2009-06-10 GnuCash IRC logs

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09:30:08 <vachaun22_wrk> would the SQL backend be sufficient to simply track an account balance so multiple users could use the same data at the same time?
09:33:29 <warlord> No
09:33:40 <warlord> GnuCash still doesn't have multi-user support.
09:34:03 <vachaun22_wrk> even using a database?
09:34:10 <warlord> yes.....
09:34:18 <vachaun22_wrk> shoot
09:34:21 <warlord> the database is just a data store method.
09:34:36 <warlord> It's a step, but not sufficient.
09:34:50 <warlord> The GnuCash app still caches all the data and wont notice changes in the DB.
09:35:04 <vachaun22_wrk> until the app is reloaded?
09:35:48 <warlord> Until the file is re-opened, yes.
09:36:06 <vachaun22_wrk> even without the updates from the database, it would still be a step in the right direction getting away from entering transactions in a spreadsheet though
09:36:16 <warlord> Sure..
09:36:33 <warlord> And you can still serialize access; having two people working on the same data file at different times.
09:36:35 <vachaun22_wrk> basically they are just entering debit and credit transactions in a spreadsheet....but with the file locking, people forget they have it open
09:36:53 <warlord> GnuCash also has file locking (even in the DB)
09:37:08 <vachaun22_wrk> so 2 people can't connect to the database at the same time?
09:37:18 <warlord> of course not.
09:37:33 <warlord> (not using gnucash)
09:37:41 <warlord> at least.. they shouldn't be able to.
09:37:52 <vachaun22_wrk> is there plans on changing this?
09:38:07 <warlord> what part of "gnucash doesn't support multi-user" are you not understanding?
09:38:33 <warlord> Yes, we'd like to eventually support it, but it's not just about letting multiple people connect to the database -- you have to deal with the caching issues.
09:38:38 <vachaun22_wrk> i understand that it doesn't support it, i'm wondering if there are plans on changing it so it can support multiple users
09:38:46 <warlord> Not in 2.4
09:39:17 <vachaun22_wrk> i know there are lots of transactional issues when it comes to multi user support, especially in financials
09:39:45 <warlord> Yep.
09:39:54 <warlord> And GnuCash does not use the db as a db.
09:39:58 <warlord> It's used as a datastore.
09:41:00 <vachaun22_wrk> ok, well like i said, i was just hoping to find a better solution than what they had come up with using the spreadsheet idea
09:41:29 <warlord> Well, gnucash is still better than the spreadsheet in general.
09:41:36 <warlord> But it wont solve your multi-user problem.
09:41:45 <vachaun22_wrk> tons better
09:42:57 <vachaun22_wrk> ok, thanks for the insight
09:43:38 <warlord> you're welcome
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10:56:47 <ska> What is the normal way (if any) to enter interest payments. I see there is one on the reconcile gui.
10:58:38 <warlord> It's a transaction from Income:... -> <interest-bearing account>
10:58:44 <warlord> How you enter it is up to you.
11:10:47 <ska> If it use the gui in reconcile, PaymentFrom-Interest Income, . seems to work ok..
11:21:30 <warlord> k
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16:41:23 <startup> hello?
16:41:35 <startup> looking for help coming up with a name for my business
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21:20:10 <warlord> @op chris
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