2009-02-01 GnuCash IRC logs
00:21:42 <draemon> Perhaps it's overkill but it'll work, and isn't going to cause any problems, right? Or have I missed something.
00:22:19 <warlord> draemon: my answer hasn't changed in 6 hours
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00:50:19 <draemon> Perhaps it's overkill but it'll work, and isn't going to cause any problems, right? Or have I missed something.
00:50:39 <warlord> draemon: are you repeating yourself for any particular reason?
00:50:57 <draemon> oops - sorry
00:51:21 <draemon> focus was in the wrong window, and for some reason X-Chat thinks "enter" means "repeat what I said 6 hours ago"
00:51:32 <warlord> weird
00:51:55 <draemon> I'll move it to another workspace I think!
00:52:09 <warlord> ok
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01:07:32 <Tester190> I have installed gnuCash in WinXP and I am getting the message that Finenace::Quote is not installed properly. The help file refers to a *nix install ... how do I solve this problem in Windows?
01:08:38 <warlord> * SIGH *
01:08:44 <warlord> Install Active Perl
01:08:54 <warlord> Then run the installer from the Start -> All Programs -> GnuCash menu
01:10:42 <Tester190> ok, Now that I look at the GnuCash menu, I see what you are referring to. Thanks.
01:19:25 <warlord> You're welcome.
01:19:54 <Tester190> Any reason that the current version of Active Perl (5.10) would not be appropriate? The item in the GnuCash menu refers to v 5.8.
01:20:27 <warlord> What version of gnucash are you using?
01:20:40 <warlord> Versions prior to 2.2.8 dont work with 5.10.
01:20:47 <warlord> 2.2.8 should work with 5.10
01:22:48 <Tester190> 2.2.8 ...
01:24:29 <warlord> then 5.10 should work.
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02:05:23 <Tester190> Thanks to your help Warlord, I have gotten past the issue of the Get Quotes button being grayed out ... but I cannot seem to enter a currency in the Price Editor.
02:08:17 <Tester190> I click add, Select, type CURRENCY, choose CAD as the security/currency, click OK, click OK ... and nothing happens. It does not appear in the Price Editor list, or anything.
02:43:53 <Tester190> When is a reasonable time to get support here?
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09:27:14 <mwic> i want to represent a business i own in the form of securities -- 1000 "private" shares @ $1.437 each, representing its current net worth
09:27:39 <mwic> how would I add that in the Price or Security Editor -- it looks like it needs to know what Exchange it's on, and it isn't..
10:00:14 <jsled> In the security editor, create a new security for these shares; just type whatever (e.g., "Company") in the Type field.
10:07:13 <mwic> k, i got that.. but it won't let me change security/currency for the asset..
10:07:53 <mwic> oh i think i got it .. account type stock
10:20:21 <mwic> so where do I put the 1000 shares @$1.437 in the business gnucash file?
10:21:52 <mwic> i've got it balanced so the business has a net worth of zero right now..
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11:09:04 <mwic> ugh, this is confusing me..
11:10:05 <mwic> the numbers come close when i put a liability to the business on the book.. now i just want to have the business give me 1000 shares of stock instead of collecting it
11:22:09 <warlord> Just have a Stock account and "sell" the shares to you --- so it's a "negative asset"
11:27:32 <mwic> I have a stock account but i keep messing it up.. basically i formerly had a biz chk account, and a biz creditcard, and i'm trying to move them off my personal books and replace them with 1000 shares of stock..
11:28:03 <warlord> Are you trying to do this from your personal books or from the biz books?
11:28:22 <mwic> they were formerly all together in personal books, but i'm detaching them
11:28:48 <mwic> so far i've put entries in the chk and cc to zero them out, with both xfers to the Stock account..
11:29:32 <warlord> Okay, from your personal accounts create your stock account, then have a single transaction that splits your biz chk, biz cc, and the stock account..It should zeroize the chk and cc accts and balance that with your 1000 shares.
11:29:38 <mwic> my current idea is to adjust the "share price" of the second xfer so that I end up with a balance of 1000
11:29:55 <mwic> ooh, split would be better i guess..
11:30:37 <warlord> :)
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11:46:36 <mwic> okay, got that stuff now where does it go in the biz books ? ( i mean the 1000 shares -- assets & liabilities are already in ther)
11:46:54 <mwic> are shares even on the books?
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12:02:47 <warlord> I dont know -- ask your biz accountant
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12:19:42 <warlord> jsled: ping?
12:25:55 <warlord> i'm having trouble with the M&L Druid in trunk. I'm sure I'm missing something simple. I put start date of 2/1/09 for 30 years, 360 remaining. I dont click on escrow (even though I have one -- I was going to edit that later), I select my accounts, then Frequency=Monthly, starting 2/27/09, every 1 month on the last day of the month or use previous weekday.
12:26:05 <warlord> ... but then the review page is empty.
12:40:25 <joslwah> warlord, Hmmm. That was reported before, but when I did it it didn't happen.
12:40:51 <warlord> joslwah: in what version?
12:41:40 <joslwah> I _think_ it was reported against 2.2.8, and I tested against svn.
12:42:16 <joslwah> I'm just trying to find the report now.
12:43:52 <joslwah> 566974
12:48:27 <joslwah> Hmmm. Works for me.
12:50:15 <warlord> Weird.. I'm having trouble.
12:50:48 <joslwah> Yep, but it does sound very much like 566974. I wonder whether this is intermittant.
