2009-07-25 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:03:16 <basics> hello. I need to write off some A/R as bad debt. What is the best way to do this?
00:20:36 <linas> dunno, but my first impluse would be to create an account called "bad debt" or "forgiven debt" or "goodwill charity" or something like that, and transfer everything to there, basics
00:22:17 <linas> when you close the books at the end of the period, you'd zero this out (merge it into equity)
00:25:50 <basics> I've already created an expense account called "bad debt". But how do I make sure that particular A/R is transferred to bad expense, not just the amount?
00:30:49 <basics> I've tried using the "transfer" from A/R to bad debt. But when I look at the list of aging A/R, the transferred bad debt is still listed.
00:43:34 <linas> ahh .. I think you want to mark it as "paid" and the payer is "bad debt", or something like that. I'm not sure, I haven't done A/R in a long long time
01:18:21 <basics> hmm...using the business features then..."Marking it as paid" means using the "process payment" feature to remove the bad debt from A/R aging list. But I don't know what you mean by the payer being "bad debt".
01:33:46 <basics> Thank you linas for your help. I'll have to think more about this tomorrow.
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12:09:39 <Administrator> where can I download the Windows version?
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12:11:56 <jsled> twanny796: uh, go to http://www.gnucash.org/ look for "Downloads" and "Windows binary".
12:16:04 <twanny796> jsled : just cannot download a good one
12:16:15 <jsled> what do you mean?
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12:59:43 <JimRaehl2> While building Gnucash in Windows XP using /c/soft/packaging/install.sh, is /c/soft/gnucash/build/packaging/win32/gnucash.iss generated during the build? I found that if "AQBANKING_WITH_QT=no" is specfied in /c/soft/packaging/custom.sh, there are 7 QT DLL's included in gnucash.iss at about line 82, which are not found. They are not built at the expected location, due to "no".
13:00:30 <JimRaehl2> My workaround was to comment out the 7 QT lines. However, it appears gnucash.iss is generated, as my workaround disappeared during the next build.
13:08:44 <JimRaehl2> Item #2: if anyone is interested, I updated http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Windows#Instructions_for_an_.28almost.29_automated_build based on my experience. There was missing information, some out-of-date information, and I added some tips.
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18:52:48 <SPARTAAA> i have a queston about gnucash
18:52:54 <SPARTAAA> can someone help me?\
18:54:08 <SPARTAAA> ...
18:54:19 <SPARTAAA> hmmm
18:54:35 <SPARTAAA> maybe some flashing bars are in order?
18:54:44 <SPARTAAA> andrewsw
18:54:50 <SPARTAAA> cortana
18:55:57 <SPARTAAA> fbond:
18:56:00 <SPARTAAA> Guy-:
18:56:02 <SPARTAAA> sid:
18:56:05 <SPARTAAA> kfo_:
18:56:08 <SPARTAAA> goodger_:
18:56:11 <SPARTAAA> gxti_:
18:56:18 <SPARTAAA> nomeata:
18:56:22 <SPARTAAA> delaman:
18:56:26 <SPARTAAA> jsled:
18:56:29 <SPARTAAA> puck:
18:56:34 <SPARTAAA> todd_:
18:56:36 <SPARTAAA> Demitar:
18:56:42 <SPARTAAA> ffffffffffffffffffffffffffs
18:56:58 <Guy-> you know, this is sooooo not going to work.
18:57:34 <Guy-> the way it works is that you ask your question and then wait... hours, maybe days, until someone replies (or doesn't)
18:57:39 <gxti_> SPARTAAA: you are beyond help. i suggest suicide.
18:57:43 <Guy-> annoying people won't get them to help you.
18:57:43 <SPARTAAA> srsly?
18:57:53 <SPARTAAA> i wsa just wondering if anyone was here
18:58:04 <SPARTAAA> and my question is short and simple
18:58:09 <Guy-> yeah, and you've pissed them off
18:58:19 <SPARTAAA> oh noes D:
18:59:11 <SPARTAAA> so no one interested in answering a question re: split transactions?
18:59:20 <linas> How old are you, spartaaa?
18:59:57 <SPARTAAA> i'm sorry//
19:00:06 <SPARTAAA> this is gnucash right?
19:00:36 <gxti_> you still haven't actually asked a question, so i'm not sure what you want us to do
19:01:26 <SPARTAAA> i am having issues entering split transactions
19:01:41 <SPARTAAA> i'm doin' it wrong
19:01:59 <SPARTAAA> but i can't seem to figure out why
19:03:24 <SPARTAAA> can someone link me to a step by step
19:03:52 <SPARTAAA> or maybe there is a simple step that noobs seem to get wrong quite often that u would share with me
19:04:04 <SPARTAAA> or maybe provide me a link
19:04:12 <SPARTAAA> have googled it before
19:04:22 <SPARTAAA> but the material seem kind of vague
19:04:40 <SPARTAAA> and having followed it to the letter produces unwanted results
19:04:56 <SPARTAAA> it r perplexing
19:06:15 <SPARTAAA> so anyone here familiar with the process?
19:10:32 <SPARTAAA> ...
19:13:12 <SPARTAAA> ♥
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19:41:58 <jsled> yeah, that whole addressing everyone before even actually *trying* to ask a coherent question thing is douchebaggery.
