2009-03-29 GnuCash IRC logs
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05:38:24 <Gerto> Hello all, Small question: At the end of last year I used the "close books" function. It worked great, however, when I run reports about last year now, it's as if my income was -xx.xxx and expenses were -xx.xxx in december because of the closing transactions. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong here?
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06:15:49 <Nickste> Does GNUCash support networking? E.g. multiple users over a network?
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06:26:10 <cortana> Nickste: nope
06:36:02 <Nickste> Are there any other free accounting systems that do support it (hope this isn't inappropriate to ask!)
06:37:16 <cortana> quasar, sql-ledger, and the fork of sql-ledger whose name escapes me
06:37:24 <cortana> you still may be able to use gnucash depending on your exact needs
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06:38:08 <cortana> if you want to have lots of people using gnucash, but not at the same time, then you can keep your files on a shared network drive; or use something like subversion; or even set up a dedicated 'gnucash machine' and access it over a network with VNC or X11 for instance
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06:54:17 <Nickste> ok, thanks for the help cortana - the shared network drives may be a good solution :)
06:55:04 <cortana> you will want to test that gnucash's file locking works properly in that case :)
06:55:22 <cortana> at our company the gnucash files are simply kept in subversion, so you check out, modify, check in
06:56:47 <Nickste> kewl - will do
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07:56:08 <Gerto> Hello all, Small question: At the end of last year I used the "close books" function. It worked great, however, when I run reports about last year now, it's as if my income was -xx.xxx and expenses were -xx.xxx in december because of the closing transactions. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong here?
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10:25:24 <warlord> @tell Gerto not a bug per se, but once you close the books you cannot run reports against the closed period.
10:25:24 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
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10:41:56 <warlord> Wow, email has been wedged for 3 days.
10:42:11 <warlord> (I would have noticed that today when my reminder mail wasn't in my inbox)
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11:55:10 <iaindalton> I've installed the PPA for Ubuntu 8.10, but aptitude upgrade doesn't upgrade to the PPA version of GnuCash. What do I need to do to get it?
11:55:47 <cortana> iaindalton: what is the output of 'apt-cache policy gnucash'?
11:57:15 <iaindalton> cortana: http://paste.lisp.org/display/77742
11:58:01 <cortana> iaindalton: looks like the PPA has a version lower than the one in intrepid. which seems odd!
11:58:26 <cortana> does Gnucash have an ubuntu maintainer, or do they just use the package from debian?
11:58:34 <cortana> because even debian is still only on 2.2.6
11:58:34 <iaindalton> The latter
11:58:49 <iaindalton> at least, that's what http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Ubuntu says
11:59:15 <iaindalton> `aptitude show gnucash' says: Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>
11:59:41 <iaindalton> which is what most universe packages say
12:00:03 <cortana> i think you'll just have to wait for 2.2.8 to be packaged then and for ubuntu to sync
12:00:13 <cortana> (or build the source package from debian directly, once it's available)
12:00:52 <iaindalton> do you have ubuntu, debian, or other?
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12:01:32 <cortana> debian
12:01:49 <cortana> if you are really desperate for 2.2.8 then you can always build it from source
12:01:58 <iaindalton> does the `get prices' feature work for you? I'm trying to use the PPA version because that doesn't work for me
12:02:02 <iaindalton> It used to
12:02:03 <cortana> i don't use it myself
12:02:12 <cortana> if you run configure with --prefix=$HOME/gnucash then it will install into that directory and not mess anything up system-wise
12:02:27 <cortana> then once 2.2.8 becomes available from a package you can remove it from your home
12:02:31 <iaindalton> strange that it used to because the last patch change was in Sept
12:02:46 <iaindalton> sounds good
12:02:49 <iaindalton> I'll try that
12:03:00 <cortana> maybe the web site it downloads the quotes from changed its format
12:03:07 <iaindalton> could be
12:03:31 <iaindalton> I should try setting it to a different site first
12:03:32 <cortana> if you run 'aptitude build-dep gnucash' first then it should install everything you need
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12:07:05 <andrewsw> @tell warlord yeah sorry, should have @told or emailed you about the email instead of just plopping it in here...
12:07:05 <gncbot> andrewsw: The operation succeeded.
12:07:06 <test-gncbot> andrewsw: The operation succeeded.
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12:08:26 <iaindalton> No matter the source I use for getting stock prices, it fails. I think it might be the perl library pulling the quotes that doesn't work
12:16:50 <iaindalton> sudo gnc-fq-update fixed it
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13:37:25 <warlord> .
13:37:25 <gncbot> warlord: Sent 1 hour and 30 minutes ago: <andrewsw> yeah sorry, should have @told or emailed you about the email instead of just plopping it in here...
13:37:25 <test-gncbot> warlord: Sent 1 hour and 30 minutes ago: <andrewsw> yeah sorry, should have @told or emailed you about the email instead of just plopping it in here...
