2009-02-06 GnuCash IRC logs
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12:54:39 <joslwah> warlord, I'm using trunk and my reports are just fine.
12:54:48 <warlord> Really?
12:54:52 <joslwah> Yep.
12:55:11 <warlord> Huh!
12:55:16 <warlord> What OS/Distro?
12:55:23 <joslwah> Linux/Gentoo.
12:55:34 <warlord> Hmm.. I wonder if it's specific to F10?
12:55:41 <warlord> What version of trunk?
12:56:16 <joslwah> Head. Currently 17868.
12:56:28 <joslwah> I track trunk head.
12:59:03 <warlord> Huh..
12:59:05 <joslwah> I've just rebuilt and reinstalled. Still looking fine.
13:00:24 <warlord> http://imagebin.ca/view/nczB44LH.html
13:01:54 <joslwah> Balance sheet is absolutely fine for me.
13:02:05 <warlord> Okay, let me rebuild and retest.
13:02:59 <warlord> I'm running form r17816
13:03:08 <warlord> So maybe something has been fixed since then.
13:04:18 <joslwah> I've never messed around with fonts etc. Dunno if there is something there.
13:06:52 <warlord> I haven't either, as far as I know.
13:07:04 <warlord> This was working fine on F7, failed when I rebuilt on F10.
13:07:15 <warlord> I suppose I could try 2.2 and see how that works?
13:08:05 <goodger> warlord: your screenshot implies an ability to scroll down
13:09:33 <warlord> goodger: yes.... and indeed I scroll down and get various lines of data with blank lines in between.
13:09:51 <joslwah> F7/F10, what do you mean by those?
13:10:08 <warlord> Fedora 7, Fedora 10
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13:46:46 <warlord> Nope.. Updating to current version doesn't help me. :(
13:48:06 <joslwah> So, your problem is F10
13:48:29 <joslwah> I'm guessing you can't try head on F7 still?
13:53:04 <warlord> not easily, no.
13:53:24 <warlord> I'll have to try to work on that at some point, probably in a VM.
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14:21:08 <talso> http://sixshot.dnsalias.net/pe_template.jpg
14:21:20 <talso> i don't see any entries for this quote anymore
14:21:34 <talso> is it hiding somewhere?
14:46:38 <warlord> talso: maybe your quote source changed their website so F::Q cant read it anymore?
14:46:59 <warlord> Oh, wait... why is it in the TEMPLATE namespace?!?!?
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15:08:14 <talso> i was having trouble getting quotes
15:08:19 <talso> and rather than using FUND
15:08:33 <talso> i think i created a security with the template
15:08:36 <talso> field
15:08:47 <talso> but they've been removed
15:10:35 <talso> now this could have been back with like 2.2.6 or something
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15:11:03 <talso> and i've been trying to grep it out of my transactions but i don't see any trace of it
15:11:14 <warlord> Don't use "template" -- it shouldnt even be visible in the interface (and it's a bug that it is)
15:11:42 <talso> i'm not anymore
15:12:15 <warlord> okay...
15:12:31 <warlord> try using gnc-fq-dump to test your quote source?
15:20:09 <talso> sec, work
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15:49:02 <andrewsw> warlord: that's a nice clean balance sheet there!
15:50:06 <warlord> Isn't it??
15:50:13 <warlord> Makes it hard to actually SEE my data, tho.
15:50:24 <andrewsw> the accountant bill will be much lower ;-P
15:50:38 <warlord> Depends if they get paid by the report-inch..
15:50:43 <andrewsw> heh
15:51:07 <andrewsw> I was afraid it was a commit i had made back in Dec, but I'm pretty confident that it's not.
15:54:22 <warlord> most most strange is that joslwah doesn't see it on gentoo.
15:55:12 <andrewsw> i'm building head right now, I"ll report back
16:00:01 <warlord> okay.
16:00:07 <warlord> What OS/Distro?
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16:06:08 <andrewsw> debian sid
16:09:02 <warlord> Ah. Hmm.
16:09:02 <andrewsw> grr... I've got some errors, it might be a while
16:09:09 <warlord> Ooops!
16:09:28 <andrewsw> looks like automake picked up an emacs temp file??
16:10:46 <warlord> WEIRD
16:11:22 <andrewsw> I don't know but it's bombing on a file with # at the front of it. claims there is no rule to build it... whatever, I'm starting over clean
16:11:38 <warlord> okay
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16:14:39 <djMax> does GNUCash have some ability to handle option contracts (e.g. calls and puts)?
16:15:17 <warlord> not directly. you could try to track them as a normal stock.
