2009-02-26 GnuCash IRC logs
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01:03:48 <elnino> hi... I was wondering where the data files are stored on a windows machine so I can encrypt them
01:04:43 <elnino> I ddint' see any settings in gnucash to change the location.. Because I also want to share the data files with another computer...
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01:58:48 <elnino> ok, I found the data files, what is the difference between .log and .xac and the file without a suffix?
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07:33:50 <SmokeyD> hey everyone. Is there a way to make gnucash round amounts instead of cutting amounts off after the second decimal?
07:34:03 <SmokeyD> So that 1.425 becomes 1.43 instead of 1.42
07:34:54 <SmokeyD> this is how most businesses in the Netherlands seem to calculate so I am often off by 1 ct between the invoices as I enter them in gnucash and as I get them from my suppliers
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08:24:34 <warlord> SmokeyD: it does round.. it just rounds 5 the wrong way.
08:24:57 <SmokeyD> warlord: is that a confirmed bug?
08:25:32 <warlord> "confirmed"? Not that I know of.
08:25:39 <warlord> But I'm pretty sure it's in bugzilla.
08:26:19 <SmokeyD> warlord: what I mean is, does a bug report exist and does some developper already know it is a bug and is that at least an idea whether to solve it or not?
08:26:46 <warlord> The former, I
08:26:48 <warlord> 'm prety sure
08:26:51 <SmokeyD> ok
08:26:57 <warlord> The latter, AFAIK nobody is working on it.
08:27:35 <SmokeyD> ok, but submitting a bugreport wouldn't be of use right?
08:35:11 <warlord> probably not, no.
08:35:20 <warlord> Not unless you have a patch to submit along with it.
09:10:39 <elnino> hello. I'm running gnucash on a windows machine, what is the difference between .log and .xac and the file without a suffix?
09:24:53 <warlord> elnino: see the FAQ
09:26:29 <warlord> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_What_are_all_these_.xac_and_.log_files_filling_up_my_directory.3F
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09:43:33 <elnino> Thank you warlord, I did a search on the wiki for xac and didn't get anything.... is there a trick?
09:43:49 <elnino> Also wanted to know if there was a way to move the location of these files...
09:44:14 <warlord> Sure, File -> Save As and change the location of your datafile. The .xac and .log files will follow.
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09:53:00 <elnino> oh., sure! =) I thought maybe it would be a setting. =) The online banking thing.. thats' so I can connect to banks and download directly? Somewhere in the wiki, it said someting about encrypt some .conf file.. Would would that be in windows?
09:54:01 <warlord> "encrypt some .conf files"? Where does it say that?
09:54:10 <warlord> (I know nothing about windows so can't help you there)
09:55:45 <elnino> oh.. dear.. I dont' remember where I saw it. It was talking about how gnucash leaves it up tot the user to encrypt files. and that the .conf file saves the username/password and account information.
09:56:48 <elnino> here is one place: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_.22Can_you_please_add_a_password_feature.3F.22 but it doesn't talk about the .conf file... I"m looking.
09:57:16 <elnino> opp, is is there: it says: "Note that if you use the online banking features within GnuCash, you should be aware that your account numbers and user IDs are stored in plain text in ~/.banking/settings.conf. You should encrypt this file in addition to your gnucash data file."
09:57:31 <elnino> so how would.banking/settings.conf translate to windows?
09:57:59 <warlord> No idea. That's an AqBanking file, not a GnuCash file.
09:58:08 <warlord> We don't touch that file.
09:58:19 <elnino> doyou encrypt yours?
09:59:06 <elnino> and what is your back end. I take it isn't a relational database by the number of files I see...
09:59:22 <elnino> Sorry about all these questions, i'm a new user, and just started yesterday. It's really slick!!
10:03:20 <warlord> I dont use AqBanking, so I'm not worried about that.
10:03:41 <warlord> I do encrypt my GnuCash data files, because they live in an encrypted directory (I use EncFS)
10:03:47 <warlord> Datafile is XML.