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13:37:42 <warlord> andrewsw: Yeah, especially if I wasn't here. :)
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14:27:17 <warlord> Dammit, how am I supposed to debug a startup crash that doesn't happen when run by hand?
14:27:19 <warlord> Starting milter-sender: /bin/bash: line 1: 2402 Segmentation fault milter-sender MilterSocket=/var/run/milter-sender/milter-sender.sock
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14:30:17 <cortana> warlord: persuade the process to dump a core file?
14:30:43 <warlord> Yeah, trying to figure out how to do that best.
14:31:32 <cortana> would a 'ulimit -c <something>' in the shell script do it?
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14:33:45 <warlord> There's a variable I can set..
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14:34:36 <warlord> I dont want to do the server migration until I get this service working.. I dont want to have to manually start milter-sender every time the system boots. Very frustrating that it works when I run it by hand..
14:35:44 <warlord> Of course, I have no idea where it might have dropped the corefile..
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15:04:07 <SpacedOut> What's the easiest way to send in a patch, bugzilla, mailing list, Debian bug report, ...? It's a one line optimization that made check and repair all 3 1/2 times faster.
15:06:05 <warlord> Either bugzilla or mailing list. Debian bug report wont get to us.
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15:07:37 <SpacedOut> The Debian route would just be the long way around depending on the maintainer. I'll try bugzilla then.
15:08:01 <warlord> VERY long way.
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15:22:05 <michiel> I haveproblems on importsof OFX-files, It seems to work only once. I amusing MijnGeldConverter to convert from CSV to OFX,and first run is fine, but every next import goes wrong. Tried both windowsand Linux versions, but behaviour is in this case equal......is this by design?
15:23:36 <warlord> Well, that was a fun problem with milter-sender, but I got it starting up at bootup now..
15:23:52 <warlord> michiel: do you supply different FITIDs?
15:24:19 <warlord> FYI, I'm going to be taking the old server down shortly..
15:24:35 <warlord> Make any last commits...
15:25:11 <michiel> don't know reallly...ShouldI be ableto see this in the files? and the server issue, did I pick up ald info?
15:25:24 <michiel> old info.... sorry....
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15:28:04 <warlord> I'm afraid I really dont know. I dont use the OFX importer (or any importer, for that matter)
15:29:57 <michiel> OK,looked up FITID's, and they are in there. Does Gnucash stores these ID's which might cause the behaviour?( have been swapping machines much, have to look for consequtively used files...)
15:30:15 <warlord> Yeah. You cannot duplicate FITIDs
15:31:39 <warlord> Server going down in 5 minutes...
15:34:01 <michiel> absolute newbie.....is other server taking over? ( I migh havea view to the problem through your tip, so might not be necesary.....)
15:36:21 <warlord> Nope, I'm doing server migration today. The new server will come up once the data has been migrated over. So email/svn/wiki/trac will all be down.
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15:37:32 <michiel> OK, well thanks for the advice, indeed FITID seems to be the problem, not sure though how to get around this without all the editing, but I will look through it.
15:38:16 <warlord> Each txn needs a unique fitid
15:39:05 <warlord> okay, server going down.
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19:12:27 <warlord> @nick gncbot
19:12:27 <gncbot`> warlord: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:12:42 <warlord> @whoami
19:12:42 <gncbot`> warlord: I don't recognize you.
19:13:11 <warlord> @nick gncbot
19:13:12 <gncbot`> warlord: Error: Someone else is already using that nick.
19:13:34 <warlord> linas: can you op gncbot`
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19:17:53 <fell> @nick gncbot
19:17:53 <gncbot`> fell: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
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19:28:21 <warlord> @op
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19:45:18 <warlord> Oh, so the new server should be up now.
19:45:29 <warlord> Let me know if anything doesn't work.
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21:04:21 <warlord> Please test the new server and let me know if you have any problems.
21:14:43 <linas> op gncbot
21:20:19 <warlord> ??? looks opped to me.
21:31:59 <warlord> (and you look opped too, linas)
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23:01:44 <dbreiser> wow. email from 2004. Using acai cleanse on the old server?
23:26:40 <fell> back to the future ;-)
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23:52:30 <Rafael_> can you do bill payment thru gnucash
23:54:40 <dbreiser> Rafael_: If you mean can you initiate a payment order upon which your bank acts, then it depends. In Germany using HBCI you can, but not in U.S. with OFX
23:56:31 <Rafael_> dbreiser: i am in the usa and i am using microsoft money, my accountant would like me to use double entry and i see that gncash has it, on the other hand i like the option of bill payment from inside money and that is why i was looking into it
23:57:39 <dbreiser> ok. you probably won't ever get that in gnucash. Intuit makes it too hard for open source to test, so it's too risky to build something that tries to do bill payment internally