2009-09-13 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:29:15 <jrrs> am pulling my brains out trying to schedule my salary. i have a fresh data file, created a checking:mybank account and income:salary, i can edit a single transaction (such as saying on 5/15/2009 deposit $900 into checking:mybank from income:salary) and that looks like it is working as expected
00:29:27 <jrrs> but for the friggin life of me i cannot get a scheduled transaction to occur
00:29:36 <jrrs> like, repeat that once every month on the 15th
00:30:13 <jrrs> i go through the scheduled transaction dialogue (while my deposit in question is highlighted) and tell it to go monthly and hit ok and nothing happens.
00:30:25 <jrrs> under advanced, create automatically is checked, enabled is checked
00:30:38 <jrrs> maybe i have a grand misunderstanding of what is supposed to happen
00:30:55 <jrrs> but i am expecting it to auto create 4 more such deposits
00:31:09 <jrrs> err 3; 6/15, 7/15, 8/15.
00:31:12 <jrrs> but it doesn't do that
00:31:25 <jrrs> any thing i do in the scheduled transaction window creates zero effect
00:54:51 <jrrs> i guess i have to go to 'Actions' and then 'Scheduled Transactions' and then "Since Last Run". wish i hadn't've had such a hard frustrating time figuring that out
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00:59:05 <gxti> yes, it only creates them on startup or when you do 'since last run'
01:00:19 <jrrs> entirely possible i missed it in the documentation due to not reading it right or frustration in its counterintuitivity (to me)
01:00:35 <jrrs> but WOW that was a steep and non-obvious (to me) thing to deal with
01:02:51 <jrrs> i guess it might be a fundamental difference in expectation? after playing around with scheduled transactions it seems that they're effectively a script of date-dependent account actions instead of an overall rule governing activity in the file
01:03:42 <jrrs> like, make a secheduled transaction to put money in your income:salary, run it, then delete the scheduled transaction -- its results remain in force (as opposed to if it was simply a governing rule, the results could be expected to cease to exist once the rule is gone)
01:03:43 <gxti> it's not a huge difference
01:04:16 <gxti> it gets the job done and is a lot easier to code and understand than something where transactions magically appear
01:05:39 <jrrs> that's where i'm pointing with the misunderstanding/philosophy/expectation thing
01:05:47 <jrrs> i'm not trying to assert gnucash is doing anything wrong at all
01:06:09 <jrrs> rather, what i am thinking of (eg what's intuitive to me for my use case) is just really not how it operates
01:07:15 <gxti> it could help to automatically run after any changes are saved
01:07:50 <gxti> but really the only difference is running once on startup/demand, versus running "continuously"
01:08:13 <gxti> and i don't think having transactions go away when the SX is deleted is a good idea, even if they're future transactions
01:08:48 <gxti> although that could be a separate action since it would occasionally be useful
01:08:50 <jrrs> or to notify the user "this isn't going to do anything until you go somewhere else and do this one thing; maybe click here to read more about this concept"
01:09:17 <gxti> well, they run automatically every time you start gnucash
01:09:24 <jrrs> nod
01:09:27 <gxti> just not automatically after you make a change
01:09:34 <jrrs> it didn't occur to me to close and reopen it tho
01:10:13 <jrrs> i'm like "ok, i am going to try gnucash again and see if i can figure the damn thing out; i want to simply start by having it automatically input my salary, which is a constant $ on a constant interval, this is GOTTA be easy in here"
01:10:22 <jrrs> wham stuck
01:10:54 <jrrs> and really, again, maybe i missed it in frustration or something, but i didn't see anything clearly saying "go RUN the scheduled transactions"
01:11:11 <jrrs> it is logically true that since they're called literally "scheduled" that you might have to "run" them
01:11:35 <gxti> a big button in the sx editor would help with that
01:11:37 <jrrs> but i'm just thinking "i get paid once a month and i just told it to keep paying me once a month WTFFFFFFFF why is it not doing that"
01:11:54 <jrrs> esp. after hitting ok and seeing really nothing happen
01:12:09 <jrrs> i ended up making and remaking things in subtly different ways thinking i was creating them incorrectly
01:12:44 <jrrs> once i finally found the "since last run" button and the computer TANKED wholesale on hourglass pinwheel, it dawned on me i think i finally told it to effing do what i thought i had been doing
01:13:07 <jrrs> after that hump it's understandable; but until that discovery i was about ready to throw the mouse with how nothing was #$*@#! working
01:14:32 <jrrs> and google for like "gnucash salary schedule" or "... recurring", etc, didn't come out and say "go run them" - ... again, probably my shortfall in understanding, but WOW
01:42:43 <jrrs> anyway, thanks for the help
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14:29:20 <andrew> Hi,
14:29:39 <andrew> Does gnucash interoperate with the UK government?
14:30:17 <andrew> My accountant is going to Sage, because the UK governemnt integrates seamlessly, I wondered if there was a way to do this kind of thing with gnucash?
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21:16:32 <pj> I am newbie to gnucash. I have two checking accounts, each at a different bank, that I want to be able to import OFX or QFX to each account . I don't know how to get GNUCASH to differentiate between the two checking accounts. I have the two bank accounts set up as Bank and Top level in GnuCash. The transactions downloaded from bank two always post to account 1. I can't find where to fix...
21:16:35 <pj> ...this. Can you help? I know I'm not doing something correctly.
21:16:35 <pj> I am using 2.2.9 on windows xp and like it very much. I did use Quicken (don't like it much). A very small local bank here got tired of Quicken's pay frequently to play and wouldn't pay Quicken to use the QFX format and has only the older QIF format, or OFX for MS Money I think? I don't want to change banks, but I would like to download the transactions.
21:16:36 <pj> Thanks for your help.
21:20:39 <warlord> pj: when you first did the import from bank2 did you assign it to the incorrect account?
21:20:40 <gncbot> warlord: Sent 1 day, 5 hours, and 21 minutes ago: <dbreiser> would you please take a look at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=595017 to see if my patch does correctly what you told me to do? No complaints from my compiler, but...
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