16:15:46 <djMax> ok. The problem is they relate to each other in some ways. i.e. an option on a stock I own has an impact of the value of the stock
16:15:58 <djMax> Do stock accounts allow subaccounts? That would help a bit I suppose
16:16:32 <warlord> I'm pretty sure it does.
16:17:21 <djMax> ok, thanks. Just getting started with GnuCash after about 10 years of MSMoney pain. So very excited about the possibilities. One other q at the moment....
16:17:49 <djMax> When I need to type an account, if I hit a key it pops up a little box that seems like it would "zoom" to that account. But I can only type 1 char, and it pauses for a bit.
16:18:10 <djMax> not sure if this is a bug or me misunderstanding what I'm supposed to do there.
16:19:20 <djMax> and boy oh boy would it be nice to have a "Match" accelerator on the QIF import. Sooner or later guess I have to dig into the code.
16:22:25 <andrewsw> warlord: balance sheet looks fine... sorry.
16:22:29 <djMax> what is the DB for GnuCash? Conflicting info on the wiki
16:22:39 <warlord> Dammit.
16:22:52 <andrewsw> djMax: we use an xml file backend atm. an sqlite backend is in the works for 2.4
16:23:00 <warlord> djMax: there is no DB. 2.2 uses an XML data file.
16:23:41 <warlord> andrewsw: what version of gtkhtml?
16:23:48 <warlord> I have:
16:23:49 <warlord> gtkhtml3-3.24.3-1.fc10.i386
16:23:49 <warlord> gtkhtml3-devel-3.24.3-1.fc10.i386
16:24:16 <djMax> ok cool. Boy is that XML file going to get a workout with my accounts.
16:24:39 <andrewsw> libgtkhtml2-0 2.11.1-2 and...
16:24:48 <andrewsw> libgtkhtml3.8-15 3.12.3-3
16:25:00 <andrewsw> libgtkhtml3.8-dev 3.12.3-3
16:25:32 <andrewsw> I have no newer versions inthe pipeline.
16:25:53 <andrewsw> ignore the gtkhtml2, I'm not building against that.
16:25:58 <warlord> Yeah
16:26:13 <warlord> I wonder if it's gtkhtml
16:29:34 <andrewsw> oh wait. I can move up to libgtkhtml3.14 which looks to match upstream 3.18.3
16:29:48 <andrewsw> (don't ask me why that is because I don't know)
16:30:12 <warlord> LOL
16:30:56 <warlord> Yeah, the output I have has tons of <BR>s in there.
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16:31:11 <warlord> And lots of nbsps
16:31:46 <andrewsw> there are nbsps all over the report code, so I wouldn't necessarily look at those.
16:32:08 <andrewsw> any clue how to tell which version of libgtkhtml I'm building against? hrm.
16:32:37 <warlord> whichever -dev you have
16:33:03 <andrewsw> guess I'll remove 3.8-dev. why did they start a new package? I'm baffled.
16:33:50 <andrewsw> ew. 3.8 depends on libgnomeprintui... oh what a tangled web
16:33:53 <goodger> the requirement to run two versions simultaneously is usually the answer to that
16:33:54 <warlord> API/ABI differences, I think
16:34:13 <warlord> GnomePrint v. GtkPrint..
16:34:25 <andrewsw> don't we still depend on gnomeprint?
16:35:42 <andrewsw> hm, configure says no.
16:35:54 <warlord> no, we dont
16:36:08 <warlord> at least not directly.. depends on the version of gtk, IIRC.
16:40:44 <andrewsw> sorry warlord, still looks good running a 3.18 version of gtkhtml
16:41:26 <warlord> It's still looking like gtkhtml here. 2.2 is also showing this behavior.
16:42:09 <joslwah> warlord, For reference, I have gtkhtml 3.18.3
16:42:13 <andrewsw> well 3.18 is as far up as I'll go here.
16:43:11 <joslwah> warlord, Although, that might be 3.14, just with a higher gentoo revision number. Not quit sure. Looks like 3.14.19.1.0 (from the .so)
16:44:13 <warlord> /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.14.so.19.1.0
16:44:52 <andrewsw> /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.14.so.19.1.0
16:45:01 <warlord> Dammit... And it's working for you?
16:45:16 <djMax> so if I wanted to make it so that hitting "M" on the QIF Import duplicate matching screen picked the first match, what are my chances of getting a build that is just like 2.2.8 but with that addition?
16:45:21 <andrewsw> balance sheet looks fine. I didn't dive inmore than that
16:45:29 <djMax> (i.e. me building it myself on Windows)
16:46:37 <warlord> djMax: on WINDOWS?!? Ummm...
16:46:40 <warlord> Wlel, you can try
16:46:44 <djMax> there's my answer. :)
16:46:45 <andrewsw> djMax: I would say that is near certainty if you try hard enough.
