2009-10-26 GnuCash IRC logs
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04:38:13 <fuzzybunny> hey everyone I am trying to get a report of what my monthly expenses are. I am able to find the expenses bar/pie chart report but is it possible to have GNUcash generate one that shows me what my monthly expenses are per month?
04:43:43 <kimmo_> hmm, there used to be a stacked bars chart in 1.x... You can always run the income statement for a one month period though
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07:17:28 <fuzzybunny> thanks bud gnight
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08:37:55 <przemo> Hi, i've got a problem wih gnucash. I'm using 2.3.7 version but created my account plan in version 2.2 or sth. I have "database save" problem and I noticed I should save my fila as an xml and then reread it and save it to new sql file but gnucash is crashing. This problems are conected to bugs: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=599151 ; https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=598425 ; https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=599630 What I
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08:59:42 <web31337> any siteadmins here?
09:06:32 <web31337> i've got a possible security issue report and i've sent it to email listed on the bottom of site. please check that.
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09:52:45 <daedeloth> I have a paypal account which I assigned "bank" to, but I just received a couple of dollars on it
09:52:54 <daedeloth> my accounts are in euro
09:53:18 <daedeloth> any idea how I should handle that? I can't convert from dollar to euro easily
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09:55:48 <jong> hello, I'm confronted with a minute problem with the GNUcash software... namely, my screenlayout looks like a big mirrored L shape... one small monitor on the left, and a big vertical oriented monitor on the right
09:56:20 <jong> the software incorrectly assumes that coordinate (0,0) is a possible window placement location
09:56:39 <jong> and, you guessed correctly, now all of gnucash is outside of the reachable area... btw, I'm using the windows version of gnucash
10:00:39 <warlord> daedeloth: is your paypal account in dollars or euros?
10:00:50 <daedeloth> euro
10:00:56 <daedeloth> but paypal accepts everything I think
10:01:09 <daedeloth> may paypal shows an amount in euro and an amount in dollar
10:01:24 <warlord> I dont know, log in and see what it says? It might do to conversion for you?
10:02:19 <warlord> jong: sounds like a Gtk bug. I'm surprised anything works.
10:04:06 <jong> ok, that's what I thought... I'll pass it on to the gtk guys
10:05:59 <daedeloth> warlord, yea, it does a temporary convertion, but that could change every day
10:06:44 <warlord> jong: I'm honestly surprised anything works in any configuration, if 0,0 isn't visible!
10:06:59 <warlord> daedeloth: Oh, so they keep it there in USD?
10:07:23 <daedeloth> yea
10:07:27 <daedeloth> highly annoying
10:07:52 <daedeloth> I was thinking about splitting the paypal account up in 2 seperate account?
10:10:18 <daedeloth> oh, nice, I can close one currency, never mind, my bad :)
10:11:35 <daedeloth> great, now I just have to book the convertion difference :)
10:12:13 <warlord> yep
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11:13:32 <daedeloth> bah, I don't get it. due to rounding, my vat is 4 cent less then 21% of my total sales
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13:51:00 <bill_> Is there a list of accountants that use gnucash?
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14:04:56 <bill_> I am trying to find accountants in the Denver area on CraigsList and most of them that have resopnded are not intrested in using or supporting Gnucash, only Microsoft based paid programs.
14:06:11 <bill_> Any ideas on where or how to get an accountant that does Gnucash?
14:11:31 <bill_> My CraigsList add is at http://denver.craigslist.org/wan/1433466690.html and I would like account, not programming, help.
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14:17:39 <warlord> bill_: I just send my accountant an Income Statement, P&L, and Transaction report and they deal just fine.
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15:02:17 <bill_> Thanks. Why are some accountants so put off when I talk to them about Gnucash?
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15:06:24 <warlord> Because they're scared of what they do not know.
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15:40:41 <przemo> hi, any ideas what have i asked earlier?
15:40:48 <przemo> *about
15:41:00 <candyflip> i'd like to add a home mortgage, and it looks like a massive manual effort.. has anyone tried this?
15:41:33 * candyflip isn't keen on doing donkey work for a day to get the mortgage entered
15:41:40 <przemo> candyflip: i've tried without succeed
15:41:57 <candyflip> przemo: bummer!
15:42:07 <candyflip> przemo: MS Money makes it so easy
15:42:43 <przemo> yep, firstly gnucash does wrong calculation, after it i had database save problem but it's other issue
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15:44:22 <candyflip> przemo: is it at least possible to manually enter each transaction, with interest/principle splits?
15:44:38 <candyflip> just curious.. I don't want to go down that path
15:46:35 <candyflip> i might just try to forcefully add my current amount of equity, and do one manual entry each month
15:47:57 <przemo> candyflip: I think it is but I never done it. Sorry :)
15:48:15 <przemo> *have
15:54:17 <warlord> How did the druid fail?
15:56:25 <warlord> candyflip: MSMoney also has a team of full-time paid developers working on it, whereas GnuCash is 100% voluntary.
15:58:34 <candyflip> warlord: that means nothing. I've seen plenty of GNU projects produce quality products that put full-time paid black box developers to shame
15:59:53 <warlord> It means a lot when on average there's maybe 0.5-1 full dev worth on GnuCash.
15:59:55 <candyflip> The kernel would be the first big example
16:00:16 <warlord> The kernel has dozens of full-time people working on it.. people PAID to work on the kernel.
16:01:14 <warlord> Nobody is paid to work on Gnucash.
16:01:55 <przemo> nobody donates?
16:02:13 <candyflip> whether they're paid is irrelevent. The fact that there's one half time developer working on it is more meaningful.. that explains it
16:02:20 <candyflip> unpaid developers do better work
16:03:00 <candyflip> so much waste goes on in corporate software dev
16:03:43 <candyflip> and in the end commercial developers are just shoving in garbage that barely passes review, if that, just to meet an arbitrary deadline
16:07:49 * candyflip has been tempted to work on the gnucash project
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16:11:36 <warlord> patches are always welcome!
16:13:39 <candyflip> is it written in C or C++?
16:15:23 <jsled> mostly C
16:15:46 <jsled> which is to say: it's all C (not C++), but there are some parts in scheme.
16:15:50 <jsled> (not a mix of C and C++)
16:16:21 <candyflip> yeah, i noticed scheme was needed to write a report module
16:16:31 <candyflip> i'm keen to learn scheme for that purpose
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