2009-05-12 GnuCash IRC logs

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04:46:58 <Teka> Hi gnucash starts but can not open any accounts - being using gnucash for 10 months
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04:53:36 <Teka> Hi gnucash statrs but can't open any accounts - being using for 10 months. Tried using previous revision of data and deleted program followed by downloading windows version of latest program but no joy
04:53:53 <Teka> any suggestions please?
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05:27:43 <puck> Hmmm, there's no report that'll show me the running balance of an account and all sub-accounts? (the sub-accounts are effectively journals for a bank account)
05:30:13 <puck> "Open Subaccounts" is soo close, but no running total
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08:10:41 <warlord> garyk: the bug is purely in a patch that the Debian people put in.
08:11:04 <warlord> Teka: what happens when you try to open an account?
08:11:21 <warlord> puck: maybe a transaction report?
08:11:33 <warlord> (no, there is no running balance of "account+subaccounts")
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08:53:40 <dilbert1970> hello everyone
08:54:59 <dilbert1970> may I ask a question about the scheduled transaction editor?
08:55:45 <warlord> sure, just ask
08:56:54 <dilbert1970> thanks. I feel quite stupid, but I can't find the manual for credit/debit formula anywhere...
08:58:07 <dilbert1970> like for example on my loan repayment SX
08:58:18 <dilbert1970> I'd like to add a field to the split
08:58:43 <dilbert1970> to account for the constant fee my bank adds to each payment
08:59:50 <dilbert1970> and of course I have to add the same amount to the "tot funds out" column as well
08:59:56 <warlord> Just add " + <fee amount>"
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09:08:10 <dilbert1970> ok, I just realized I misunderstood an error message :-(
09:09:13 <dilbert1970> when I try to modify the SX, I get "The Scheduled Transaction Editor cannot automatically balance this transaction. Should it still be entered?"
09:09:31 <warlord> Right, that just means that gnucash cannot heuristically check the entries.
09:09:46 <dilbert1970> so this has nothing to do with the formula syntax
09:09:48 <warlord> Happens to me all the time
09:09:52 <warlord> No.
09:11:10 <dilbert1970> it's probably caused not by my addition but by the fact that the total of the loan is "pmt" and the single rows are computed by "ppmt" and "ipmt"...
09:11:39 <dilbert1970> thank you very much
09:14:00 <dilbert1970> well, since I am here... could you point me to some resources about how to write (if it's possible) a custom import procedure?
09:14:22 <dilbert1970> my bank formats are totally non-standard.
09:16:49 <jsled> dilbert1970: if you can pastebin all the credit/debit formulæ, perhaps we can spot the imbalance.
09:17:11 <jsled> As for importing, writing a new importer is non-trivial; it's probably better to convert your bank's wacko format into QIF.
09:19:06 <dilbert1970> good point.
09:19:13 <dilbert1970> about the imbalance:
09:19:57 <dilbert1970> the "tot funds out" columns has only one row:
09:20:05 <dilbert1970> 1,03+pmt( 0,02288 / 12,00 : 85,00 : 42650,00 : 0 : 0 )
09:20:15 <dilbert1970> the "tot funds in" has three:
09:20:20 <dilbert1970> ppmt( 0,02288 / 12,00 : i : 85,00 : 42650,00 : 0 : 0 )
09:20:31 <dilbert1970> ipmt( 0,02288 / 12,00 : i : 85,00 : 42650,00 : 0 : 0 )
09:20:36 <dilbert1970> 1,03
09:20:55 <dilbert1970> --end of the split transaction-
09:21:23 <jsled> Ah. Try using '.' as the decimal separator, instead.
09:21:34 <jsled> Was this working without with "1,03" addition?
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09:22:01 <warlord> jsled: I suspect he's in a "comma-as-decimal-sep" locale
09:22:15 <dilbert1970> yes, I'm in the it_IT.utf8 locale
09:22:28 <jsled> IIRC the expression parser doesn't take that into account.
09:23:28 <warlord> jsled: I'm pretty sure it does, which is why SXes fail when you change locale.
09:23:53 <jsled> ah, right … cause it should save a normalized form, not the literal string.
09:24:10 <warlord> right.
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09:26:04 <dilbert1970> ok I did the two tests
09:26:44 <dilbert1970> if I manually enter the same expressions the druid created for me (i.e. without the +1,03)
09:27:20 <dilbert1970> I get the error message "... cannot balance ..."
09:27:38 <dilbert1970> if I try to substitute "," with "."
09:28:00 <dilbert1970> I get a "An error occurred while processing pmt" error message
09:29:18 <dilbert1970> well, since I trust that pmt=ppmt+ipmt, I can live with forcing gnucash to enter the transaction :-)
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15:35:47 <hibana> hi
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17:06:28 <johnteddy> Is there an intuit quickbooks for GNU/Linux, for accounting for a company, making invoices etc?
17:06:31 <johnteddy> can gnucash do that?
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