2009-03-26 GnuCash IRC logs
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08:05:17 <SebastianHeld> hello andrewsw; I've uploaded a new patch to http://tellico.dyndns.org/drupal/node/1
08:05:29 <SebastianHeld> this one should compile with older glib versions
08:05:50 <SebastianHeld> can you please try. Thanks.
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12:35:31 * andrewsw wants tab completion for the entire internet in his address bar...
12:35:33 <andrewsw> mornin' all
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12:43:11 <SebastianHeld> hi andrewsw
12:43:15 <SebastianHeld> new patch available.
12:43:33 <andrewsw> yeah, I'm looking at it right now.
12:44:29 <andrewsw> you've patched configure.in as well, which is failing to apply here, but I'll see if I can just excise that out of the patch
12:46:00 <SebastianHeld> that's trunk <-> 2.2.9 ... only needed for HAVE_GLIB_2_14 and gtk
12:46:46 <andrewsw> yeah, I just chopped that out of the patch and it applies fine.
12:46:49 <andrewsw> building
12:47:23 <andrewsw> just so you understand, something like this change would go into trunk and not into 2.2 or any other stable branch.
12:47:34 <andrewsw> to do this kind of work, you really should be working against trunk.
12:47:54 <andrewsw> not that we aren't grateful!
12:48:38 <SebastianHeld> yes I see, but I'm working on 2.2.9, because I just want to use my patch - with a stable version
12:48:48 <andrewsw> understood.
12:48:52 <SebastianHeld> is trunk usable for productive work?
12:49:28 <andrewsw> I know warlord and maybe others use it. I probably should be...
12:50:01 <SebastianHeld> If the patch will ever be included, cleaning it up for trunk should not be a problem
12:51:46 <andrewsw> I would say there is a fair bit of demand for this import (it's been mentioned several times recently on -user).
12:53:05 <andrewsw> heh, I just crashed openoffice with ctrl-n
12:57:00 <andrewsw> ah, semi-colon separated values...
12:58:52 <andrewsw> SebastianHeld: okay, I have some initial feedback
12:59:05 <SebastianHeld> go on
12:59:17 <andrewsw> I'd like to see the order of your dialogs reversed otherwise I have to create a file before I know the format...
13:00:07 <andrewsw> And I think the actual regex should be buried behind a button so that people can accept the default without having to look at that thing ;-)
13:00:57 <SebastianHeld> normally you just have a file to be imported, I thought...
13:01:09 <SebastianHeld> but it's beautiful ;)
13:01:13 <andrewsw> Also, the quotes are included. I have 123;"some company";"some guy";"1 any street";... and all the quotes are in the record
13:01:23 <SebastianHeld> change the regex
13:01:36 <SebastianHeld> or export without quotes
13:01:39 <andrewsw> Am I wrong in assuming that most csv's would have quotes in them?
13:01:45 <SebastianHeld> soo many options..
13:01:58 <andrewsw> yeah, I get that, I'm just thinking of what email will show up on -user...
13:01:59 <SebastianHeld> OOCalc has a check box for this thing
13:02:03 <andrewsw> yes.
13:02:26 <SebastianHeld> but we may have two or three standard cases -> option buttens
13:02:31 <andrewsw> there are a couple of minor points (like menu accelerator keys)
13:02:40 <andrewsw> yes, I like that idea.
13:02:52 <SebastianHeld> did I mentioned it's rev 0.001 ;)
13:03:12 <andrewsw> oh totally! I'm not trying to down play that it's great!
13:03:44 <SebastianHeld> bye bye my new input dialog -- now I can just use the one with option buttons
13:03:52 <SebastianHeld> what a pitty
13:04:52 <andrewsw> I would like to see maybe three or four options: semi-colon delimited, comma-delimited, with or without quotes (I personalyl think quotes are essential) and then one for "Custom" regexs
13:05:11 <SebastianHeld> If the dialog is later on improved to show the input file along with the regexp, the sequence is again: file selection -> choose regex
13:06:07 <SebastianHeld> I'll implement these options on sunday.
13:06:39 <SebastianHeld> hey my gnc-module built from scratch now compiles cleanly WOW
13:06:51 <andrewsw> Showing the first couple of lines of the file and how they will map would be *awesome* but for a first crack at it, I'd just put the format selection, along with the info about how the file should look (id;company;name...)
13:06:57 <SebastianHeld> now I need to put some intelligence in...
13:07:11 <andrewsw> before the file selection... then it would be really smooth for first time users.
13:07:31 <andrewsw> There is something unnerving about telling it which file to use when I don't know how that file should look...
13:07:34 <SebastianHeld> got it. Let's make it this way
13:08:15 <SebastianHeld> may be I separate the gui even more from the importer. Would be great for scripting
13:08:36 <SebastianHeld> what needs to be done to be able to call a c-function from guile?
13:09:22 <andrewsw> the c-function needs to be included in some_file.i, it will be renamed from some_function to some-function
13:09:25 <SebastianHeld> by the way, what about the python bindings?
