2009-01-20 GnuCash IRC logs
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09:49:05 <dbreiser> I just had a message to gnucash-user@gnucash.org bounced by earthlink as an "Unrouteable address" ?!
09:49:51 <dbreiser> It was even a reply-all to a message received from the list.
10:17:30 <robtaylor> fun. Its probably just a temporary routing glitch somewhere...
10:18:15 <robtaylor> Completely unrelatedly, does anyone know the status of DBI? how likely am i to suffer eternal torment if I start using trunk and DBI?
10:38:57 <warlord> robtaylor: well, it's still "unstable"
10:38:57 <gncbot> warlord: Sent 13 hours and 7 minutes ago: <fell> the my cheque printing bug is in kpdf.
10:45:01 <warlord> dbreiser: can you pastebin the error?
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10:59:12 <dbreiser> with a slight attempt at anitspam harvesting http://pastebin.ca/1313586
11:00:00 <dbreiser> robtaylor: I haven't used the dbi version extensively, but it has gotten much better lately
11:00:26 <dbreiser> what used to take tens of minutes to save my 4 years of data now takes 3-1/2
11:00:47 <dbreiser> that might be aided by the fact that I went from 1GB memory to 5
11:00:55 <warlord> dbreiser: Wow! Um.. I just dont know what to say!
11:01:17 <warlord> That's a very weird error message.
11:02:23 <dbreiser> I did run into a glitch where the dbi save didn't get all the SX's converted properly (an expired SX got reactivated because the dbi code didn't honor a next occurrence of 'never')
11:02:51 <warlord> Did you send mail about that?
11:03:05 <dbreiser> about which?
11:03:20 <warlord> About the SX "never" issue?
11:03:21 <dbreiser> oh. the SX. no. Just happened a day ago
11:03:47 <dbreiser> I'll send to the list as soon as earthlink gets its head right
11:03:51 <warlord> You should definitely let him know.
11:04:20 <warlord> And yeah, you should contact earthlink about that failure. That's a very weird error. I suppose it could be transient, but I can't tell what error code it used or whether it will retry.
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11:07:52 <joslwah> While people are talking. I've been looking at the average balance report. Was wondering how difficult it would be to eliminate transfers between two accounts that are both selected?
11:08:09 <joslwah> I.e. so the gain/loss columns don't have the internal transfers.
11:09:01 <joslwah> I can see why it is done the way it is done from the code, but feel that internal transfers between the selected accounts shouldn't really appear.
11:09:22 <joslwah> You want to see how much is coming in and how much is going out, not how much is being moved around.
11:09:26 <robtaylor> warlord: dbreiser: thanks!
11:09:49 <warlord> joslwah: sounds like you want the Cash Flow report.
11:10:50 <robtaylor> so, while there's some activity on channel, i might repeat my q from yesterday: Is there anyone who provides contracting around gnucash, or would be interested in contracts to work on gnucash if they came up?
11:10:53 <joslwah> warlord, Naaah. I want to see the average balance over time, and how much money is coming and going over time.
11:11:09 <joslwah> Cash Flow only gives a static image.
11:11:25 <joslwah> But, Cash Flow might give me the info I need to change average balance.
11:11:30 <warlord> robtaylor: you could ask on gnucash-devel?
11:11:47 <warlord> (if you had asked me 4 years ago I would have said yes, but nowadays I just cant)
11:12:12 <robtaylor> warlord: yeah, it think i might, its always good if you can find someone who irc's first though ;)
11:12:21 <robtaylor> warlord: ah, shame
11:13:30 <robtaylor> so, are most gnucash devs hobbyists, or are there a lot of you that maintain it as part of the day-job?
11:13:46 <warlord> all hobbyists.
11:13:52 <warlord> There is nobody paid to work on it.
11:14:07 <robtaylor> wow, that sucks!
11:14:29 <warlord> it is what it is
11:16:09 <robtaylor> its almost tempting to hire somone and provide services though codethink =) Anyone intersted in a new job in, say, 6 months or so? ;)
11:16:44 <warlord> You might want to ask again in 4-5 months.
11:16:53 * robtaylor makes a note to do that
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11:18:19 <robtaylor> there's gotta be a market i reckon. I did quite a bit of googling and found quite a few requests for commercial support, but noone providing
11:20:37 <warlord> I've never really felt that there was a real market.. But I never really thought too hard about it either. At least not lately.
