2009-06-16 GnuCash IRC logs
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06:37:59 <rockfx01> hello
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06:42:16 <rockfx01> anybody on?
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08:08:50 <Jimraehl> Bug 585939 has been added to the database, regarding opening XAC file crashes Gnucash Windows 2.3.1
08:12:52 <warlord> thanks
08:19:42 <Jimraehl> Routine parse_date_with_year in src/import-export/csv/gnc-csv-model.c appears to be the native CSV date parser. This has a complicated regular expression parser, which I think is slow and unnecessary. I'm guessing that parser is the culprit for bug 585812 where only dash separator works for native CSV imported dates. I would have written a simple loop to collect strings of digits separated by non-digit characters. That's all that's needed,
08:19:42 <Jimraehl> and handles any separator the banks want to throw. (End of gripe)
08:21:52 <warlord> Jimraehl: The nice thing about a regex is that it quickly tells you whether the string doesn't match at all.
08:23:01 <warlord> But you're welcome to submit a patch that fixes it; and you can even test it to see if your iterative solution even works..
08:23:31 <warlord> Honestly, we should have some generic date parsing code that could be used everywhere; keeping in mind that you don't necessarily know a priori what date format is being used.
08:23:59 <warlord> there are generally four date formats: y-m-d y-d-m d-m-y m-d-y
08:27:46 <Jimraehl> Would be nice to work on it, but first I have to get past the Windows 2000 file permission problem on setting up the build: Extracting sqlite-amalgamation-3.6.1.tar.gz ... tar: Child died with signal 13 (signal 13 = file permissions)
08:28:37 <Jimraehl> Maybe if I find time this weekend, I might switch to Win XP or Ubuntu, which are also on my computer. But that takes time.
08:28:42 <warlord> Sorry, dont know what to tell you.. The build works fine for me on my XP VM.
08:28:58 <warlord> (and obviously works fine on Linux)
08:32:33 <Jimraehl> I agree about generic date parser. My old DOS finance program by Parsons Technology (Money Counts) handles any date construct I can think of. Just a two-digit number is taken as a day, with the month and year filled in. Even handles month names (Jan, Ferb,...) as well as space separators.
08:34:14 <warlord> date-cell does some of that.. single-digit implies this month, two implies this year. but it doesn't accept any sep.
08:37:00 <warlord> But for import, you need a two-stage parser.. Because it's possible to have ambiguous date input. In an importer you CANNOT assume 'current month' or 'current year'.
08:43:29 <Jimraehl> Agreed on import. Thanks for the chat. Now, it's time to get ready for work.
08:54:30 <warlord> have a good day.
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18:30:11 <GrayThunder> how do I process a deposit received on an invoice?
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18:41:43 <GrayThunder> or how do I process any payment on an invoice?
18:55:13 <warlord> GrayThunder: click on "Process Payment", select the customer, enter in the amount the paid.
18:55:18 <warlord> they paid
18:55:44 <GrayThunder> must I post the invoice first?
18:55:52 <warlord> no.
18:56:25 <GrayThunder> if I don't, the A/R goes negative. is this normal?
18:56:45 <warlord> yes.
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18:57:13 <GrayThunder> ahhh. when I post the invoice then all will be normal?
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19:00:56 <GrayThunder> and the payment does not show on the invoice. hmmmm
19:01:27 <lobsang> Even if you reload it?
19:02:55 <GrayThunder> yes
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19:10:07 <GrayThunder> i even tried posting the invoice and still the payment doesn't show on the invoice.
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19:45:48 <GrayThunder> anyone? how do i print an invoice to show that it has been paid, i.e. zero balance?
19:48:09 <GrayThunder> or is it even possible to do that?
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21:14:30 <rockfx01> hello
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21:20:35 <rockfx01> I was wondering - is it possible to keep track of "subaccounts" in GNUCash - not from the traditional perspective of each subaccount being its own, private account, but where the subaccounts are each different subsections of a 'main' account, and can be viewed either as a whole from the main accuont, or as separate parts in the subaccounts, while reconciliation always is performed on the 'main' account. I will explain this since
21:22:59 <jsled> rockfx01: cut off at "since".
21:23:26 <jsled> but I believe there's a specific "include subaccounts" checkbox during reconciliation for just that purpose.
21:23:28 <rockfx01> jseld: thanks, I suppose I should use shorter messages :)
21:23:40 <jsled> IRC has an inherent limit.
21:23:46 <rockfx01> I will explain this since it probably is not clear:
21:23:56 <rockfx01> For example, I have a savings account where I put away a certain percentage from each paycheck for general savings, but I also save certain fixed amounts every month for different expenses such as auto insurance, doctors visits, vacations, rainy day fund, etc.
21:23:57 <jsled> some clients will simply truncate, some will break and continue in a subsequent messages.
21:24:23 <rockfx01> Ideally i'd like to be able to track each of these individual expense accounts separately so that I know how much in savings is allocated towards a particular expense category, and can pull money out of an individual category/subaccount to pay bills from that category.
21:25:26 <rockfx01> But in order to properly reconcile and view the account as a whole, I have to be able to still manage the account as a whole
21:25:37 <rockfx01> whoops that was redundant :{
21:25:38 <rockfx01> :P
21:26:22 <rockfx01> i only started using gnucash a couple months ago so I'm not really sure if this is possible
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21:30:17 <rockfx01> i have to run but if anyone can answer my question I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks!
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21:46:22 <GrayThunder> the top line of my "customer report" does not print. where can I make the adjustment so this line prints?
21:51:17 <GrayThunder> actually it is the top 2 lines that don't print.
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22:18:06 <warlord> GrayThunder: export as HTML and load into firefox, then print from there?
22:19:10 <warlord> GrayThunder: For the Invoice, Options -> Display -> Payments
22:19:59 <warlord> rockfx01: jsled answered your question.
22:20:30 <warlord> Use subaccounts for your buckets.. And then "include subaccounts" when you reconcile.
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23:12:44 <warlord> OKay, good night.
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23:13:28 <Rafael> has anybody moved from microsft money to gnucash?
23:13:28 <gncbot> Rafael: Sent 3 days, 0 hours, and 47 minutes ago: <warlord> many people have moved from microsoft money to gnucash. Ask on gnucash-user mailing list.
23:24:22 <Rafael> Has anybody here move from microsoft money to gnucash, i have some specific questions to ask beofre i move into gnucash
23:33:03 <rockfx01> ok thanks warlord/jsled! I will try it out
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