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13:13:59 <slight> hi. just trying to get my head around gnucash at the moment. i googled for this and found a 'no' from early 2008 but i was wondering if there was any change. is there any way to make an existing entry (for example from a qif import) into a processed payment? thanks :)
13:14:19 <warlord> no
13:14:25 <slight> to the point :)
13:14:27 <slight> thanks
13:14:40 <warlord> process the payment first..
13:14:48 <warlord> then load the qif and it should be seen as a dup.
13:15:13 <slight> ah ok, thanks
13:15:17 <slight> great app by the way
13:15:24 <warlord> thx
13:15:44 <slight> :)
13:16:41 <slight> oh while i'm here... i don't suppose you know if any crm apps integrate with gnucash?
13:17:13 <warlord> i doubt it.. unless they output qif or ofx.
13:18:06 <slight> ok thought so, but worth checking
13:18:13 <slight> cheers o/
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15:27:11 <elnino> warlord, you day you dn't use aqbanking.. do you use something else to download files? Some of the institutions that I work with onlydownload directly into msmoney or quicken (they don't let me download a gif/ofx/qfx file)
15:27:17 <elnino> s/day/say
15:27:22 <elnino> s/dn
15:27:31 <elnino> s/dn't/don't
15:28:08 <jsled> s/gif/qif/
15:28:10 <jsled> :)
15:28:25 <elnino> thanks jsled. I 'm terrible at typing fast.
15:29:46 <elnino> ... so I'm hoping that if I use aqbanking, I can get the files from the institutions. Sure be nice if they had an english website. Anyone know how secure it is?
15:32:39 <jsled> If you can get it setup and connected, it should be well secure.
15:33:00 <warlord> elnino: nope, i dont use any online banking features from gnucash.
15:33:04 <jsled> elnino: check the wiki for ofx direct connect configuration details per institution.
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15:34:40 <elnino> yep. I'm reading it now. What type of connection does it use? how do I know it's secure? =) I guess I don't really konw the background of aqbanking, is it used widely? any particular reason it was choosen over other alternatives?
15:35:26 <jsled> ssl. you don't. no. it's the only option.
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15:36:13 <elnino> alrighty =)
15:37:46 <warlord> heh
15:38:13 <jsled> Maybe more politic responses: you can be assured it's secure because it's Open Source. It's used mostly by GnuCash, but I think there's at least one other project that uses it too.
15:38:59 <jsled> And, really, "what alternatives?" It's not like there's a whole bunch of libraries implementing OFX and the other formats it handles. I'm not even sure of one other.
15:41:49 <warlord> I know of no other open-source OFX-DC impl.
15:42:02 <elnino> is gnucash related to aqbanking?
15:42:52 <jsled> second cousins, maybe?
15:42:59 <elnino> =)
15:43:12 <jsled> I think there's been a bit of developer overlap, mostly historically.
15:43:39 <jsled> But it wasn't factored out of gnucash, or wholly formed from this project, per se.
15:45:38 <elnino> I *am* a bit curious as to why warlord doesn't use it perhaps too personal, don't know. I'm assuming you are a developer?
15:45:49 <elnino> it=aqbanking
15:46:21 <jsled> banks don't offer it? More trouble than its worth to use?
15:46:48 <warlord> I dont see the value personally.
15:47:24 <elnino> hmm. ok.
15:47:47 <elnino> I'm just new at gnucash/aqbanking, trying to understand it's programmers, community and such to see if I can trust my moneys with them. Account numbers/passwords and such all in one place kinda freaks me out. hope you don't take it personally.
15:48:00 <elnino> I appreciate your answers.
15:51:29 <warlord> it's open source. you dont have to trust me -- you can look at the code and see what it's doing.
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17:00:23 <warlord> anyways, gotta run. later..
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17:23:56 <wtanx> Hello. I need some help about on line quotation:
17:23:56 <wtanx> I obtain quotation for
17:23:56 <wtanx> http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ENEL.MI
17:23:56 <wtanx> but I obtain nothing for
17:23:56 <wtanx> http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IE0030618114.MI
17:23:56 <wtanx> Can anyone help me?
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