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11:22:30 <robtaylor> warlord: it'd probably be a pretty unstable revenue stream
11:22:30 <dbreiser> earthlink seems to be unconstipated now. gotta go
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11:27:44 <robtaylor> warlord: so, i've seen your name around gnucash a lot, you did all the business-oriented parts, right?
11:33:05 <warlord> yes
11:36:52 <warlord> heading to the office.. BIAB
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11:43:53 <gbrethen> need help compiling gnucash 2.2.8
11:44:11 <gbrethen> compile with ofx and aqbanking worked fine
11:44:34 <gbrethen> I get 2 errors in make though
11:45:20 <gbrethen> I should say, the ./configure with ofx and aqbanking worked fine!
11:45:38 <gbrethen> the errors occur during make
11:49:39 <joslwah> gbrethen, Can you pastebin them?
11:52:57 <gbrethen> i will pastebin the entire output from the make!
11:54:08 <joslwah> Erm. Just the last few lines is probably enough. Find the error. Give it 5 lines before and then to the end!
11:55:31 <gbrethen> http://pastebin.ca/1313638
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12:04:23 <joslwah> Hmmm. My guess, from a quick initial look at it, is that you're missing something from your build environment.
12:04:52 <joslwah> Do you have the guile devel stuff installed?
12:05:08 <joslwah> And what O/S and version are you running?
12:06:47 <gbrethen> openSUSE 11.1
12:07:01 <gbrethen> looks like I am missing the libguile.h
12:07:05 <joslwah> Hmmm. I don't know that one at all.
12:07:20 <joslwah> The lack of libguile.h was what suggested it to me as well.
12:07:37 <joslwah> Can you search in the package manager for guile packages?
12:13:23 <KaiForce> when attempting to download accounts for a newly created user, is there any way to see what is displayed in the requesting accounts screen? It closes before I can see the result, and my accounts are not being downloaded.
12:16:40 <gbrethen> ok, installed guile devel and is working now
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12:19:27 <joslwah> KaiForce, Download? As in from your bank?
12:19:39 <KaiForce> joslwah: correct.
12:20:00 <joslwah> Quick scheme question. There isn't anything to stop you having a let statement inside and if expression is there?
12:20:10 <joslwah> KaiForce, In that case, sorry, no clue. I've never used that!
12:20:53 <fell> KaiForce, using aqbanking/OFX or what?
12:21:17 <KaiForce> fell: that is also correct.
12:23:39 <KaiForce> this is in the aqbanking wizard. I've set up my user, and I believe all settings are correct, but when I try the "get accounts" button in the user setup, it requests my password, and the results screen closes before I can see what transpired.
12:24:51 <fell> you should have asked dbreiser one hour before. :(
12:26:02 <fell> some general hints: Console output; /tmp/gnucash.trace ...
12:26:08 <KaiForce> fell: ok, is that his area of expertise? I don't need an answer this very moment
12:26:08 <fell> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Setting_up_OFXDirectConnect_in_GnuCash_2#Enabling_the_OFX_Log
12:26:36 <KaiForce> ah, thanks for that, that may do it
12:26:47 <KaiForce> let me try it.
12:26:59 <gbrethen> ok, what am I missing now? http://pastebin.ca/1313663
12:29:03 <joslwah> I think we need more context!
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12:38:59 <joslwah> warlord, Can I ask a very quick scheme question?
12:39:11 <warlord> sure.
12:39:33 <joslwah> In common lisp if I want to do multiple commands sequentially I use progn. What's the equivalent in scheme?
12:39:59 <joslwah> begin?
12:40:19 <ElectricBill> Is there a way to reduce the font size in a PDF balance sheet report?
12:40:36 <warlord> yes, begin
12:41:08 <joslwah> Thanks.
12:41:15 <warlord> ElectricBill: unfortunately there is not a good way to adjust the report font size.
12:41:44 <ElectricBill> Keeps running off right edge. Can't get a report that is useful. Any suggestion?
12:42:20 <warlord> Export to HTML, load the HTML into Firefox and then print from there?
12:42:47 <fell> ElectricBil:do some abbreviation on your account names
12:43:13 <ElectricBill> fell, did that as much as possible already
12:43:46 <fell> and Settings->...Fontsize + Restart?
12:44:40 <ElectricBill> fell, setting?
12:44:42 <ElectricBill> settings?
12:44:59 <ElectricBill> warlord, export to html?
