2009-12-02 GnuCash IRC logs
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02:17:03 <medi> Is there a web base version of GnuCash
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02:24:28 <kimmo> no
02:24:55 <kimmo> but it's open source, so feel free to implement one
02:28:23 <medi> true....and hopefully I will....but do you know of any open web base accounting apps that I can run on a web hosting server
02:28:37 <medi> today?
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02:49:15 <kimmo> I can't think of any that would be either open source or free to use...
02:49:32 <medi> Thanks
02:50:34 <kimmo> I might be wrong of course, since I haven't looked into the matter as I'm comfortable using gnucash locally, I don't want to run account software SAAS, and when I finally decide to outsource my accounting, I won't really care what software they use as long as my legal obligations are fulfilled ;)
02:52:29 <medi> I am surprised that web based accounting has not flourished ?
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15:32:48 <Ashura> Hallo
15:33:31 <Ashura> i want to clone my account tree (empting the transactions) to a new file for the 2010... how can i do it?
15:36:50 <jsled> Ashura: File > Export > Export Accounts
15:37:02 <jsled> Then simply File > Open the resultant file.
15:37:12 <Ashura> trying :D
15:37:24 <jsled> note you will strictly get Accounts … no transactions, I don't think price db entries, certainly not business-feature data, &c.
15:37:42 <Ashura> Thanks, it works :D
15:37:45 <KaiForce> hmmm, what kind of account would that be useful for?
15:38:22 <Ashura> i'm using gnucash for my personal finance, i don't handle anything fancy. just my expenses
15:38:35 <Ashura> and i want to clean it up for the new year :D
15:38:39 <KaiForce> i see
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20:51:15 <awol> Hi, looking into doing some work in creating Australian Tax Options. SVNed out the 2.2 branch and trunk code, looks like no one has done any further work since the original hack for German code back in '04
20:52:21 <awol> I need to have this work on a stable version of the code base so I would start to work in the 2.2 branch for my own purposes. Is this appropriate?
20:55:10 <jsled> 2.2 is the stable branch, yes. though trunk is trending toward stable.
20:55:21 <jsled> though, as you notice, that area of the code is not in flux.
20:56:01 <awol> To do properly it would suggest some "design choices" about how to implement the inferences from the locale (and hence the LOCALE_SPECIFIC_TAX complier define)
20:56:04 <jsled> so you can take that as either "your 2.2-branch work will be readily forward-portable in the future" or "you should be able to work on trunk if you're comfortable with the overall stability of trunk".
20:58:29 <awol> Thanks jsled, I am using gnucash for some personally critical records and I haven't had a chance to examine the 2.3 revisions to have any idea about whether I am running an acceptable risk by working with that code base. Given the "lack of flux" I probably feel happier in 2.2 with the ease of forward porting to the trunk once I am done
20:59:59 <awol> Long time dev, first time contributor so I just wanted to know if there was any gnucash etiquette about moving files around since the right thing to do would be to drag the German stuff into a less hacked regime if I manage to find one
21:00:14 <jsled> Do The Right Thing. :)
21:00:48 <awol> Fair enough
21:02:34 <jsled> to be clear, if the moved files represent a "less hacked regime", that seems like the Right Thing.
21:02:45 <awol> Understood :-)
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21:03:02 <jsled> as you notice, no one else is in that area, so there's basically nil chance of conflict.
21:04:34 <pestilence> so i'm trying to migrate from ubuntu linux -> mac snow leopard
21:04:46 <pestilence> i finally got gnucash to run without complaint
21:04:53 <pestilence> but am wondering what all files i need to bring with
21:05:03 <pestilence> obviously the gnucash file containing my data
21:05:06 <pestilence> but ~/.gnucash
21:05:07 <pestilence> ?
21:05:09 <jsled> yes
21:05:11 <pestilence> ~/.aqbanking?
21:05:16 <jsled> probably
21:05:21 <pestilence> anything else?
21:05:48 <pestilence> (note: i already tried with the above files, and the online banking stuff doesn't work)
21:05:48 <jsled> your gconf settings under /app/gnucash would be ideal, but those are all easily replaceable.
21:06:05 <pestilence> ok...
21:06:25 <jsled> Sorry, I don't know the online banking stuff enough to know how to help.
21:07:37 <awol> thanks jsled, I'll run my ideas through gnucash-devel mailing list for the most part. Is this channel god for low latency bouncing ideas?
21:07:52 <awol> er, good not god,... although...
21:08:12 <pestilence> ok
21:09:36 <pestilence> is there anybody who hangs around this channel that would know?