16:47:04 <warlord> andrewsw: This is upsetting.. I wonder what's wrong with my system?
16:47:12 <djMax> (why isn't that whole UI a tree rather than a split window...)
16:47:30 <andrewsw> warlord: yeah, I sympathise.
16:47:43 <warlord> djMax: the QIF importer is old .. there's a new generic importer that's better. But the QIF code doesn't use it yet.
16:48:00 <warlord> andrewsw: Maybe I should install the gnucash RPM from fedora and see if THAT has the problem?
16:48:07 <andrewsw> yes.
16:48:10 <djMax> actually, I take back the windows part. I suppose I could do it on Linux and then just take the XML over afterwards
16:48:40 <warlord> that would work too
16:48:47 <djMax> if the QIF code doesn't, who does?
16:49:01 <andrewsw> djMax: I've not looked at the QIF code, but parts of it are in scheme, you might be able to hack your fix into the scheme directly and avoid rebuilding, but that's just a guess.
16:49:03 <warlord> OFX, HBCI, ...
16:49:09 <djMax> I mean, if I can export in some other format and get a better UI...
16:49:44 <andrewsw> warlord: this is all post F7->F10?
16:49:54 <andrewsw> that is a direct correlation to that transition?
16:50:10 <djMax> hrmph, apparently I'm pushing the limits. The register isn't redrawing as I scroll.
16:50:39 <warlord> andrewsw: yep
16:51:08 <warlord> andrewsw: it's possible that the upgrade left some things in a weird state..
16:51:18 <warlord> I'm just very hesitant to completely re-install...
16:51:19 <andrewsw> how long has F10 been out? I can't imagine this kind of problem would go unnoticed
16:51:31 <warlord> months. F11 went Alpha yesterday
16:51:41 <andrewsw> I"m with you. reinstall is the last resort.
16:51:49 <warlord> On the other hand, gnome-session is completely broken on F10.
16:52:22 <andrewsw> is there some decruft tool on fedora? maybe you're linking to something funky
16:53:33 <warlord> There are tools to find installed packages that aren't in any known repo..
16:53:45 <warlord> ... and packages that dont have any depencensies (leaves)
16:54:42 <warlord> the SX M&L Druid doesn't work for me on either 2.2 or trunk, either. :(
16:55:36 <andrewsw> dang. have you tried the rpm yet?
16:56:47 <warlord> Nope.
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18:13:44 <andrewsw> out. good luck warlord
18:13:50 <warlord> thanks andq
18:13:58 <warlord> andrewsw:
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18:38:12 <Dreams> ...
18:39:26 <Dreams> new to gnucahs (today) trying to figure out how to account for depositing multiple payments (invoice payments) in one deposit...
18:41:00 <warlord> are you trying to pay multiple invoices in one payment? or deposit multiple checks in one deposit?
18:41:24 <Dreams> deposit multiple checks in one deposit
18:42:05 <Dreams> Wanting to use for business, so i get multiple payments in a day or a week and I need to deposit them all at once in the bank, but I can't figure out how to do that in gnucash
18:42:27 <Dreams> trying to change from using QB
18:43:23 <warlord> Well, you could either make a split transaction, or you could go into a "to-be-deposited" account.
18:43:55 <Dreams> Unfortunately I know just enough accounting to get myself in trouble
18:44:21 <Dreams> I was trying to set up a undeposited funds account, but could not seem to get the flow right
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18:47:40 <Dreams> heres what I have so far:1. I entered an invoice 2. I entered a payment going to Accounts receivable and transfer account Undeposited funds
18:49:15 <warlord> so far so good.
18:51:46 <Dreams> :)
18:51:55 <Dreams> that's where I was getting stuck
18:52:23 <Dreams> I think I may have just figured it out..(just voicing things sometimes unsticks the brain)
18:53:36 <Dreams> So I think I enter a transaction into my checking account from the undeposited funds account for the total of the deposit (or maybe if I want details I can do multiple lines one for each "check" that is part of the deposit...
18:55:10 <Dreams> So the income is logged from the invoice, the payment shows the invoice paid and goes into the undeposited funds, then from the undeposited funds if transfers into the bank and a second line can transfer part of it over for merchant fee expenses.
18:55:55 <Dreams> So the undeposited funds should come out zero, with income showing and merchant fees showing in expense and the bank balansing at the end of the month
18:56:05 <Dreams> whew....
18:57:19 <Dreams> I have been searching for hours...who knew 3 lines from someone else would slove all of my problems... :)
19:03:46 <warlord> Yep!
19:03:51 <warlord> :-D
19:08:17 <Dreams> Thank you, seems to be posting everything where it should be...
19:08:27 <Dreams> Have a good evening
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21:11:01 <warlord> @op
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