12:45:10 <warlord> ElectricBill: yep
12:45:13 <ElectricBill> I don't see either of these opts/
12:46:28 <fell> Edit->Preferences->Printing->Default font
12:46:40 <ElectricBill> fell, thanks
12:46:48 <ElectricBill> checking on that and export button
12:47:30 <warlord> ElectricBill: the button is labeled "Export"
12:47:41 <joslwah> warlord, Right. I've got my patch for the average balance not including (most) internal transactions. Would it be best if it were optional?
12:47:42 <ElectricBill> yeah - right under my nose.,
12:47:46 <warlord> Yeah
12:52:07 <ElectricBill> fell, there is a prefs->printing, but no prefs->settings... prefs->printing seems to be for checks (?)
12:52:07 <joslwah> Right. I'll do that an then get the patch submitted. Probably tomorrow.
12:53:31 <fell> ElectricBill, I think to remember, at least Fontsize also works on reports.
12:54:05 <fell> but don't forget to start the program again.
12:54:16 <warlord> joslwah: yeah.
12:54:31 <fell> (seems to be a windows like feature)
12:56:07 <ElectricBill> has no effect, fell. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
12:57:18 <fell> which version of GC?
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12:58:15 <ElectricBill> 2.2.4
12:58:34 <warlord> 2.2.8 is current
12:58:54 <ElectricBill> I know, but attempts to build were too laborious.
12:59:17 <ElectricBill> apt-get on my distros (debian and ubuntu) get me 2.2.4 and 2.2.6
13:00:07 <ElectricBill> Printing from html seems to be solving my last problem.
13:00:33 <ElectricBill> I have written a perl transaction dumper from mysql for some detail reports.
13:01:07 <ElectricBill> I used gnucash2mysql to get to SQL
13:01:31 <ElectricBill> It's a hodgepodge, but it'll do for now, I hope.
13:02:39 <warlord> Eh? apt-get build-dep gnucash ; tar ; ./configure --prefix=/opt/gnucash; make; sudo make install
13:05:24 <ElectricBill> I'll try again
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13:06:47 <ElectricBill> not familiar with build-dep
13:07:01 <warlord> it brings in all the build dependencies.
13:07:15 <ElectricBill> Guessing it put the src somewhere for me to untar and build from
13:07:21 <ElectricBill> ... looing around now
13:07:26 <ElectricBill> looking
13:08:12 <ElectricBill> Yeah - I had trouble with dependencies earlier.
13:12:44 <warlord> Nope, build-dep doesn't grab the source.. you still need to pull it down yourself.
13:13:00 <warlord> but it will bring in everything you need to build it.
13:14:02 <ElectricBill> I just figured that out. I have the source already. Make running for past 5 mins. So far, so good.
13:16:18 <warlord> Just note that there is a bug in 2.2.8 if you use invoices.. closing an invoice window will crash gnucash.
13:17:08 <warlord> (this has already been fixed in SVN)
13:23:08 <ElectricBill> OK. I tried invoices, but they don't mesh well with my existing system. Maybe I'll get back to it.
13:24:36 <ElectricBill> Odd - make install apparently successful, but still getting 2.2.4. Must be elsewhere in PATH.
13:24:55 <warlord> yep.
13:25:07 <warlord> try: /opt/gnucash/bin/gnucash
13:25:48 <ElectricBill> yeah
13:27:52 <ElectricBill> well, it runs, but no obvious differences to me! But thanks.
13:28:27 <warlord> Oh, I didn't think it would fix this issue.
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13:32:25 <joslwah> Right. Just testing the fix now before submitting.
13:36:16 <fell> warlord, some suggestion about http://lists.gnucash.org/logs/2009/01/2009-01-19.html#T15:10:59
13:36:49 <warlord> I'd say ASCII-7.
13:37:00 <warlord> I honestly don't know..
13:37:21 <warlord> The problem is that the scheme -> C encoding question is somewhat out of our control.
13:37:37 <fell> Until now the content is ascci-7, but a test with HUF, ... fillér showed no problems.
13:39:29 <fell> but I don't find the subunit nowhere in the GUI.
13:39:54 <warlord> correct, AFAIK the subunits aren't in the GUI anywhere.
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13:54:21 <fell> hehe, they can't be there as they are not in iso-4217-currencies.c
13:56:26 <KaiForce> Ok, tested accessing my bank (National City) via OFX. It is complaining about the application version (sending QWIN & 1200). Can those be set in the setup for OFX download somewhere?
13:58:52 <fell> Honestly, i don't know. Probably with some aqbanking tools ...
