2010-02-09 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:25:53 <itsols> Pls help understand this... How do I only enter invoice amounts without entering the details of the bill? Say I have a separate sales program and I only want to post those amounts here. Is this possible?
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02:33:03 <itsols> I have another question: when entering accounts receivable, what does TYPE mean? It has two values I and P. I just selected I and now I can't seem to change any entry on it. Please help
02:34:47 <thomas> I means Invoice P means Payment. If the type is I then you can't edit.
02:35:26 <thomas> The word is that you should not edit A/R directly.
02:36:25 <thomas> or A/P. Only via the Business menues.
02:44:48 <itsols> thank you thomas but how do I enter the sales without having to enter the details of the bill ? If I use the business menu, I am compelled to enter the invoice details as well isn't it?
02:48:02 <thomas> itsols: I am a just begining with this, so the only reason I answered your last question was that I asked the exact same thing two days ago - but for a different reason.
02:50:34 <itsols> Thank you thomas once again. I really appreciate your help. I shall keep you informed if I come up with more info. I'm coming from a development background and I've always wanted to build an accounting app. I came across gnucash quite recently when I thought of doing my accounts using an open source app... If this package proves itself, I'll definitely contribute with new upgrades and features in the future. Thank you again.
02:57:49 <thomas> I have only been fooling with GnuCash for a few weeks, but I find that it is very capable and the developers are thoughtful. I am at the stage where I need to customize things and get accounts and proceedures setup so I can hand it off to others.
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04:54:18 <JesseW> Just checking in regarding the question I asked a few days ago, about the ordering of variables in the SX "Since Last Run..." dialog... It doesn't look like anyone is awake ATM...
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05:45:50 <Larysa> hi, i am new to this chat program. is there anybody who could assist me in german?
05:46:16 <Larysa> or is there a special chat program for germans?
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08:10:45 <warlord> JesseW-afk: Does order really matter?
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09:00:17 <jsled> JesseW-afk: If I had to guess, the code iterates a hashmap of the variables, so order is going to be effectively random.
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10:21:42 <kmels> Hello, i was trying to download gnucash for Mac OS X, but the link seems to be broken. Is there any other place where i can download it?
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12:02:19 <JesseW-afk> warlord: the order matters because I'm trying to copy in a pre-printed set of categories off a reciept, and there are ~20 categories -- having them in a random order is a lose.
12:03:33 <JesseW-afk> jsled: I did find exactly where in the code it generates them, and yes, it's reading them out of a hashmap. Would there be interest if I hacked up a patch to output them in alphabetical order, instead?
12:03:47 <jsled> sure, go for it. :)
12:06:15 <JesseW-afk> jsled: cool. it's in this file: http://svn.gnucash.org/trac/browser/gnucash/trunk/src/gnome/dialog-sx-since-last-run.c?rev=
12:09:04 <jsled> you might want to do it in src/app-util/gnc-sx-instance-model … while sort-order is "ui", a stable variable ordering from the model is generally useful.
12:09:20 <jsled> s/is "ui"/is a ui concern/
12:09:21 * jsled shrugs
12:09:30 <JesseW-afk> hm, that does make sense
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12:19:41 <JesseW-afk> I'll see what I can do, and add a bug. I'll want to backport it to Ubuntu Karmic, also, so I can use it on the installation I'm running...
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15:05:28 <JesseW> I'm trying to build HEAD, but I get automake errors when running autogen.sh -- suggestions?
15:12:47 <warlord> what errors?
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15:21:52 <JesseW> warlord: I suspect I just missing dependencies. The errors are here:http://gnucash.pastebin.com/d12fcd61a
15:21:59 <JesseW> s/I/I'm/
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15:23:54 <warlord> probably.
15:23:56 * warlord looks
15:24:14 <warlord> Yeah, gconf
15:24:32 <warlord> Also, maybe missing swig?
15:26:33 <JesseW-afk> Hm, I just installed swig, but I still get the same errors...
15:27:52 <JesseW-afk> hm, well now automake doesn't fail (I've installed gconf), but it still shows the SWIG warnings...
15:27:59 <JesseW-afk> eh, I'll try running configure, we'll see how that goes...
15:29:05 <JesseW-afk> swig-runtime.h error? what is this?
15:29:28 <JesseW-afk> I'm running from a copy of HEAD downloaded using bzr-svn...
15:32:41 <jsled> can you do `apt build-deps` or something to get the package manage to get everything else setup?
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15:44:45 <warlord> or maybe not.
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16:17:51 <JesseW> hm, the problem I've come across using bzr seems to have been found back in April 2009... http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Bazaar
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16:42:03 <JesseW> grumble. looks like I'll have to fix util/gnc-svnversion to handle bzr... grumble
16:42:55 <andi5> oh, you can use git ;-)
16:47:24 <JesseW> andi5: I could -- but I'd like to use bzr to integrate better with ubuntu, as I'm going to want to backport the patch I make to apply to Ubuntu Karmic.
16:48:05 <JesseW> and I know I'm not the only one who would want to use bzr.
16:49:47 <andi5> anyway, gitters adjusted the script to make it work with git, now it's your turn :)
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17:00:24 <JesseW_else> andi5: that's what I thought -- it's work that'll need to be done sometime, so might as well get it done now.