13:09:32 <andrewsw> not a clue on the python
13:10:32 <SebastianHeld> so the c-function is in a completely separate file?
13:10:43 <SebastianHeld> only one function per .i-file
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13:11:13 <SebastianHeld> oh, stop. included - I get the clue
13:11:35 <andrewsw> yes. look at report/report-system/report-system.i
13:11:46 <SebastianHeld> thanks for your feedback.
13:11:56 <andrewsw> and then look at what shows in the swig-report-system.c generated file.
13:12:00 <andrewsw> you're welcome.
13:13:02 <andrewsw> with those couple of changes, I think it would be fine to commit to trunk for the next release.
13:13:08 <andrewsw> but I'm pretty far down the totem pole...
13:14:53 <SebastianHeld> At least it does for me what it should. But seeing it commit is not bad either. Need to leave now; my son is waiting...
13:15:02 <andrewsw> cheers
13:15:05 <SebastianHeld> bye
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14:42:21 <andrewsw> anyone else getting "There was an error parsing the file /..."
14:42:33 <andrewsw> on files that worked just days ago? (this is in trunk)
14:43:30 <andrewsw> lots of:
14:43:38 <andrewsw> * 11:42:04 CRIT <gnc.backend.file.sixtp> Tag <gnc:GncVendor> not allowed in current context.
14:43:58 <andrewsw> preceded by a couple like this:
14:44:07 <andrewsw> * 11:42:03 CRIT <gnc.io> [gnc_counter_end_handler()] Unknown type: gnc:GncVendor
14:47:06 <andrewsw> trying a clean buil;d
14:52:40 <andrewsw> nevermind, clean trunk builds.
14:52:47 <andrewsw> and opens files fine.
14:54:28 <andrewsw> interesting though that it wouldn't open recent files, but files from some testing a year ago opened just fine....
14:54:45 <andrewsw> anyway, I assume it's related to some borked build situation.
15:18:14 <andrewsw> wow... valgrind slows it down just a touch...
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15:38:56 <andrewsw> yay! new custom report dialog comitted
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15:58:18 <DiMa> Hallo
16:03:10 <goodger> hello
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17:42:26 <ryans> Is income the only account type that interprets a negative number as a credit?
17:43:10 <ryans> E.g., if I were to subtract from any other kind of asset, would they all be considered debits?
17:46:25 <jsled> "debit" and "credit" can be very counter-intuitive in double-entry.
17:46:44 <jsled> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-entry_accounting#Examples_of_debits_and_credits
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17:54:54 <ryans> jsled: Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that transferring from "assets:checking account" to "assets:checking account:some accruing savings pot" would be a double-negative.
17:55:14 <jsled> that will work correctly.
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17:57:28 <David> Hello useful people
17:59:19 <David> Anyone have any experience with using Bank of America other than Cali with GNUcash 2.2.6?
18:00:22 <ryans> jsled: Thanks :)
18:01:28 <David> im having difficulty getting the ofx file to get my accounts, it comes up with a (generic ) error 2000
18:02:36 <David> i've tried following some instructions that i think were old that said to change the appid to Money and appver to 1700
18:03:21 <David> but i get the same error code
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18:08:32 <warlord> David: you might want to try asking on the gnucash-user mailing list, or on the AqBanking list.
18:09:31 <David> meh, i feared that answer :| i dislike mailing lists
18:10:02 <warlord> I'm sure they dislike you, too.. But they are often a wider net for getting questions answered.
18:12:25 <David> heh, too true, well, thank you for your time then
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18:17:26 <andrewsw> @tell SebastianHeld any reason not to merge your work into the current csv importer? it has all the ui bits done...
18:17:26 <gncbot> andrewsw: The operation succeeded.
18:19:14 <andrewsw> warlord, et al: I know you use trunk for everyday work. I"m thinking of doing that as well. Any concerns?
18:19:40 <warlord> Not really..
18:19:45 <warlord> (and yes, I do)
18:19:49 <andrewsw> specifically, are we still backwards compatible? (I think we are)
18:20:02 <andrewsw> are you using dbi backend?
18:20:02 <warlord> I think so.
18:20:04 <warlord> No.
18:20:09 <warlord> Stil using xml.
18:20:13 <warlord> haven't tried dbi yet.
18:20:19 <warlord> (sorry, BIAB...)
18:20:25 <andrewsw> no prob, thanks
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18:42:50 <andrewsw> hmmm... trunk saved file spits out some xml that looks like SchedX stuff when opened in 2.2.mumble
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19:57:57 <ryans> Hm, where should the cash from refunds (say, for an RMA'ed mobo) go? Should I have an income:misc or something?
20:00:59 <ryans> Or from the Expenses:Hardware fund?
20:01:09 <ryans> I guess the latter, since technically they refunded the expense
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23:32:49 <goodger> ryans: income/purchase returns is traditional
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