13:58:59 <KaiForce> ah, may have found the answer here: http://jheslop.com/2008/09/19/online-banking-setup-for-gnucash-under-windows-xp/
13:59:20 <gbrethen> ok, can anyone explain: Failed to dlopen() '/usr/local/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-aqbanking.so': libaqbanking.so.20: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
14:00:25 <fell> aqbanking stuff installed?
14:00:33 <gbrethen> yes
14:01:06 <gbrethen> with aqbanking3, I don't get this issue, but aqbanking3 doesn't seem to connect to the bank
14:01:48 <gbrethen> says connecting... then after a minute, the window closes. Also in the wizard, doesn't seem to get the accounts.
14:02:49 <gbrethen> if I compile gnucash against aqbanking 2.....the wizard connects and gets the accounts, but when I use gnucash to get balance, I get that error in the gnucash.trace file
14:02:49 <warlord> gbrethen: did you change out the AqB libraries after building gnucash?
14:03:50 <gbrethen> no, when I change the aqbanking libraries, I re-compile gnucash
14:04:19 <warlord> re-compile or reconfigure AND recompile?
14:04:43 <gbrethen> reconfig and recompile
14:05:47 <warlord> well, that error implies that it's still looking for a different version of the underlying aqb lib
14:10:46 <KaiForce> That link did fix my issue. Download of my account list from National City worked after I modified the DLL to use APPVER 1800.
14:15:54 <gbrethen> i noticed that the aqbanking-lang was a different version, so i upgraded to the correct version and am reconfig recompile and will try again
14:19:29 <gbrethen> no go, same thing
14:34:41 <gbrethen> ok, with aqbanking3 i get : CRIT <aqofxconnect> provider.c: 783: Error exchanging getStatements-request (-34)
14:46:54 <fell> KaiForce, is your useful link somewhere in our wiki?
14:47:14 <fell> If not, could you insert it?
14:47:39 <KaiForce> certainly - where is the wiki?
14:48:23 <KaiForce> sorry - new GnuCash user as of 2009/01/18.
14:49:17 <fell> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Setting_up_OFXDirectConnect_in_GnuCash_2 would be a good place.
14:57:47 <joslwah> warlord, I forget. After putting a bug and/or patch into bugzilla, am I supposed to reference it on the mailing list as well?
14:58:21 <gbrethen> I guess it doesn't matter what version of aqbanking i use, it just won't work with gnucash
14:59:00 <fell> joslwah: if it should be applied in time, sure.
14:59:29 <joslwah> So the e-mails from the bugzilla aren't sufficent?
15:01:36 <fell> gbrethen, what is your goal? Probably KaiForce's way would also fix your OFX issue.
15:02:18 <warlord> joslwah: no need
15:02:55 <joslwah> warlord, Great.
15:03:31 <KaiForce> should I link to that site, or re-write and credit that blog?
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15:05:36 <fell> KaiForce, short abstract
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15:36:14 <arussel> how do I get a transaction report order by date ? (that would make a ´livre journal´ in french)
15:39:50 <warlord> arussel: set that sort order in the report options.
15:41:33 <arussel> found it, thanks. Are they additional language package ?
15:41:52 <KaiForce> fell: if you have a chance, please take a look at the Wiki & give me a thumbs up/down.
15:45:21 <fell> this helped under version ...
15:45:46 <fell> and probably: from http://
15:47:11 <fell> I think, it is OK, but I am no OFX user ;-)
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15:56:56 <fell> @tell arussel You should set the environment variable e.g. LANG=fr_FR (have a look look at te documentation for detail)
15:56:56 <gncbot> fell: The operation succeeded.
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16:02:01 <KaiForce> ok, I'll add the website, I'd feel better about it that way so that guy gets credit
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16:15:17 <MatzeB> Hi, have an account here which I have reconciled a few times
16:15:38 <MatzeB> now I added some historic transactions before the first one
16:16:01 <MatzeB> but now if I want to reconsile that, it seems, the start balance I get is the one after my last reconciliation
16:16:13 <MatzeB> which is absurd for a bank statement older than the last reconciliation...
16:16:26 <MatzeB> am I doing something wrong? or is there no way to reconcile "old" transactions?
16:22:42 <joslwah> MatzeB, Have you tried changing the date on the reconciliation to the statement date?
16:22:51 <MatzeB> yes I did
16:23:05 <MatzeB> I can even select a date long before the first transaction in the account
16:23:09 <joslwah> Hmmm. I've never tried going back in time in that way.
