2009-12-20 GnuCash IRC logs
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05:00:16 <yancho> thanks warlord-afk .. another question pls .. the current accounts need to be as equity too right? not as expenses?
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08:09:30 <jongs> hi all
08:09:30 <jongs> i have a question
08:10:38 <jongs> I would like to parse a txt available on the net and updated daily
08:10:46 <jongs> how do i go about doing it?
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08:43:30 <jongs> anybody home :)
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09:23:01 <jongs> hello al
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09:48:11 <warlord> yancho: I'm not sure what you mean by "current accounts"
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11:02:13 <yancho> warlord-afk, current accounts holds profits, interests on capital, salaries are credited to such accounts and then interest on drawings and drawings are debited to it
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11:13:21 <Shiva> How can I change the opening balance of an account that already has transactions?
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11:17:36 <mux> hello there - I'm having a little problem with guncash 2.2.9; it seems everytime I import a QIF file from my bank, it imports two inverse transactions for each entry in the QIF file
11:17:52 <mux> one that deposits money and another that takes it back
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11:39:50 <warlord> yancho: That sounds like an Asset to me.
11:40:06 <warlord> e.g. a Bank account, Cash account, ...
11:40:18 <warlord> Shiva: Have you reconciled the account?
11:40:26 <yancho> hmm ok warlord
11:40:36 <yancho> i have taught they are equities
11:41:20 <warlord> mux: sounds like you're telling the importer to use the same GNC Account for both debits and credits.
11:42:02 <warlord> yancho: well, when your corporation pays a salary it's not paying out of equity, you're generally writing a check against your Asset (banking) account, so you'd credit Bank and debit Expenses:Salaries
11:42:22 <mux> warlord: mm, there is only one account referenced in the QIF file and the QIF importer only asks to associate that one account
11:42:54 <warlord> There are TWO accounts. One is the account of the QIF file itself (the source account). The other are the 'far' accounts for each transaction.
11:43:11 <yancho> yep warlord agreed :)
11:43:57 <mux> warlord: alright but those aren't referenced i the QIF file for all I can tell; it's just taht withdrawals have negative amounts for transactions and deposits have positive amounts
11:44:54 <warlord> yes, the source account is implied.
11:45:39 <warlord> It's based on the name of the file, e.g. foo.qif assumes the source qif account is 'foo', which you then need to map to the proper GNC account, e.g. "Assets:Bank:Foo"
11:45:52 <mux> yes, that is what I'vedone
11:46:12 <warlord> then you need to map the categories and payee/memos to 'destination' accounts, e.g. Expenses:Groceries
11:47:31 <mux> ah, alright, I think I see what you mean now
11:47:53 <mux> I'd map salary transfers to Income:Salary for instance I guess
11:48:29 <warlord> Right.
11:48:52 <mux> I now understand how I indeed associate both accounts to the same GNC one
11:49:16 <mux> I'll put everything in Expenses:Miscallaneous for now
11:49:30 <warlord> :)
11:49:34 <mux> except income of course
11:49:45 <warlord> That works. Although honestly it's probably better to take the time to map them in the importer...
11:49:47 <Shiva> warlord: Actually I'm trying to setup a loan account. This is the first month I'm recording transactions in GnuCash but the loan was taken 4 months ago and I'm having trouble setting it up correctly
11:50:03 <warlord> Once they are imported you can only change them one at a time. Whereas the importer will map multiple txns at once.
11:50:31 <mux> right, I felt it has been painful; I often wanted to select multiple transactions to delete them all or modify them all
11:50:42 <warlord> Shiva: if you haven't reconciled then just change the opening balance transaction.
11:51:04 <mux> mmm, I lack the amount information in the importer
11:51:07 <warlord> mux: yeah, there's no multiple-txn processing.
11:51:12 <mux> that's too bad
11:51:34 <warlord> mux: you shouldn't need it! The payee/memo should be sufficient to tell you what you got... generally..
11:51:57 <mux> well I only have "VIR RECU <account number>" for all deposits...
11:52:38 <warlord> WOW! THat's... completely unhelpful!
11:52:54 <mux> stupid french bank ;-)
11:54:18 <Shiva> warlock: I don't have the "Opening Balance" tab in the "Edit Account" window for the Loan account and no opening balance transaction in that account
11:56:16 <mux> bah, how can I change the source account after the transaction has been imported?
11:56:41 <warlord> Shiva: it's just a regular transaction in the account. open the account register; it'll be at the top
11:57:00 <warlord> mux: one by one, edit the txn
11:57:10 <mux> yeah but how?
11:57:33 <mux> I can only seem to change the transfer column, not move it to a different account
11:58:22 <mux> oh, nevermind, I had to open the split thingie
12:01:51 <mux> hey, with Obama and all, you guys need to add an Income:Social Care default account ;-)
12:05:32 <warlord> heh.
12:05:34 <warlord> sorry, gotta run
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12:35:43 <mux> is there a way to start the druid you get when creating a new file so that I can add more of those predefined accounts?
12:36:58 <Shiva> mux: File-> New Account Hierarchy
12:37:12 <mux> oh great, cheers
12:41:13 <mishehu> mux: they already drained all of Assets:Current Assets with Liabilities:Bailouts
12:41:31 <mishehu> so I doubt there's any hope for Income:
12:54:18 <Shiva> In Mortgage/Loan Druid, what does it mean Loan type 3/1 Year ARM?
12:55:48 <Shiva> Not sure what value to set if my ARM is recalculated every 3 months
13:00:50 <Shiva> Found the answer: The first figure in each set refers to the initial period of the loan, during which your interest rate will stay the same as it was on the day you signed your loan papers.
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13:28:44 <Shiva> Another question regarding that screen: The Interest Rate represents the montly rate or the yearly one?
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13:44:13 <tari3x> hi all, the feature list says the menus have been translated to Russian, but I can find no way to switch language. Could anyone help please?
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13:57:29 <Anton> kj
14:00:44 <Mer|in> hi
14:01:24 <Mer|in> got a question about the way that gnucash restores tabs/windows @ startups
14:01:26 <Mer|in> startup
14:02:17 <Mer|in> where is that defined? for some reason i lost all that recently and would like to be able to hand-edit it
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15:24:03 <hobs> tari3x hi...i have been trying to get some help to switch into Spanish....there are instructions such as this http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Translation#Changing_the_Language_on_Windows and also this http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_I_want_to_use_GnuCash_in_my_own_language but I have not been able to really get anywhere with this
15:25:14 <hobs> tari3x...basically, I can not find the file in which the environment language is set
15:26:59 <hobs> tari3x...warlord had suggested I look at the gnucash.bat (batch file), which I did, but still don't see any line where it looks as though the language is being set. I have ver 2.2.6 on one machine and 2.2.9 on another...help?
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18:08:31 <mux> is there a way to see the memo of the transaction in an account tab?
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18:39:08 <warlord> hobs: we dont set the language by default; by default we use the system's language setting. But you can OVERRIDE the default by editing gnucash.bat
18:40:02 <warlord> mux: depends on if you mean the Split memos (which you can see by expanding the transaction using the split button or an expanded register view), or the transaction notes, which you can see in double-line mode.
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18:47:52 <warlord> *again*
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18:49:58 <mux> warlord-afk: cheers, again :-)
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