2009-12-28 GnuCash IRC logs
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07:08:13 <yamajin> hello
07:09:03 <yamajin> I have a question about scheduling transaction - I want to know the proper way
07:10:22 <yamajin> Let's say i have scheduled transaction, daily, started from 21 dec, with one operation (transfer) from account to account
07:11:38 <yamajin> I've added another transfer today
07:14:25 <yamajin> my question is: is second transfer will be automatically completed, from 21 dec or from today? should I set start of this scheduled transaction to today to avoid autocompleting?
07:16:24 <yamajin> and I have another question: can i put expression in credit and debit formulas? trunc for example
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07:34:20 <jhaig> I'm trying to use Gnucash on Fedora 12 but I am getting: ERROR: Permission denied: "/usr/share/guile/1.8/slibcat" How can I get round this?
07:35:31 <jhaig> I've already had to do "ln -s mklibcat.scm mklibcat" in /usr/share/guile/1.8/slib
07:36:52 <yamajin> chmod?
07:38:52 <jhaig> Hmmm, it doesn't exist, although 'locate' thought it did. The database must be very out of date.
07:42:30 <jhaig> Somehow the file disappeared (possibly something to do with upgrading from F10 to F12). Reinstalling guile seems to have fixed it.
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10:10:53 <warlord> jsled: in case you're back now, any chance you could op gncbot?
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11:28:33 <svetoslav> warlord: I don't have access to wiki.gnucash.org, neither to svn, is it possible that my ip is banned ?
11:29:03 <warlord> svetoslav: could be... what's your IP?
11:29:11 <svetoslav> 92.247.248.244
11:29:53 <svetoslav> it's a real ip address and I don't have any idea why I was banned (if that's the case)
11:31:31 <warlord> did you try to ssh into the machine?
11:31:50 <svetoslav> svetoslav@svetoslav-pc:~$ ssh wiki.gnucash.org
11:31:52 <svetoslav> ssh: connect to host wiki.gnucash.org port 22: No route to host
11:31:57 <svetoslav> if this is what you mean ...
11:32:11 <warlord> I wasn't asking you to try to ssh -- I was asking if you HAD tried? That would block you
11:32:22 <svetoslav> ah, I see, sorry
11:32:31 <svetoslav> no before that, I haven't tried to ssh
11:33:43 <warlord> Well, could be someone before you had that IP address and they got blocked.. Or you're infected with a virus that does SSH attacks?
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11:34:20 <svetoslav> hm there is a chance, I used windows before
11:34:33 <svetoslav> now I'm on linux but I'm still blocked unfortunately
11:35:05 <warlord> right. the blocking is forever.
11:35:28 <svetoslav> that's bad, is there a chance that someone removes the ban ?
11:35:41 <warlord> me. but not this second -- i'm on the phone
11:35:48 <svetoslav> oh ok np
11:37:52 <warlord> okay, you should be unblocked now.
11:38:52 <svetoslav> yes, thanks a lot
11:39:07 <svetoslav> I'll scan windows for viruses so I hope this won't happen again
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16:19:23 <zimaera> Hello, I am just learning to use Gnucash, I am following the tutorial but I got stuck at one part; i have tried many times but I can't figure it out, seems liek somethings is not good with the tutorial, if I don't do this it will hard to understand the rest, anybody can help me?
16:19:46 <warlord> What problem?
16:20:13 <warlord> Keep in mind that the tutorial is just a bunch of disjoint examples. There's generally no relation between one example and the next.
16:20:56 <zimaera> i know that, but this and essencial part of the program, It shouldn't be so hard to understand
16:21:05 <zimaera> I have problem at this part: the transactions part, when it comes the split transaction
16:22:09 <zimaera> just followed the instructions at the split transaction, the paragraph and the final result is not as it is suposed to be
16:22:26 <zimaera> at the end it is a mess
16:23:12 <zimaera> I don't see how is that taxes are taken as a deposit, shouln't it be a withdraw?
16:23:23 <zimaera> we ae inside checking account
16:26:18 <warlord> No... You have to think about the transaction as a flow of money. You're "withdrawing" the money from your checking and "depositing" it into the Taxes account.