21:11:09 <jsled> Oh man. /me moderates through an email message that's literally "Turkish [translation sucks]. Please do more translation.". :/
21:12:27 <jsled> awol: there's a couple folks around, but it's been very high-latency for the last year (or two? :/). The mailing list is probably "better".
21:12:49 <jsled> pestilence: you might have better luck on gnucash-devel.
21:12:58 <awol> Cheers, will do
21:13:02 <awol> ciao
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21:13:52 <pestilence> hrmm...gnucash hangs on "loading data" when i copy over the .gconf/apps/gnucash directory from my linux box :-(
21:14:35 <jsled> pestilence: has the path of your basic datafile changed /
21:14:36 <jsled> ?
21:14:44 <pestilence> totally changed
21:15:22 <jsled> you might want to zero out or update apps/gnucash/history[/%gconf.xml]
21:15:33 <jsled> though I'm not sure why it'd hang.
21:15:38 <jsled> (rather than simply error out)
21:16:51 <pestilence> when i run from my home directory, it tries to start fresh. when i run from the directory containing the "gnucash" file, then it hangs. i'll delete the key
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21:20:45 <pestilence> hrmmm...it is something else.
21:21:02 <jsled> good luck; /me afks
21:23:07 <pestilence> k, thanks
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21:28:47 <bradr> I'm wondering if there's a how-to for folks who've never used the gnucash sources to build and test 2.3.7.
21:30:34 <bradr> Building from the gnucash.spec file in the 2.3.7 tarball gives pretty strange results, and makes me think I'm barking up the wrong tree.
21:35:50 <pestilence> hmm. seems like .banking is also important. but not sufficient
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21:36:56 <pestilence> bradr: did you look in the wiki
21:37:15 <pestilence> i'm pretty sure they have something there
21:38:09 <pestilence> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building
21:38:12 <pestilence> looks relevant
21:38:47 <bradr> I'm going through it end to end (including the wiki page you mention), but I'm building on Fedora Core 12, and the last rev I see mentioned is FC5... I'm wondering if its pointless to build from the tarball, and I need to go to the trunk.
21:40:26 <pestilence> i suspect if you want the stable version, building from tarball isn't pointless
21:40:31 <pestilence> but the most recent one is 2.3.9
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21:43:46 <bradr> It looks like most recent stable is 2.2.9, most recent test is 2.3.7. I was hoping to test 2.3.7, so I can get dbi to work on FC12.
21:43:55 <pestilence> whoops :)
21:44:09 <pestilence> that's what i meant.
21:49:42 <bradr> The two big problems are that the makefiles seem to put half the libs into libdir instead of pkglibdir (my 2.2.9 build released with FC12 puts everything in pkglibdir), and I can't figure out how to correctly run the test executable (there must be some way to set the environment to refer to the test libraries and support files, but I'm not seeing it).
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21:50:40 <warlord> bradr: define 'test'? what are you trying to do that either 'make check' or 'make install && ${prefix}/bin/gnucash' can't handle?
21:55:20 <bradr> warlord: Conceptually That's all I was trying to do (actually rpmbuild -bi gnucash.spec && $BUILDROOT/bin/gnucash). I was getting errors about not being able to find files.
21:55:50 <warlord> our gnucash.spec isn't maintained -- i wouldn't trust it
21:56:16 <bradr> Good to know, then my effort to replace it with a working one wasn't wasted.
21:56:41 <warlord> i would start with the FC12 2.2.9 spec
21:57:25 <bradr> Will do. Thanks all for the pointers. I have to step out, then I'll play with it some more this eve.
21:57:43 <warlord> good luck
21:58:18 <bradr> thx! ttfn.
21:58:28 <pestilence> warlord: are you familiar with online banking
21:58:54 <pestilence> more specifically, what files have to be copied for the online banking settings to persist on a new machine
21:59:51 <warlord> i'm afraid not. why don't you just re-run the aqb wizard?
22:00:03 <pestilence> it crashed the first time i tried.
22:00:31 <pestilence> but that was with the binary image. now i'm running the macports compiled version
22:00:34 <pestilence> i'll try again
22:02:44 <pestilence> yay it doesn't crash
22:04:22 <warlord> No clue about macports.
22:05:13 <pestilence> i'm new to mac, but i gather one difference is that the version i compiled uses the X server, whereas the prebuilt binary uses a native graphics library
22:05:22 <pestilence> doubt that is what is responsible though
22:05:37 <warlord> No clue.
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22:14:22 <pestilence> it worked. sweet!
22:15:54 <warlord> :)
22:16:07 <warlord> I never use the online banking, so... glad it worked for you
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