2009-02-20 GnuCash IRC logs
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01:40:37 <kcavin> thanks for a great piece of software!
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02:48:39 <cast|lir> it is pretty sweet innit
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09:44:03 <djMax> my weekly question - anybody out there with a working windows build?
09:48:36 <djMax> it appears that QIF import checks for dupes even among the transactions in the QIF, is that right?
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11:41:27 <warlord> djMax: it should, yes.
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13:17:59 <djMax> you had mentioned that GnuCash doesn't keep the SAX of the XML file around. Does it keep KVP slots even if it doesn't know what they are?
13:18:59 <warlord> yes
13:19:15 <djMax> (thinking I could store "account tags" that way)
13:22:53 <warlord> indeed
13:23:03 <warlord> great place to put them.
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14:26:09 <Tim_Abell> gnc-sx-get-sxes-referencing-account gives me (#<swig-pointer PriceList * a4472c0>), which apparently is something like a GList*, how do i get at the data from it in guile?
14:26:18 <Tim_Abell> hello again :)
14:26:47 <jsled> That's strange. It shouldn't be a PriceList* at all.
14:26:48 <Tim_Abell> i'm managed to acquire another 10 mins out of my life for my pet project
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14:26:53 <Tim_Abell> oh
14:26:54 <Tim_Abell> :)
14:26:59 <Tim_Abell> i must've wrapped it wrong
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14:29:51 <Tim_Abell> according to http://svn.gnucash.org/docs/HEAD/group__SchedXaction.html#gfc0bff1238021210b3979026296f1a63 it returns a GList*
14:30:05 <Tim_Abell> maybe swig guessed wrong
14:31:12 <Tim_Abell> i did notice "XXX currently, this is crufty, it should be modified to use entities a bit more whole-heartedly than it does. " in http://svn.gnucash.org/docs/HEAD/SX-book_8h.html
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14:32:01 <Tim_Abell> perhaps i should use SchedXactions * gnc_book_get_schedxactions (QofBook *book) instead
14:32:19 <jsled> You just want the overall SX list?
14:32:51 <Tim_Abell> i'm looking to figure out what effect the scheduled transactions will have on an account balance in the future
14:32:52 <jsled> gnc-sx-get-sxes-referencing-account does just that: it gets only the SXes which have a template transaction referencing a particular account.
14:33:02 <jsled> Ah, then you probably do want that, then.
14:33:13 <Tim_Abell> i thought so :)
14:39:27 <Tim_Abell> gotta run. till next time...
14:39:30 <Tim_Abell> thanx
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14:49:51 <djMax> anybody poked around MS Money's file formats?
14:50:13 <djMax> I'm trying to get a list of all investment names and corresponding symbols to get them into GnuCash, but don't see a report to do it
14:53:35 <warlord> never used it
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15:55:36 <andrewsw> I'm beginning to think that the solution to the report-guid problem is to be found outside of gnucash itself.
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15:59:29 <warlord> andrewsw: why do you think that?
15:59:47 <andrewsw> I'm beating my head against the wall trying to save a report that hasn't been run...
16:01:23 <warlord> Why?
16:01:52 <andrewsw> well, that seems to be the right solution to re-saving old style reports with a report-guid version.
16:02:02 <andrewsw> I can catch those reports as they're loaded on startup.
16:02:14 <andrewsw> the trick is to then resave them into a new save-dreports file
16:02:34 <andrewsw> *that's* tricky because the report savinf relies on a report being *run* first
16:02:39 <andrewsw> saving, that is
16:02:39 <warlord> Umm... Can you cause the report to run, save it, and then close it?
16:02:56 <andrewsw> THat's what I'm working on right now, but it sure feels hackish
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16:04:05 <warlord> Maybe, but I think it's the right solution.
16:05:09 <andrewsw> it all hearkens back to the fact that we have to run a report to do anything to it. It really should be the other way: running a report pops the option dialog first, before the report is run. Saving could be allowed at that point.
16:07:36 <warlord> Well, the report needs to be instantiated.. But you're right that "running" the report should be different than "instantiated"
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16:30:45 <andrewsw> really all I need to be able to do is get the options, maybe I can just extract that from the template somehow.
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16:37:55 <andrewsw> aha! yes! gnc:report-template-new-options
16:41:42 <warlord> :)
16:43:42 <andrewsw> do we have working multi-column report save in trunk?
16:44:41 <warlord> Nope.
16:45:03 <warlord> (and in fact we MIGHT want to make sure the UI doesn't let you try to save a multi-column report)
16:50:31 <andrewsw> yeah. that whole report is sort of a kludge I think anyway. maybe we should just kill it altogether?
16:50:40 <andrewsw> no offense to whoever wrote it
16:52:04 <andrewsw> yes! successfully saved reports without running!
