)
17:28:35 <cstim> Ok, I'm away to get some sleep. Have a good day in Atlanta and wherever you are!
17:29:41 <warlord> THanks!
17:29:50 <warlord> Talk to you soon. Please come here more often!
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19:29:15 <shade304> a little weirdness with my checking, my starting balance isn't correct so I went back to Sept (the first month) to reconcile and it says my starting balance is -9,427.94, is there a secret register for reconciling somewhere? my starting balance should be "0"
19:46:54 <gjanssens> warlord: I'm still working with the dependencies
19:47:43 <gjanssens> together with gtk 2.10, I'd like to go for goffice >= 0.5.1 and gtkhtml >= 3.14.x
19:49:28 <gjanssens> gtkhtml on RHEL = 3.16.3, so no problem
19:50:00 <gjanssens> EL5 doesn't ship goffice, so the user has to find a package somewhere else anyway.
19:50:46 <gjanssens> I took goffice 0.6.2 src rpm from Fedora 9 and with one minor fix to the spec, it compiled without any issues.
19:51:07 <gjanssens> I'm currently also testing the build on RHEL5
19:53:01 <gjanssens> My glib 2.12 modifications pass ok, but the build still fails because of bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=610321
20:09:03 <gjanssens> If I can use these new requirements, a lot of cruft can be removed from configure.in
20:09:41 <gjanssens> but anyway, I'll see your answer tomorrow. Time for some sleep.
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23:23:17 <sandeep> When importing ofx documents, is there a way to automatically recognize what account to add it to? For example if the transaction says KRISPY KREME, I want it to go to Expenses:Dining.
23:25:42 <warlord> @tell gjanssens I think the dep changes are fine.
23:25:42 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
23:26:03 <warlord> sandeep: over time it will learn, especially if you turn on bayesian matching
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23:29:12 <sandeep> OK - I turned it on - with default values. Are there disadvantages of turning it on?
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