12:50:58 <joslwah> O.k. Lets check things. Did you use fixed rate?
12:51:05 <warlord> yes.
12:51:26 <joslwah> Loan account, new or old?
12:51:46 <warlord> all existing accounts
12:52:02 <joslwah> Interest rate?
12:52:06 <warlord> 5.75
12:52:27 <joslwah> Length entered in years?
12:52:51 <warlord> failed both ways
12:53:29 <joslwah> No trust account Tax account, Insurance, PMI or other expenses?
12:53:48 <warlord> nope.. left those unchecked
12:54:06 <joslwah> Changed the name?
12:54:48 <warlord> nope
12:55:03 <joslwah> And started today, repeating every 1 month, on the 1st?
12:55:08 <joslwah> What about weekends?
12:55:35 <warlord> Start Today. Repayments start 2/27/09 on the last day, previous weekday
12:56:32 <joslwah> Hmmmm. Interesting. I get it to work, but it starts on 31/01/2009 (European ordering)
12:56:57 <warlord> using trunk?
12:57:12 <joslwah> Even though I specified starting on 27/02/2009. This is svn.
12:57:36 <joslwah> I was wondering whether there was an issue with today being the 1st and a Sunday.
12:58:14 <joslwah> But surely it shouldn't schedule something for yesterday, especially since that is a Saturday.
12:58:20 <warlord> I'm using trunk r17816
12:58:43 <warlord> well, the start date and the repayment date should't really matter..
12:58:54 <joslwah> Hmmm. And it also hit 28/02/09 which is a Saturday, so something is bust there.
12:59:38 <warlord> I'm not seeing anything..
12:59:45 <warlord> What version / revision are you using?
13:00:02 <joslwah> I'm using git, so not sure how to check the immediate version.
13:00:47 <joslwah> Oh. We need to update the copyright message. It is currently listing 1997-2008.
13:00:53 <joslwah> On about.
13:02:56 <warlord> Yeah, we should fix that for 2.2.9
13:03:17 <warlord> @tell andi5 we should update the About page copyright to say 2009
13:03:17 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
13:04:46 <joslwah> I'm on 17867
13:05:20 <joslwah> It does appear there are problems. Getting various oddities.
13:06:23 <warlord> :(
13:07:35 <joslwah> I can't look at it now, but I'd add to 566974.
13:07:47 <warlord> I think I'll try it in 2.2 SVN and see if that's any better.
13:08:02 <warlord> (need to rebuild it)
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13:47:16 <warlord> eep!! test-lots fails for me in 2.2!!
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14:38:00 <joslwah> Hmmm. I'm getting "*** No rule to make target `../../src/optional/python-bindings/gnucash_core.c', needed by `gnucash.pot'. Stop."
14:38:50 <warlord> yeah, i've seen that..
14:39:09 <warlord> I just removed that file from POTFILES.in on my systen
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15:12:12 <joslwah> Well, after messing with POTFILES.in and POTFILES.skip I get no fails with make check.
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15:17:47 <warlord> joslwah: from 2.2?
15:17:52 <warlord> Anyways, gotta run
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18:13:42 <muxy> Why is it that when i import my banking data as a QIF file, the transactions get put into a "imbalance" account instead of in the correct account?
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19:08:19 <muxy> I have since located the answer....during the importing, i need to double click each transaction and assign it to a account. I was not doing this.
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21:07:35 <dewey> Hi, I am trying to get the tutorials to work on OpenSUSE 11.0/KDE3.5 can anyone help?
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21:24:05 <talso> http://svn.gnucash.org/docs/guide/
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21:41:31 <dewey> All it says is that this is an OPenSUSE bug with no workaround given. Does this mean there is none?
21:43:27 <talso> does your browser not work on the above link?
21:43:53 <dewey> Yes I have it up now
21:45:35 <dewey> But don't see a page with the OpenSusie problem, the only docs with that is in th eFAQs
21:46:06 <dewey> I suspect that there is some file pointer that is wrong/different for OpenSusie
21:47:03 <dewey> I am haveing the same trouble with Online banking - AqBak is installed, but GNUCash can't find it.
21:47:20 <talso> that page is the tutorial from what I understand
21:48:06 <dewey> Ok that I can live with, but the other help files and AqBanking are a big problem
21:48:28 <talso> the help files are all online i believe
21:48:33 <talso> which is the link i provided
21:48:42 <talso> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/AqBanking
21:48:52 <talso> this is something i have no experience with
21:50:03 <dewey> I have the complete docs in /user/share/gnome/help/gnucash but GNUCash is not finding them
21:52:13 <dewey> thi is beginning to look like a bad instal file :-(
21:52:42 <talso> using package management or source?
21:53:15 <dewey> Packman repository RPMs
21:53:44 <dewey> Could that be the answer I wonder
21:54:04 <talso> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/SuSE
21:54:12 <talso> i don't see a suse 11 build
21:55:09 <dewey> Is that list up to date?
21:55:19 <talso> that might be for recent builds though
21:55:21 <talso> i'm not sure
21:55:35 <dewey> RPM is usually pretty good at sorting out version numbers
21:57:39 <talso> *shrug*
21:57:50 <talso> maybe suse11 moved some file locations
21:58:27 <talso> i'd recommend trying to build it from source
21:58:43 <dewey> Yast does list a spocific 11.0 build, I am loading that to see if it helps
22:06:19 <dewey> No joy there - the builds are identical (probably just a link between them)
22:06:48 <dewey> Sounds like I need to try the Source build - sigh
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