16:23:10 <MatzeB> and it won't use 0.0 as start date
16:23:25 <MatzeB> but the amount after my last reconcilation I guess
16:23:28 <joslwah> Sorry. It was just an idea.
16:23:32 <MatzeB> s/start dat/start balance
16:23:53 <MatzeB> I'm just confused that this isn't working
16:23:57 <joslwah> Is this before the opening balance was set up?
16:24:03 <MatzeB> yes
16:24:13 <MatzeB> the opening balance is a normal transaction in my account...
16:24:26 <MatzeB> and I choose a date before the opening balance just for testing
16:24:29 <joslwah> Well then, you're going to need to reset the opening balance to the value it was on the statement, and then go from there.
16:24:50 <MatzeB> with opening balance you mean that typical first transaction you do?
16:25:23 <joslwah> Or have two opening balances (they're just transactions from Equity:Opening Balance)
16:25:43 <MatzeB> that's not my problem
16:25:48 <joslwah> Well, it depends. If you have the complete history of the account then it will start at 0, so there isn't an opening balance.
16:25:56 <MatzeB> I have all my bank statements here
16:26:05 <MatzeB> up the very first one where it's 0.0 balance
16:26:11 <MatzeB> so I should not need the opening balance anymore
16:26:17 <MatzeB> and I tried entering that into gnucash
16:26:30 <joslwah> O.k. But when you started entering data, did you have an opening balance then?
16:26:34 <MatzeB> but as I said the reconciliation doesn't start with 0.0 for some odd reason
16:26:40 <MatzeB> no
16:26:45 <MatzeB> because the account starts at 0.0
16:26:53 <MatzeB> so no need for an opening balance
16:27:06 <MatzeB> it's my very first bank statement
16:27:11 <joslwah> But if you've got the complete history, why are you trying to reconcile earlier things now?
16:27:35 <MatzeB> why not?
16:27:57 <MatzeB> I thought you do reconciliations to check for input errors...
16:28:06 <MatzeB> maybe I don't really understand what the reconciliation feature is for...
16:28:54 <joslwah> Normally, you enter transactions as you do them, and then when you get your statement you confirm that all the entries are correct, and that the ending balance is correct and then you have reconciled your accounts with the statement.
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16:30:05 <MatzeB> well I gues reconciling old data is unnecessary indeed...
16:30:14 <MatzeB> the balance is right after each transaction
16:30:21 <MatzeB> so I can check if it matches the ones in my statements...
16:30:27 <gbrethen> fell: not sure i understand KaiForce's way?
16:30:53 <KaiForce> gbrethren: it only applies to Windows
16:31:05 <gbrethen> ok
16:31:11 <KaiForce> well, no, it may apply on Linux but the specific fix is Windows
16:31:16 <gbrethen> any other ideas?
16:31:16 <joslwah> Well then, you could just reconcile the lot in one go. If you're sure all the entries are correct.
16:31:22 <joslwah> No point in doing it stepwise.
16:31:41 <KaiForce> basically, the problem is that the Windows DLL for OFX was sending an APPVER that my bank didn't like
16:31:44 <mulicheng> It would be nice if the reconcile dialog had a "select all" or "select none" feature for cleared transactions.
16:32:29 <KaiForce> I modified the DLL with a hex editor and then my bank was happy
16:32:58 <gbrethen> ok, my problem is not in the ofx, it connects with aqbanking and gets a list of my accounts, the problem is gnucash using it to get balance or transactions
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16:39:32 <fell> some things, I don't know, as I was a few month traveling: Which GC Version works with which AqB Version? There were some restrictions,I remember.
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16:41:44 <fell> gbrethen, did you get some ofx.log?
16:43:15 <gbrethen> no
16:43:27 <gbrethen> would it be found in /tmp?
16:44:16 <fell> didn't you look in http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Setting_up_OFXDirectConnect_in_GnuCash_2#Enabling_the_OFX_Log?
16:45:45 <gbrethen> how do I set the environment variable in linux?
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16:46:51 <fell> e. g.: AQOFX_LOG_COMM=1 gnucash <GC options>
16:47:38 <gbrethen> is that done on command line, or in gnucash
16:47:55 <fell> konsole
16:48:46 <fell> or other CLI
16:49:21 <warlord> MatzeB: Once you start reconciling you shouldn't add new transactions prior to that.
16:49:31 <warlord> Reconciliatoin only works going forward.
