2009-07-26 GnuCash IRC logs
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04:11:53 <asqui> Hello. Sorry to repeat this question; I asked it a couple of days ago but didn't get an answer and I'm not sure if that was because nobody knows, or because it was an offpeak time when nobody is around.
04:11:54 <asqui> Is it possible to export report customisations, or somehow persist them, so that other people who use the same GNUCash file can see the same report views?
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04:14:20 <Peter_> hi charles
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05:29:03 <warlord> linas: I think I missed part of the conversation here. I think it's that your net link is saturated?
05:29:11 <warlord> @op jsled linas
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05:29:47 <warlord> Phil is supposed to be uploading to SF, but apparently SF redesigned their pages and he can't figure out how to get to the file management page.
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07:01:59 <twanny796> gnucash for windows : this application has failed to start because MSVCR71.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this prob, any ideas?
07:03:56 <cortana> whoa, it builds with Visual C++!?
07:04:04 <cortana> or is that a message from the installer?
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08:26:58 <warlord> it does not build with VC++. It uses gcc/msys
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08:33:42 <Jimraehl> In case anyone is interested, I updated the Windows build wiki at http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Windows based on my experience. There were out-of-date links, plus I added some tips.
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08:54:30 <cortana> then i wonder why the error...
08:57:00 <warlord> could be the installer?
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12:29:15 <mc> hiho. are windoze builds supported?
12:31:23 <linas> warlord, last night gxti volunteered to post the gnucash binaries on an amazon s3/cloudedge server, and I said 'sure'
12:32:21 <JimRaehl2> mc: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Windows
12:32:45 <JimRaehl2> See the section on an almost automated build
12:33:03 <mc> well, i installed it already and entered some data, used sqlite3 as backend, but i repeatedly miss simple transactions, which shouldnt be gone whatsoever
12:34:26 <JimRaehl2> Miss what? I use XML data files, and lose nothing.
12:35:06 <mc> i imported financial accounts via MT940 and after two days half of the transactions of that account is simply gone. found to be nowhere :/
12:35:37 <gxti> linas: http://partiallystapled.com/pub/gnucash/sources/unstable/2.3.x/
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12:37:26 <linas> mc the sqlite backend is experimental and probably buggy
12:37:43 <mc> better use xml?
12:37:56 <JimRaehl2> Interesting. I wonder what others are experiencing with their sql databases.
12:38:17 <linas> the 2.3.x series is an unstable, experimental branch, and data loss is .. well, not wanted, but there aren't any gauanteees till they shake out all the bugs
12:38:27 * mc tries to remember sqlite syntax to look into the db file directly.
12:38:29 <linas> above note for mc
12:38:44 <linas> select * from tablename;
12:38:57 <mc> Yeah, but how to show tables;
12:39:07 <gxti> .tables
12:39:15 <mc> thanks =)
12:39:29 <linas> also, try .help and .tables
12:39:43 <gxti> and .schema
12:39:55 <gxti> describe foobar; -> .schema foobar
12:47:06 <mc> mh. dont find it inside the sqlite.
12:48:38 <mc> ok, thanks, will try 2.2.9 w/ xml then first
12:51:05 <linas> gxti, your URL is now live on the gnucash page.
12:52:51 <gxti> huzzah
12:53:34 <mc> whuzzah. 2.3.x always had "save" greyed out, only "save as" worked, i was doubting myself, but seems its a real bug
12:53:36 <linas> warlord-afk I modified the news item to announce URL directly, instead of svn'ing it as I should --
12:54:05 <gxti> linas: oh, that's not actually s3 btw
12:54:07 <linas> mc, best place to report bugs is probably mailing list and/or bug tracker
12:54:13 <gxti> linas: i'm just running it off my colo
12:54:27 <linas> nbot sure the developers are here or listening much
12:54:35 <linas> ah
12:57:28 <linas> if I see bandwidth use drop in a few hours, we'll know why ...
12:57:37 <linas> lets see its noon now
12:58:18 <gxti> i'm already seeing hits
12:58:45 <linas> let me know how many hits/minute
12:59:59 <mc> when does gnucash actually save modified entries?
13:00:21 <gxti> to file? when you click save
13:00:28 <linas> since my bandwidth maxes out at 7.5 win32-exe downloads/hour (since its a 75MB download
13:00:43 <mc> jumping into the next line? closing sheet? doing save? exiting program?
13:00:55 <mc> mh
13:01:02 <gxti> if you're using sqlite though who knows
13:01:05 <linas> and I think I was seeing 30+ wind32-exe downloads started every hour
13:01:35 <mc> gxti: okay, guessed something like that. 2.2. has a nice automagically save dialogue popping up which i never had in 2.3/sql
13:02:06 <linas> mc, I would hope that the sql version would "save all the time" but I have no idea.
13:02:35 <mc> =)
13:03:31 <mc> <3
13:03:51 <mc> 2.2 seems quite more logical than 2.3 in quite some aspects
13:07:41 <linas> warlord-afk I also notice there are no md5sums or gpg sigs for any of the downloads
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13:42:23 <linas> gxti so -- how many concurrent downloads now?
