2009-04-11 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:39:49 <moon> hello
00:40:09 <moon> a first time gnucash user here.
00:41:00 <moon> I was wondering if there's anyone that could help me with a bill and inventory issue
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00:47:24 <moon> I have asset-inventory, expense-cost of goods. What I am trying to do is:
01:04:41 <moon> I have asset-inventory, expense-cost of goods. What I am trying to do is: 1. Buy goods from vendor (increase inventory) 2. Post bill for vendor (Accounts payable) 3. Process bill payment (post expense-cost of goods) 4. Sell goods to customer (decrease inventory) 5. Issue invoice to customer (accounts receivable) 6. Receive payment (income from sale). I would be really grateful if someone can show me how to do this.
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04:30:09 <lenscape> after I've assigned an expense to a job, how do I get that expense on to an invoice for that job?
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09:01:26 <lenscape> how do I post a credit note to a vendor account?
09:01:33 <lenscape> negative invoices don't work
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09:23:50 <lenscape> what do I use to view the help files? The help menu can't find them but I have.
09:29:53 <cortana> lenscape: not sure about the format on-disk, but they are on the web site too
09:30:24 <lenscape> cortana: oh. That's a shame. Nothing there about credit notes
09:30:39 <cortana> i think i've seen this discussed before but i don't use the business features so i'm not sure what the right answer is
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09:32:51 <cortana> http://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2008-October/027165.html
09:33:04 <cortana> not really very clear to me, but as i say, i am not familiiar with the business features :)
09:36:32 <lenscape> thanks for the help but that's not a satisfactory solution. It doesn't leave me with correct balances
09:36:43 <lenscape> cortana: ^^
09:37:07 <cortana> rats
09:37:22 <cortana> well, if you hang around hopefully someone who knows more than me will be able to suggest something :)
09:37:33 <cortana> (alternatively there is the mailing list)
09:38:18 <lenscape> "The current version of GnuCash doesn't have a paradigm for Credit notes."
09:38:31 <lenscape> from bugzilla
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11:19:44 <warlord> lenscape: Correct, GnuCash as-is has no credit note. You have three options: 1) unpost the original invoice, correct it, and repost it. 2) put the credit on a future invoice. 3) use Process Payment and modify the accounts appropriately.
11:19:59 <warlord> As for viewing the help files.. What OS/Distro do you use?
11:20:41 <warlord> For assigning an expense to an invoice.. Create an invoice for that customer and then click on the first column to assign it.
11:21:04 <warlord> (although there's a bug in there that it will appear on all open invoices -- and I haven't been able to track that one down)
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12:39:56 <moon> Hi. I am currently doing this: 1. Buy goods:increase asset-inventory and account payable 2. Sell goods: decrease asset-inventory, increase account receivable 3. Receive payment for goods: increase asset-checking account, decrease accounts receivable 4. Pay for goods: decrease account payable and asset-checking account, increase expense-cost of goods. Am I doing this correct? And how do I add the billing and invoicing
12:43:32 *** warlord-afk is now known as warlord
12:43:47 <warlord> moon: you're conflating acrual and cash accounting. GnuCash can't do it that way.
12:43:56 <warlord> Either you use the business features and get accrual accounting, or you don't and get cash.
12:45:31 <warlord> 1 is fine. 2 is fine. 3 is fine. 4 doesnt get the 'increase expese-cost of goods'
12:46:14 <warlord> (but perhaps #4 is a bug)
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13:15:29 <moon> warlord: Thanks for reply. I am a beginner so I'm not very familiar with this. Am I conflating accrual and cash accounting? I didn't realize I was. Then how should I go about to do this?
13:23:03 <JimRaehl2> I don't understand "Preferences > Register Defaults > Number of Rows", which is described as "Number of Rows: Display this many rows when a register is created." When is a register "created"? Does "rows" mean screen lines, or split-level splits, or several screen lines per split, or something else?
13:27:50 <JimRaehl2> I've tried in "Auto Split Ledger" mode to set to some non-zero number of rows, but nothing changes in the window.
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15:47:34 <moon> 1. Buy goods:increase asset-inventory and account payable 2. Sell goods: decrease asset-inventory, increase account receivable 3. Receive payment for goods: increase asset-checking account, decrease accounts receivable 4. Pay for goods: decrease account payable and asset-checking account, increase expense-cost of goods. Now if 1, 2, & 3 are fine, and 4 is not, how do I record an expense for cost of goods? I tried u
15:48:27 <moon> Warlord: could you show me the proper way to do it with business features and in the cash way?
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17:28:28 <moon> also one more thing to add. When I sell goods, the income-sales increase, and when paying for goods, the expense-cost of goods increases.
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17:55:16 * Tim_Abell spent far too long writing that email to gnucash-dev / github support
17:56:04 <Tim_Abell> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-devel/2009-April/025196.html
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17:58:52 <yuriyg> hi!
17:59:03 <Tim_Abell> hello :)
17:59:13 <yuriyg> have a problem using gnucash
17:59:25 <yuriyg> I was thinking this is a best place to ask
17:59:26 <yuriyg> :)
17:59:42 <yuriyg> namely the problem is with fidelity
18:00:04 <yuriyg> basically, I was able to setup a user in aqbanking
18:00:08 <yuriyg> and get the list of accounts
18:00:21 <yuriyg> but when I tried to get transactions, get get nothing back
18:00:40 <yuriyg> anyone experienced something like that?
18:01:18 <Tim_Abell> I'm just a user :)
18:01:43 <yuriyg> how do u like the app so far?
18:01:44 <Tim_Abell> my bank doesn't seem to know about apis
18:01:48 <Tim_Abell> love it
18:02:13 <yuriyg> hmm, I'm still trying to get everything to work; don't have much experience with accounting apps
18:02:22 <Tim_Abell> me neither
18:02:39 <Tim_Abell> i found the website etc quite good though
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18:06:00 <Tim_Abell> well, i still can't decide how to manage my source code after all that
18:07:43 <Tim_Abell> svn is no help at all
18:07:43 <Tim_Abell> bazaar doesn't play nice with gnucash, and I don't like it
18:07:43 <Tim_Abell> and git takes forever to clonen / re-attach to svn, putting off anyone who might join in with me
18:07:45 <Tim_Abell> bah
18:26:58 <Tim_Abell> overload catching up on the 2000 new messages on gnc-dev
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18:42:35 <matt> can a business cell phone also be my personal cell phone?
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18:44:24 <msimpson> can my business cell phone also be my personal cell phone?
19:12:54 <Tim_Abell> how on earth do you guys keep up with -devel *annd* -user ?
19:13:02 <Tim_Abell> i've been catching up for hours now
19:26:55 <sm> thunderbird, expand threads, skim!
19:28:14 <Tim_Abell> i'm down to 250 unread in devel now, i'm using collapsed / unread threads too.
19:43:06 <Tim_Abell> 4643 new messages in user. think i might mark all as read :-s
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