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20:37:58 <runemaste> are there any other gnucash-like programs? gnucash crashes too often on my computer :(
20:39:06 <warlord> what are you doing when it crashes?
20:39:12 <warlord> (crashes are serious)
20:39:58 <runemaste> anything from posting an invoice to transferring funds
20:40:02 <runemaste> using 2.2.8
20:40:35 <fell> Ah, the invoice tab closing bug?
20:40:38 <runemaste> unfortunatly im using the windows version (which is probably the problem -- my other apps are tied to windows)
20:40:46 <runemaste> im not sure fell
20:42:12 <runemaste> i wish i could use the ubuntu version
20:42:18 <runemaste> or gentoo
20:42:32 <runemaste> or something, but i cant run everything on them :( even under wine :(
20:42:55 <fell> does it usualy happen, if you close an invoice tab?
20:43:26 <runemaste> yeah thats one of them
20:48:15 <fell> Andi5, iis http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Windows#Known_issues still current?
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20:53:46 <fell> runemaster, I am not on windows, but I assume some issues of the list are in svn fixed.
20:56:14 <runemaste> ok, how can i use them on windows? is it already compiled?
21:00:49 <fell> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-devel/2009-January/024610.html could help you
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21:05:32 <warlord> FYI, in case it didn't make it the first time:
21:05:37 <warlord> <warlord> runemaste: there's a known bug in 2.2.8 that causes gnucash to crash when you close an invoice window.
21:09:59 <runemaste> ah. any workarounds?
21:10:51 <runemaste> oh, thanks fell, ill try that
21:11:31 <fell> HTH
21:12:53 <runemaste> i like gnucash, but i still think the UI could be improved to make it more accessable
21:13:14 <runemaste> it took me like 3 days of reading manuals to even begin to understand it
21:15:48 <runemaste> with an easier to understand UI i can see it being well used
21:20:59 <fell> sure, do you have some special suggestion?
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21:22:57 <runemaste> i would say simplify the invoicing system
21:23:28 <runemaste> it took me ages to actually realise you could do invoicing, and half of it i still dont understand
21:24:25 <fell> and alway this search "What was the right regexp?"
21:24:38 <runemaste> its easy for you guys who code it or work on it, but i still dont understand 3/4 of the features
21:24:40 <runemaste> eh?
21:25:22 <fell> search the client, search the invoice ...
21:26:28 <runemaste> btw how do you delete an invoice?
21:26:52 <runemaste> ive got it open, im pressing delete but nothing is happening
21:27:47 <fell> I think, you can only delete unposted invoices.
21:28:19 <runemaste> it is unposted
21:30:17 <fell> and no payments are processed?
21:30:27 <runemaste> nope
21:31:33 <runemaste> and also, if you do multiple transactions on one day, the newer ones always appear at the top... for example if an invoice is posted, then paid for (because it seems to transfer automatically) on the same day, it puts the payment + transfer first (which takes it into the negatives) then the invoice cancels it out - shouldnt it be the other way around?
21:33:47 <fell> sure, but I never saw the reversed sort order. Probably windows specific?
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21:34:12 <runemaste> i dunno. should i screenshot it?
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21:34:29 <warlord> * grumbles *
21:34:36 <warlord> I wish I knew why I kept falling off the net.
21:34:57 <fell> did you pay your provider?
21:35:05 <warlord> My provider pays me..
21:35:12 <warlord> BUt it's the wifi net I keep losing.
21:35:16 <warlord> Not sure if it's them or FC10
21:35:19 <runemaste> ahh
21:35:23 <runemaste> (i hate wifi)
21:36:00 <warlord> runemaste: anyways, the crash bug is fixed in SVN and will be in 2.2.9, but I dont know when that will be out. You could run 2.2.7, or just never close your invoice windows. ;)
21:36:38 <runemaste> warlord, fell sent me a link from the maillist with a compiled svn version
21:36:39 <fell> is it aslo fixed in andis beta?
21:36:49 <warlord> fell: ah, yes, it is.
21:37:05 <warlord> Anyways, I need to run..
21:37:21 <runemaste> thanks warlord, cya
21:38:02 <fell> runemaste, other solutions would be adual boot system or a VM.
21:38:31 <runemaste> vm would work, but that link you sent me works
21:38:48 <fell> fine
21:40:00 <warlord> TTFN
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21:40:26 <runemaste> im enjoying gnucash though ;)
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21:47:21 <fell> Oh, it seems, I need a bed. CU
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