13:47:23 <gxti> this instant, none, but i have a screenful of hits in the access log
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14:01:36 <linas> gxti -- cat gnucash-access.log |grep "[exe|tar]" |cut -d " " -f 1 | sort |uniq |wc
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14:04:54 <gxti> linas: 8, and there's another one in progress now
14:12:48 <linas> curious. I've got 55 in progress
14:13:10 <linas> my grep was wrong though, should be without the square brackets
14:13:41 <gxti> i ended up using: grep '2\.3\.3' /var/log/httpd/access_log |cut -d' ' -f2 |sort -u |wc -l
14:13:58 <gxti> (different log format)
14:17:43 <linas> ahh the ip addr in in the second column, then ..
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14:25:44 <warlord> for the record, with SQL each commit is saved when you commit; So no 'save' dialog is required; saves happen immediately.
14:29:47 <warlord> You'll have to ask Phil about the md5sum/gpg sig.
14:29:59 <warlord> And hopefully we'll get it up on SF again..
14:30:06 <warlord> gotta run
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16:03:17 <linas> gxti -- download stats?
16:04:33 <Jimraehl> I submitted a patch for Bug 589787 ? Multi-line up/down scroll for register transaction Notes field text, if anyone is interested.
16:06:36 <linas> Thank you Jimraehl ! I hope the developers notice!
16:11:21 <Jimraehl> They should, if they read the gnucash-devel list.
16:12:49 <Jimraehl> And my message gets posted.
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17:05:26 <gxti> linas: 30
17:05:43 <gxti> if you're still getting craptons of traffic, maybe the links need rearranging
17:08:54 <linas> I'm still getting lots of traffic -- 38 concurrent downloads atm.
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17:12:53 <linas> ah dammit
17:14:49 <linas> Then theres this chinese chick who needs to download some of my files, and shes decided to download 22 files all at once, and that's gonna take her most of the week since they're all gigabyte-sized.
17:15:02 <linas> wtf
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17:31:07 <Jimraehl> I submitted a patch for Bug 589804 ? Additions to register transactions Action pulldown list, if anyone is interested. Also, message to gnucash-devel which awaits moderator action, as I'm a non-member.
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17:45:55 <linas> not sure who moderator is, maybe jsled
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17:53:53 <warlord> yeah, jsled is the moderator.
17:54:00 <warlord> Jimraehl: why are you not subbed?
17:54:03 <jsled> already moderated through
17:54:10 <jsled> :)
17:55:09 <warlord> ok
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18:18:17 <gxti> linas: 42
18:19:55 <linas> ok. what's the bandwidth out of your colo?
18:20:31 <linas> I mean, that your allowed to use?
18:20:35 <gxti> no idea, it's an odd arrangement
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18:21:32 <gxti> it's not maxed out -- it's just not getting many hits
18:21:46 <gxti> apache doesn't log how long requests take so i have no idea what the transfer rates are like
18:25:20 <gxti> the only hit still on the status page got an average rate of 540KB/s
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18:41:54 <warlord> 540KB? or Kb?
18:42:22 <warlord> 540KB == 4320Kb == 4.3Mb
18:48:14 <gxti> kilobytes, as in 1000 bytes
18:48:34 * warlord is considering comcast business class (2Mb up). Since I cant get FiOS (20Mb)
18:48:36 <gxti> i'm guessing it's 10mbit
18:48:44 <warlord> Nice.
18:48:49 <gxti> it's a colo, not a cable modem :P
18:49:18 <warlord> yeah.. I know.
18:55:32 <gxti> anyway, if you'd like me to host future releases, just ping me when it's out and i'll mirror it
18:55:48 <gxti> or if there's an announce-only list i could sign up for that
18:56:16 <warlord> there's gnucash-announce?
18:56:26 <warlord> But beyond that... talk to Phil?
18:56:31 <gxti> perfect
18:56:33 <warlord> Ideally he'll just upload it to SF.
18:57:08 <gxti> or not... it doesn't have any of the 2.3 releases
18:57:49 <warlord> yeah, because he can't seem to figure out how to reach the file manager site with the new SF site design.
18:57:59 <warlord> Also, we've only built 2.3.2 and 2.3.3
18:58:00 <gxti> neat
18:58:56 <gxti> anyway, the offer stands
18:59:09 <warlord> thanks.
19:02:31 <warlord> anyways, bedtime. good night
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20:31:24 <gxti> figured out how to add timing to the apache logs
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23:27:13 <gxti> "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.00; Windows 98)"
23:27:18 <gxti> that's disturbing... i seriously hope it's faked ;p
23:33:27 <linas> Heh. my wife ran win98 until about a year ago
23:33:58 <linas> how many downloads today?
23:35:16 <gxti> 61 unique downloaders total
23:35:58 <linas> Hmm Seems like most people aren't hitting your link
23:37:09 <linas> we need the regular website maintainer to step in and put the link where people will click on it