19:42:44 <jsled> The tutorial and concepts guide has a good Split transactions example
19:45:18 <jsled> SPARTAAA: http://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.0/C/gnucash-guide/txns-registers1.html#txns-registers-multiaccount2
19:45:24 <linas> day 3 of gnucash.org being completely swamped by download traffic
19:45:40 <SPARTAAA> thanks
19:46:03 <SPARTAAA> in my short life i have been accused of much
19:46:16 <jsled> linas: yeah, it is pretty slow. is it still at your house? what sort of connection is it behind?
19:46:18 <SPARTAAA> but never any sort of generalized douchebaggery
19:46:18 <linas> that latest release sure is popular ...
19:46:59 <jsled> SPARTAAA: well, it is. Don't meta-ask, just ask your question and wait. you basically went around calling everyone's attention to your !IMPORTANT! non-question.
19:47:09 <jsled> you didn't bother to help us help you.
19:47:18 <jsled> you just wanted our *attention*.
19:47:27 <SPARTAAA> my apologies
19:47:43 <SPARTAAA> i am used to quicker reponse time in terms of IRC
19:47:56 <SPARTAAA> but thats my fault
19:47:58 <jsled> well, some channels are, and some aren't.
19:48:00 <SPARTAAA> not anyone elses
19:48:08 <jsled> And this one isn't.
19:48:14 <SPARTAAA> duly noted
19:48:58 <jsled> anyways, I suggest changing the register view to "auto-split" or "transaction journal". It makes the fact that *every* transaction is a split transaction more apparent. And that's very important to understand.
19:49:22 <SPARTAAA> i see
19:49:58 <SPARTAAA> it seem when i try to do the expenses from my pay cheques that the balance grows larger instead of smaller
19:50:32 <SPARTAAA> somewhere i am screwing up (obviously) but where i know not
19:51:47 <gxti_> the balance on the expense accounts?
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19:54:25 <linas> a new download of the tarball or the .exe is launched every 2 minutes or so, which is as fast/faster than the downloads can be finished.
20:00:38 <gxti> linas: considered something like amazon s3 and/or cloudfront?
20:02:16 <cortana> SPARTAAA: screenshot? :)
20:03:29 <gxti> although now that i look at it, cloudfront isn't actually cheaper than s3... weird.
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20:34:29 <SPARTAAA> one sec
20:34:33 <SPARTAAA> i was walking my dog
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22:13:01 <zoombabwe> anyone know what could cause this? http://tinypic.com/r/2qmnamd/3
22:13:28 <zoombabwe> that's the window that appears when i "Start AqBanking Wizard" from the online banking setup
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23:26:55 <linas> gxti, usually my existing connection is enough, the site is rarely 'slashdottted'
23:27:30 <linas> BTW, seems like more than 1/2 of the downloads are for gnucash-2.3.3-setup.exe
23:27:44 <linas> where have all the linux users gone?
23:29:02 <gxti> probably installing via their distribution, like me
23:34:52 <linas> ah, right windows doesn't have a distro!
23:36:18 <linas> hmm cloudfront looks fairly cheap, their calculator tells me that it would be about $20-$30/month which is eminently reasonable
23:37:51 <gxti> look at s3 instead; cloudfront wasn't what i thought it was
23:38:08 <gxti> (you have to use s3 to use cloudfront anyway)
23:38:09 <delaman> when is 2.4.0 going to come out?
23:40:25 <linas> yeah, I've used s3 before. Its not so cheap.
23:41:24 <linas> on s3, you get a virtual server, and if you do disk-io intensive things, and if the other guy is doing it too, then you can get a bad disk io bottleneck
23:41:46 <gxti> that's ec2
23:42:14 <linas> and I noticed the high-cpu-load jobs+ medium disk-io also can suffer badly
23:42:18 <gxti> s3 is the storage service, and cloudfront is a fancier version that's mainly intended to reduce latency. i was under the impression that the transfer costs were significantly lower, but they aren't (except in rediculously large quantities)
23:42:22 <linas> oh right yes, ec2
23:42:28 <linas> no haven't used s3
23:44:38 <linas> one other interesting thing I noticed:
23:46:39 <linas> while I'm being hit, I'm also browing the net (this is my home connection) and I noticed that most sites load very slowly, but a few load as if there was no problem: google, and slashdot remain responsive
23:47:14 <linas> Some sites are so slow that they never actually get around to loading.
23:47:26 <gxti> anyway, i'd be happy to poke it into s3 for you
23:47:30 <linas> I wonder what the difference is, and why this would be
23:47:57 <linas> if you're hapy to pay the bill, then I suppose so ...
23:48:05 <gxti> but of course
23:48:14 <linas> gxti, its very late here, I should be sleeping already ... can we talk tommorrow?
23:48:18 <gxti> sure
23:48:27 <gxti> i'll go ahead and upload and leave you the links
23:48:29 <linas> what time is a good time for you?
23:48:53 <linas> ah, OK.
23:49:45 <linas> I suppose that warlord-afk and andrewsw should read the above
23:52:06 <linas> fyi I expect the traffic to die down in 2-3 days to a perfectly managable level. So this is just a temporary peak
23:52:57 <gxti> in fact, i'm going to skip S3 and just stick it on my colo
23:53:16 <gxti> unless *that* gets maxed out :P
23:54:25 <gxti> now downloading gnucash-2.3.3-setup.exe at a dialuptacular 5KB/s