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18:14:14 <JesseW> so where is src/doc/coding-style.txt ? It seems not to be there...
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18:22:33 <JesseW> WTF? It appears that my version of libgtkhtml (version 2.0) is /too new/ to be accepted by ./configure -- how could this be? and there is no libgtkhtml version 1 series package available... wtf??
18:23:19 <JesseW> ok, no it seems I want the version *3* series...
18:24:47 <JesseW> grumble
18:25:28 <JesseW> YAY, ./configure passes!
18:26:14 <jsled> in an abstract answer to your question … major-version changes sometimes imply API changes that require caller coding cahnges.
18:26:45 <jsled> So, it's not necessarily the case you can use version (N+1) of a lib for something coded against version N.
18:27:06 <JesseW> I do know that, and most of the time I even remember it... ;-)
18:27:58 <jsled> heh
18:28:01 <JesseW> oh, another thing to add to ./configure -- test for the presence of makeinfo
18:32:11 <JesseW> jsled: so, where is coding-style.txt, anyway?
18:33:35 <jsled> good question.
18:33:43 <jsled> where do you see a reference to it?
18:34:43 <jsled> HACKING says "changing a file: follow the file's style".
18:35:13 <jsled> There's a discussion from … last month? on gnucash-devel about which options to a tool like indent would be reasonable to achieve the "common gnucash style".
18:35:20 <jsled> that's probably the best documentation at the moment. :)
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18:42:11 <JesseW> jsled: in README, it says: "Read the file src/doc/coding-style.txt to learn about the coding-styles"
18:42:18 <jsled> ah.
18:42:39 <JesseW> maybe that could be changed, if the file doesn't actually exist? ;-)
18:42:50 <jsled> it could, yup.
18:43:12 <JesseW> I'll send a patch. Where and how should I send it, btw?
18:43:31 <jsled> bugzilla is the most stable; followup to gnucash-devel if you like.
18:43:43 <JesseW> will do.
18:47:05 <JesseW> found a DESTDIR bug:
18:47:06 <JesseW> mkdir -p /home/jessew/FreeProjects/gnucash/staging/usr/local/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults
18:47:07 <JesseW> GCONF_CONFIG_SOURCE=xml::/usr/local/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults /usr/bin/gconftool-2 --makefile-install-rule apps_gnucash_history.schemas
18:47:37 <jsled> use --prefix; I think you'll find a lot more DESTDIR bugs, since we don't do that, generally.
18:47:48 <jsled> you're welcome to fix them, of course; DESTDIR support would be great.
18:48:34 <JesseW> heh. that's what it seemed. well, I'll see about doing some of them.. where would I look to find this one?
18:49:44 <jsled> no idea.
18:50:08 <JesseW> found it. just tracing back the Makefile stuff.
18:50:31 <JesseW> but tracing it back to whatever autogen.sh uses (Makefile.am, is it?) that'll be a bit more of a PITA
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19:40:04 <Claudia> hello... I am trying to use GnuCash (2.2.0) in my own language, Spanish... I use windows... I tried modifying the gnucash file in /bin by including the lines "set LANGUAGE=es", the opened GnuCash and nothing happened... still in English.
19:40:34 <Claudia> This last was suggested in Gnucash FAQ website
19:42:45 <cortana> hm
19:43:08 <cortana> what about set LANG=es_ES
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19:46:28 <Claudia> Thank you cortana... I actually tried LANGUAGE=es and LANG=en_US because I wanted the language to be English but the accounting stuff to be US related... let me try what you just suggested and I'll let you know what happened
19:47:12 <cortana> hmm
19:47:16 <cortana> if you want that then...
19:47:59 <cortana> wait, i don't get it. 'language to be english and accounting stuff to be us related'... what is let to be spanish?
19:48:12 <cortana> anyway. i believe on windows LANGUAGE is not checked but i may be wrong
19:50:15 <Claudia> my mistake... language Spanish and accounting stuff US related.
19:50:47 <Claudia> I just tried LANGUAGE=es LANG=es_ES and nothing happened.
19:51:30 <Claudia> I am modifying the right file? (/bin/gnucash)
19:51:54 <Claudia> I actually wrote set LANGUAGE=es set LANG=es_ES
19:53:42 <cortana> try without LANGUAGE and with LC_MESSAGE=es_ES and LANG=en_US
19:54:34 <cortana> if that doesn't work theni guess gnucash on windows behaves differently to on other platforms. however someone else here may have an answer for you tomorrow. or there's the mailing list :)
19:57:21 <Claudia> That didn't work either... but thanks Cortana.
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22:15:51 <MRT> Hello. I have succesfully exported and opened a new file with my account structure in place. My question is, is there a way to transfer my customers and employees from one file to another? I see there is an export to QSF in the business menu, but I can't find any info in the tutorial, help file or FAQ file on the website that explains what a QSF file is and how you can import or open it in...
22:15:52 <MRT> ...a new file. If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.
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22:45:11 <warlord> MRT: sorry, no.
22:48:55 <MRT> warlord: hm, too bad, but thank you for the quick reply
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22:52:27 <warlord> you're welcome. Sorry.
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