2009-03-13 GnuCash IRC logs
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04:00:37 <jim> Hi all, have a quick question. In the "Accounts Page", how do I get a Total column that does not include future dated transactions? I tried using the "Total (Period)" column and setting the period from 1970 to "Today" but it still seems to include future dated transactions - perhaps this is a bug? Thanks
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04:33:56 <Teka> Hi
04:34:30 <Teka> i can not see my accounts when I open Gnucash
04:35:05 <Teka> Windows says there are 87 so they exist on the hard drive
04:35:13 <cast|lir> and if you go file open, can you find them that way?
04:36:33 <Teka> I was experimenting with Preferences in the Edit menu but think I have now reset to defult. I have updated to the latest version but still problem
04:42:34 <Teka> when I select file open the latest revision (g) is listed showing many files ending in log and and xac. selecting "rev g" at the top of list brings up only one of the placholder accounts
04:43:06 <jim> File->New->New Accounts Page ?
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04:44:49 <Teka> Jim Thanks that has brought up all the accounts. So what had i done "wrong"?
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05:06:56 <jim> Yep done that one before - took me some googling to work it out. You just closed it with the "Close" button I suspects
05:13:19 <Teka> jim OK anyway its working now - many thanks
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05:24:09 <zathras_laptop> when i try and use the api via a small test app i keep getting "QSF Backend Version 0.2 not usable" - what am i doing wrong?
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07:02:20 <Gagis> Greetings. Does gnucash or some sister program have a solution for billing with a good manual?
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14:54:56 <zathras_laptop> are there any good sample c apps that examine a gnucash file?
14:55:51 <jsled> "examine" ?
14:56:00 <jsled> Some of the tests might qualify.
14:58:22 <jsled> src/engine/test/ has some basic engine api stuff
14:58:38 <jsled> src/backend/file/test/test-load-xml2.c has some "initialize a QOF session and load a file" stuff.
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15:04:13 <warlord2> zathras_laptop: I know of none.
15:04:47 <zathras_laptop> jsled, thanks
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15:05:28 <zathras_laptop> when i try and write a test app i get an error aboutthe backend not being usable...qsf version 0.2 or some such - any ideas why?
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15:05:55 <warlord> @op
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15:06:11 <warlord> Well, the QSF backend shouldn't be usable. it's broken.
15:07:19 <zathras_laptop> ah, so i can't open file: urls?
15:07:38 <warlord> Oh, you can most certainly open file URLs.. but not with the QSF backend.
15:07:44 <warlord> You want the file (xml) backend.
15:07:52 <zathras_laptop> hmm, ok, that makes sense
15:08:01 <warlord> How are you loading the backends?
15:08:03 <zathras_laptop> how come i ended up with the qsf module then?
15:08:26 <zathras_laptop> i'm not explicitly loading them - just using qof_session_begin()
15:09:03 <warlord> Oh, well that's why it's not working -- you need to load the backend.
15:11:54 <zathras_laptop> ah, so you have to explicitly load the backends? that makes some sense i guess
15:12:41 <warlord> Yes.. from the docs:
15:12:53 <warlord> the default QOF ones. The backends specified here are
15:12:53 <warlord> loaded only by applications that do not have their own. */
15:12:53 <warlord> struct backend_providers
15:13:04 <warlord> Er, missed the first line:
15:13:06 <warlord> /** Programs that use their own backends also need to call
15:14:03 <warlord> The gnc-engine should do this
15:14:26 <warlord> Do you call gnc_engine_init?
15:16:27 <zathras_laptop> it was hard finding details on what i needed to call and not call...
15:16:47 <zathras_laptop> i'm trying to avoid guile, so i was hoping to simply use the qof stuff...
15:16:57 <zathras_laptop> now i know i can make some progress
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15:21:08 <warlord> What exactly are you trying to do?
15:25:41 <zathras_laptop> i'm mainly trying to play with the api to try a few ideas out
15:26:10 <zathras_laptop> but i have a lot of historic data i'd like to import...and the format it's stored in is messy :-(
15:26:10 <warlord> i see.
15:26:20 <warlord> define "messy"?
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15:26:34 <zathras_laptop> custom db...
15:27:01 <zathras_laptop> and some it around 7 years old
15:27:14 <zathras_laptop> it's a work in progress ;-)
15:29:25 <warlord> i see
15:30:06 <zathras_laptop> thanks for answering my questions - sorry to be a pain...
15:33:01 <warlord> You're welcome.
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18:27:04 <khorne> Hmmm. I was expecting to see "Tools>HBCI Setup... " in GnuCash to set up the online banking, but I don't see it. I've tried launching GnuCash with --enable-hbci and --enable-ofx, but GnuCash doesn't bring up a window when I do. Any ideas on this?
18:45:51 <zathras_laptop> when i installed i ended up with backend-xml and backend-xml-utils in different dirs - is this usual?
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21:46:48 <warlord> khorne: You're on Windows?
21:47:07 <warlord> zathras_laptop: Yes. the -utils is a utility shared library. the former is a loadable module.
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21:54:17 <khorne> Warloard: Yes, I'm on windows. I installed 2.2.9 directly over 2.2.3, I wonder if that may be why I do not see any entries under Tool for online banking.
22:03:26 <warlord> Try under Actions ?
22:04:24 <khorne> Was AFK, just a sec...
22:05:12 <warlord> There should be "Tools -> Online Banking Setup" and also "Actions -> Online actions -> ..."
22:05:25 <khorne> That has scheduled transactions, reset warnings, rename page
22:05:28 <khorne> No
22:05:43 <khorne> No Online options under any menu
22:06:10 <khorne> Except on the preferences dialog
22:07:26 <warlord> Ummmm.....
22:07:40 <warlord> Try uninstalling all versions of gnucash and then re=installing 2.2.9?
22:08:28 <khorne> I was thinking that would probably be the way to go. It sounds like the 2.2.9 install was munged from 2.2.3 already being installed.
22:08:42 <khorne> I'll try it and let you know. Thanks!
22:08:45 <warlord> that would be my first guess
22:27:18 <khorne> Had to reinstall twice, the second time after deleting the <username>/.gnucash directory, and now Online options are showing in the menu. Thanks Warlord!
22:29:50 <warlord> cool.. glad it's working now
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22:55:22 <fbond> Hi, so say I wanted to use GnuCash to help in creating a business plan.
22:55:43 <fbond> I need pro forma income statements, cash flow, and balance sheets.
22:55:49 <fbond> That's easy enough.
22:56:01 <fbond> But I also need a nice break down of start up costs.
22:56:32 <fbond> I guess that's basically an income statement for the first month, right?
22:56:54 <fbond> Or do I just need to spreadsheet that part...
23:04:25 <fbond> Ack, I guess I just need to spreadsheet the whole thing if I want to be picky about how things look.
23:04:49 <fbond> Well, IS, CF, and BS will be fine.
23:04:53 <fbond> Nevermind.
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