16:52:04 <warlord> It's useful.. people use it..
16:52:08 <warlord> YAY!!!
17:01:37 <andrewsw> hmmm... now if only it would *stop* saving...
17:04:51 <warlord> ???
17:05:41 <andrewsw> saved-reports-2.4 keeps growing and growing... heh
17:08:30 <warlord> OOPS!
17:08:41 <warlord> recursion without the tail? ;)
17:09:04 <andrewsw> heh. no, it just isn't recognizing the new file and keeps loading from old file and adding on to the new
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17:12:53 <warlord> Oh. OOPS!
17:22:02 <andrewsw> I have made no provision for those who may have hand-hacked saved-reports-2.0 to include report-guid.
17:22:25 <andrewsw> Those reports will be untouched and will get shadowed out when the user saves another report.
17:22:43 <andrewsw> But I'm assuming those are devs or others in a position to handle it.
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17:27:32 <warlord> What do you mean "shadowed out"?
17:28:37 <andrewsw> the most recent saved-reports file is the only one that is read at startup. So saving a new report will write it to a new file, saved-reports-2.4. any untransferred reports will then be "lost" by virtue of being in the old file
17:29:10 <andrewsw> at least that's how I read the code for reading in config files
17:29:31 <warlord> Ah... Well, why not copy those too?
17:31:23 <warlord> Hey, while you're looking at this code... HOw hard do you think it would be to provide a "remove remote" operation?
17:31:50 <andrewsw> the only way I've found is to use the same code that currently warns of old style saved reports. If we hit one, we save it into the new format into the new file. If someone has hand-hacked their saved reports file to include report-guid's to make the warning
17:32:09 <andrewsw> go away, then those saved reports won't trigger the code to translate the report. follow?
17:32:17 <andrewsw> what's "remove remote"
17:32:22 <andrewsw> remove report?
17:32:28 <warlord> Sorry, yeah, "remove report"
17:32:44 <warlord> Ah, I get it.. And all the 2.2 saved reports will have this issue?
17:33:34 <andrewsw> yes. any 2.2 saved report that is unhacked will transfer over invisibly (minus a one-time dialog to inform the user). Hacked reports will not transfer.
17:37:05 <andrewsw> I think it's an issue that will only affect devs or those handful of users who run trunk who may have gotten tired of the warning.
17:37:13 <andrewsw> IOW, a pretty select, small group of people.
17:38:02 <andrewsw> remove report is really completely separate in the current system.
17:38:47 <warlord> Okay.
17:38:54 <andrewsw> the only interaction with that file is once at startup when the whole thing is slurped into memory and then when we save a report, all we do is append the s-expressions onto the end of the file. we don't relate to it in any other way.
17:40:55 <andrewsw> to remove a report would require manually massaging the file to delete, or comment out, old reports. And then there is the issue of how to update the menus at the time versus a restart to make the changes to the menu (same problem we currently have with saved reports and the menu).
17:42:02 <andrewsw> hmm... if we had a way to differentiate saved reports from standard ones at run-time, then yes, I think we could do it. Then we'd just iterate through all the "saved" reports rewriting the whole file after a delete operation/.
17:42:29 <andrewsw> it's doable, the more I think about it.
17:44:10 <warlord> :-D
17:51:39 <andrewsw> yeah, not today, though...
17:55:20 <warlord> awwwwww
17:56:03 <andrewsw> what I did was enough for now. And it needs some clean up, as I did a lot of cut-n-paste coding.
17:56:13 <andrewsw> I really wanted to get this done, though, it's been hanging over me.
17:56:22 <andrewsw> I didn't want 2.4 going out with that ugly dialog...
17:56:53 <warlord> :)
17:56:55 <warlord> ok.
17:56:59 <warlord> thank you
17:57:28 <andrewsw> is anyone making any noise about 2.4 in terms of time frame?
17:57:41 <warlord> not yet
17:58:03 <andrewsw> I'll give some more thought to report deletion and see if I can come up with a solution
17:58:18 <warlord> thanks!!!
18:07:10 * harlan waves at warlord
18:07:20 <warlord> hi harlan
18:11:13 <andrewsw> cya
18:12:24 <warlord> later, andrewsw
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20:29:08 <johngalt> hey
20:30:24 <johngalt> anyone have any advice on setting up online banking with a national city credit card??
20:31:16 <johngalt> when i first setup online banking it correctly finds my credit card (along with my national city checking accound) but when i go to "get transactions" it comes back with "account not found"
20:32:04 <johngalt> i checked through the quicken ofx log to see if i could find anything different but gnucash seems to be setup exactly the same
20:32:21 <johngalt> any help would be appreciated...
20:33:25 <johngalt> i should mention that "get transactions" works perfectly with my checking account...just the credit card is causing problems
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