16:26:50 <zimaera> mmm, yes you are right,
16:26:51 <warlord> So, the Assets:Checking split is a Withdrawal, the Expenses:Taxes split is a Deposit (when viewed from the Checking account)
16:27:50 <zimaera> in the example the Assets:Checking spli is taken as a deposite, at leats that is why they tell you to do
16:28:03 <zimaera> and the graphic shows the same
16:28:53 <warlord> Is it a Salary?
16:29:26 <warlord> If so, then yes, that WOULD be correct.. It would be a "Withdrawal" from Income:Salary and then Deposits to both Assets:Checking and Expenses:Taxes
16:29:37 <zimaera> no, it says, enter the deposit into Assets:Checking (eg:$670)
16:30:06 <warlord> URL?
16:30:08 <zimaera> shouldn't it be then: enter the withdrawal into Assets:Checking (eg:$670) ?
16:30:16 <zimaera> one sec
16:31:13 <zimaera> http://svn.gnucash.org/docs/guide/txns-registers1.html#txns-registers-multiaccount2
16:31:18 <zimaera> 4.2.2
16:33:57 <warlord> No, the documentation is correct.
16:34:45 <warlord> You're "withdrawing" $1000 from Income:Salary, and "Depositing" it into Assets:Checking, Expenses:Taxes, etc.
16:35:51 <zimaera> when i enter the second split, Expenses: taxes: Federal, which is 180.00, when i go to the next split, the 180.00 goes to the withdrawal column
16:36:39 <warlord> Then you're not entering it correctly.
16:37:10 <warlord> When it comes up it will have a value in the Withdrawal column.. You need to both enter your $$ into the deposit column AND empty the withdrawal column..
16:40:40 <zimaera> ok, when i enter the amount, $180 in this case, does it make any difference if i push enter or not?
16:45:13 <zimaera> these are the steps I am following: split the the transaction line, then put the description, in the line below i select Assets: Checking and the amount $670, then push enter, everything is fine, then i go to the line below and select Expenses: Taxes: Federal and enter the amount $180, when i push enter, this amount disapears and on the withdrawal column i see $490, and belowe that, still on...
16:45:14 <zimaera> ...the withdrawal column there is $180, dont understand why
16:58:20 <zimaera> well, any way I own a small business and i want to use gnucash for this purpose, i have not knowledge of contability, and i know many people have found gnucash a little complicated sometimes, something must be done for people who dones't have any knowledge of contability and wants to use gnucash, or give up to it, thank you
17:02:42 <warlord> Don't push Enter until you're done entering the transaction.
17:03:25 <warlord> But.... Note that 490 == 670-180. So my guess is that you're not clearing the Withdrawal column when you put 180 into the deposit column.
17:04:45 <warlord> Look more closely -- After you hit enter the first time you see your Checking with a Deposit of 670, and then on the next line you have a blank split with a Withdrawal of 670.
17:05:46 <warlord> When you edit the blank split and put in the Taxes and then put the 180 into the deposit column, you have to clear the withdrawal column.. Otherwise GnuCash combines the Withdrawal of 670 and the Deposit of 180 into a single amount (a withdrawal of 490)... Which isn't what you want.
17:05:54 <warlord> ... (but it IS what you're telling GnuCash to do)
17:06:05 <warlord> So.... After you enter the 180, CLEAR the 670 out of the other column.
17:06:18 <warlord> (Then you can hit Enter, if you want)
17:08:57 <zimaera> thank you , that makes more sense
17:09:44 <zimaera> so , is that a bug, why do i have to clear the withdrawal column, am i gonna have to do that everytime i do split transations?
17:09:52 <zimaera> and the tutorial doenst say that
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17:16:34 <warlord> No, it's not a bug. It's working as designed.
17:17:05 <warlord> You have to do it anytime you want to modify the debit/credit numbers in the register, regardless of whether it's a split transaction or not.
17:19:49 <zimaera> ok, I will continue, it's been a good help, thank you warlord
17:20:13 <warlord> You're welcome
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23:05:18 <ubuntum> I have a transaction under Accounts receivable, but for some reason i cannot edit anything about it. Would there be any reason for it?