2009-06-01 GnuCash IRC logs

00:42:00 <warlord> FYI, Win32 Daily Builds are now available at http://code.gnucash.org/builds/
00:42:16 <warlord> Good night.
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07:21:19 <bluefox> how do I handle checks?
07:21:22 <bluefox> they show up at random times
07:21:29 <bluefox> also bank to bank transfers
07:21:51 <bluefox> like if I transfer out of one bank, it vanishes 2 days before it appears in the next bank, the date stamps in each account are different
07:21:59 <bluefox> the same happens if I use a check to pay a credit card.
07:22:16 <bluefox> do i need to transfer to an "in transit" account and then transfer out of that?
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08:51:54 <localhost> hmmm... The link to "http://download.sourceforge.net/gnucash" under "GnuCash 2.3.0 Released" Does not work.
08:52:35 <localhost> It is 404.
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09:41:02 <warlord> bluefox: you don't NEED to.. Just pick one date (generally the date you send it). Then you can use the 'cleared' status to mark that it's actually hit the account.
09:41:44 <warlord> localhost: it works for me...
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12:27:46 <lenscape> can I customise the toolbar?
12:28:21 <jsled> no.
12:28:30 <jsled> Well, I mean, you have the source. ;)
12:29:03 <lenscape> jsled: I sort of meant without a major project plan
12:29:19 * jsled "customized" an xchat menu the other day. (who thought binding ctrl-l to "clear window" was a good idea??)
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13:48:28 <lenscape> I can't get another line item to come up in an invoice entry (vendor). Neither enter nor the big green cross on the toolbar does anything
13:53:22 <lenscape> The UI seems to get stuck sometimes and won't let you enter new lines in an invoice. I've had this a few times now in 2.2.6 and 2.2.9.
13:53:45 <lenscape> if you close the bill and re-open it from the vendors bill list, it's all OK again
13:53:52 <warlord> Interesting.
13:55:26 <lenscape> isn't it just
13:55:39 <warlord> File a bug report.
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13:56:51 <lenscape> warlord: not sure I have enough meat for anyone to diagnose it.
13:57:08 <lenscape> if I can reproduce it to order, I will
13:57:36 <warlord> ok
14:04:30 <warlord> lenscape: it's considered impollite to PM without asking first.
14:04:36 <warlord> impolite even ;)
14:04:51 <lenscape> I was working undercover
14:04:55 <warlord> But to answer your question: I was once the lead dev. Now I just manage the servers.
14:05:08 <warlord> (and provide architecture guidance)
14:06:25 <lenscape> were are you based?
14:08:13 <warlord> Boston
14:08:28 <lenscape> remarkable
14:10:25 <warlord> what is?
14:11:07 <lenscape> you being in Boston. I co-op a channel on freeserve with a guy from Boston.
14:11:39 <lenscape> freenode* not freeserve
14:16:58 <warlord> Boston is a large city..
14:19:46 <lenscape> half a million people isn't so big
14:20:07 <lenscape> there's 12 million in London
14:21:17 <lenscape> but that's not the point. Just a coincidence.
14:26:31 <warlord> Actually, there are 2 million in the Boston area.
14:26:36 <warlord> (I dont live in Boston proper)
14:31:13 <lenscape> I thought maybe you were in Europe as you seemed to keep similar hours
14:32:33 <warlord> ah
14:40:41 <lenscape> what's the logic behind not permitting negative invoices to be posted?
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14:47:49 <warlord> the posting logic has an invariant that invoices are "positive" and payments are "negative"
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14:49:32 <lenscape> we need some way to deal with situations that arise in business - like credit notes and refunds
14:50:52 <warlord> So i've been hearing.
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15:05:13 <lenscape> I'm trying to post a vendor credit note by using process payment but I'm not sure which accounts to use
15:07:37 <lenscape> I don't seem to be able to select the accounts reverse the posting of the original invoice
15:09:39 <lenscape> to* reverse
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15:11:26 <lenscape> my expense accounts aren't listed in the transfer account list
15:13:29 <warlord> Post it to a bank account, then change the bank account to the income account.
15:16:27 <lenscape> is that two transactions?
15:19:09 <warlord> no...
15:19:24 <lenscape> oh. Sorry then. I don't understand
15:19:38 <warlord> Which part don't you understand?
15:19:49 <warlord> Post the payment to a bank account, then change the bank account to the income account.
15:20:50 <lenscape> I'm in the payment information form. I have "Post To" which is the liability account and "Transfer Account" which lists banks etc
15:21:51 <lenscape> I don't see where I "change the bank account to the income account"
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15:34:03 <warlord> in the register.
15:34:20 <warlord> Post it to the bank account......
15:34:24 <warlord> ... then change the transaction
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15:47:48 <lenscape> warlord: are you saying change the account type of the current account in the register from Bank to A/Receivable ?
15:48:05 <lenscape> then post the payment. Then change it back again?
15:50:50 <warlord> No...............
15:51:14 <warlord> Which word that I've said didn't you understand?
15:52:56 <lenscape> "then change the bank account to the income account"
15:52:58 <lenscape> that bit
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15:53:52 <warlord> edit the transaction....
15:53:55 <lenscape> business -> vendor -> process payment
15:54:03 <warlord> Right, do that to the bank account..
15:54:42 <warlord> Then once it's posted, open the register, edit the transaction, and change the bank account to the income account.
15:54:55 <lenscape> ah
15:55:01 <lenscape> once it's posted
15:55:04 <lenscape> right
15:55:46 <lenscape> When I asked if it was two transactions, that was what I was trying to get to
15:56:05 <lenscape> thanks
16:01:33 <lenscape> sorted. Sorry for seeming dim
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16:10:44 <warlord> But itt's not two transactions.. There is only 1, the posted payment, which you modify after the fact.
16:12:16 <lenscape> yes. I didn't use helpful terminology
16:12:32 <lenscape> I should have used operations or something
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16:13:50 <warlord> Would've helped :)
16:25:49 <lenscape> when entering line items in an invoice, how can I select the tax table from the keyboard?
16:26:07 <lenscape> (without typing the whole name in)
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16:33:00 <warlord> I... don't know if you can.
16:33:13 <warlord> It should autofill, like the account.
16:34:15 <lenscape> yes- but everything starts with "input-1" they only differ by the last digit or two. Up/down cursor selection would be nice.
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16:42:19 <warlord> well, maybe you should use more descriptive names ;)
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